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Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:45 AM

What does Russia have on the orange asshole?

Everyone thinks it’s the pee tape.

I never believed that.

He doesn’t give a shit about that if it exists.

Looking at his history with women, controversies, jealousing hating Obamas, etc, a pee tape wouldn’t leave a mark on him.

However I think I know what Russia does have on him.

Looking at the morons history, what one thing always comes up when he tries to define himself? Money

Remember a story a while back about how trump borrowed a bunch of money from Russia that also had connections to the Russian mob? Yeah, that.

If he goes against Russia in any meaningful way, they will expose him as being broke and sucking on the spigot of Russian money for decades.

THAT’s what I think he fears the most. It would completely collapse his self made bullshit he’s built his image on for decades.

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Reply What does Russia have on the orange asshole? (Original post)
Javaman Jun 28 OP
Lars39 Jun 28 #1
2naSalit Jun 28 #5
GoCubsGo Jun 28 #9
2naSalit Jun 28 #14
bdamomma Jun 29 #49
DENVERPOPS Jul 1 #65
DENVERPOPS Jul 1 #64
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 28 #16
Lars39 Jun 28 #22
louis-t Jun 29 #37
chriscan64 Jul 1 #62
csziggy Jul 1 #71
Buckeye_Democrat Jul 1 #72
PCIntern Thursday #73
csziggy Thursday #78
Celerity Jun 29 #45
Ohiogal Jun 28 #2
NCDem47 Jun 28 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 28 #4
Wounded Bear Jun 29 #39
crickets Jun 29 #46
DENVERPOPS Jul 1 #66
UTUSN Thursday #79
TreasonousBastard Jun 28 #6
bdamomma Jun 29 #50
lindysalsagal Tuesday #81
OAITW r.2.0 Jun 28 #7
DENVERPOPS Jul 1 #70
leftyladyfrommo Jun 28 #8
Phoenix61 Jun 28 #19
leftyladyfrommo Jun 28 #24
denem Jun 29 #53
Andy823 Jun 28 #10
hedda_foil Jun 28 #29
Andy823 Jun 28 #30
bdamomma Jun 29 #52
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Cosmocat Jun 28 #12
highplainsdem Jun 28 #13
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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:46 AM

1. Human trafficking, boinking Invanka, money laundering

Sky's the limit with the dotard.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:52 AM

5. Ding ding ding!

That would be it. The idea of exposing the global human/arms trafficking network via Epstein is what they will go to the worst case scenario to protect. There are too many involved in key positions who are there to protect this secret that is soon to be revealed.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:59 AM

9. Yep. Been saying that from the beginning.

Not to mention that he owes them hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:03 PM

14. Pooty's puppet...

is also his fixer.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:35 PM

49. and those

Congressmen who traveled to Russia on the 4th of July, Putin called them "Putin's Patriots". The Kremlin must be popping champagne they think they got us.................stay tuned.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eight-republicans-spent-july-4-in-russia-where-are-the-fireworks/2018/07/06/beae30be-812e-11e8-b658-4f4d2a1aeef1_story.html

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #49)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:24 PM

65. A Russian friend of mine says

that the Russian People are laughing at HOW EASILY Putin is and has been playing Trump.

Everyday, they watch how Putin's masterminding is succeeding is taking down the U.S. and democracy without firing a single rocket or missile.......

Putin OWNS Trump, McConnell, Graham, and a ton of others..........

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:14 PM

64. Bingo

Putin had been grooming him for years, as well as countless other U.S. Politicians.

Putin did an outstanding job on gathering information for blackmail and extortion just like J. Edgar Hoover did..........

Trump Inc owes Russian oligarch/mobsters/Putin hundreds of millions that have kept him afloat. Not unlike all the money Saudis, Chinese and god knows who else have "loaned" him.........

All the money Trump constantly brags about is borrowed money or money gained by corrupt means......

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:04 PM

16. No telling with that sociopath.

Most banks would no longer let him borrow money after his financial disasters, so it could just be money-borrowing from Russia.

Did he take Ivanka with him to Russia? They could have recorded their private weirdness too, as you wrote.

He's so depraved, I think the prostitutes accusation would easily fall off his back like urine.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:08 PM

22. I think he's been trying to work his way up the foodchain

that the Russian mob has constructed for him.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

37. I think people got it wrong about the pee tape.

They weren't peeing on him, they were peeing on each other with him watching.

Or he was peeing on them.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #37)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:34 PM

62. I thought is was about peeing on the bed that Obama slept in.

Didn't he go out of his way to get the same room?

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:42 PM

71. Remember, Ivanka was on one of the trips and supposedly sat in Putin's chair

One of the "coffee boy" guys told that story.

Here we go:

Trump associate 'arranged for Ivanka to sit in Putin's private chair' during 2015 Moscow trip

Emails show Felix Sater bragged to the Trump Organisation about his influence in Russia

Emily Shugerman
New York @eshugerman
Tuesday 29 August 2017 15:19

One of Donald Trump’s former business partners has claimed he arranged for the President's oldest daughter to sit in Vladimir Putin’s private chair during a 2006 trip to Russia.

The claim comes from Felix Sater, a one-time broker for the Trump Organisation, who pushed heavily for Mr Trump to open a Trump Tower Moscow in 2015.

In an email to Mr Trump’s lawyer about the project, Mr Sater brags about his influence in Moscow, writing: "I arranged for Ivanka to sit in Putins private chair at his desk and office in the Kremlin."

Ms Trump told the New York Times it is “possible” she sat in the Russian President’s chair, though she said she did not recall it. She added that she had never met Mr Putin, and had no involvement in the Moscow tower discussions other than to recommend possible architects.

More: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-putin-chair-ivanka-russia-email-felix-sater-sitting-deal-private-seat-a7918566.html

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Response to csziggy (Reply #71)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:47 PM

72. Ah! So she WAS there, at least.

Thanks for finding that story.

That's probably not what happened over there, but I can't rule it out with the Trump family.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #71)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 08:00 AM

73. Perhaps the phrase "sit in his chair"

Is a euphemism.

As in: “Natalia came back to my house and she sat in my chair the whole night.”

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Response to PCIntern (Reply #73)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 10:33 AM

78. Yes, that thought had occurred to me

Especially with the comments Dolt45 made about his daughter in the past and with his connections to Jeffrey Epstein indicating a preference for young girls.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:49 PM

45. +100000

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:48 AM

2. I think you are correct, Javaman.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:48 AM

3. I think we're going to see this question make its way into public discourse.

Important people in reputable circles will now start to address this.

Good. It's beyond time that it went mainstream.

And yes, they own him due to the money. He's a total fraud. Sure, he owns property, but he still spends in the deficit. The income has never supported the lifestyle.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:51 AM

4. It's got to be money. The Russian oligarchs/mobsters hold his debt

and have been laundering money for him for years.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

39. Correction, Trump has been laundering money for them...

largely through his high end real estate 'businesses.'

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #39)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:00 PM

46. That is definitely a big part of it. nt

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:26 PM

66. Totally Agree WB nc

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 11:31 AM

79. Here's the definitive story: Russian mafia, oligarchs, took over American mafia including SHITLER:

Ever since SHITLER decided to inflict himself on us, it has been inexplicable that he has cozied up to the Russians at every turn, down to a few days ago when he’s sending ventilators to Russia. I’ve been calling him a cartel mobster for a couple of years just based on his behaviors – the LOYALTY thing, the demands for total authority.

So there have been bits here or there about Russians laundering money via condos in his properties, high prices and empty buildings. The mysteries have nagged – the attacks on MUELLER and COMEY, the weird alliances (GUILIANI).

So this lays it out: Not PUTIN, but a Russian mobster/banker, Semion Mogilevich. And GUILIANI + TRUMP is that they have the worst dirt on each other and hate each other but can’t throw each other under the bus. And SHITLER trashes the FBI guys because they know him as an FBI “Confidential Informant” (CI) and can’t expose him, hence why MUELLER hinted at everything but left it all hanging. And why SHITLER took a free hand at smearing MUELLER as "corrupt", because he knew, on the contrary, that MUELLER knew his CI status and could NOT expose SHITLER.

**********QUOTE********

First quote, here, from the O.P.'s Rolling Stone link:

.... But the “modern-day Eliot Ness,” as he was called, hid a deep family secret that a Giuliani confidant says goes a long way to explain why his self-worth has wavered throughout his life. Rudy’s father, Harold, was a neighborhood tough who did time in New York’s Sing Sing prison for armed robbery. This underworld background, revealed in muckraking journalist Wayne Barrett’s biography Rudy!, might help explain the chip Giuliani has carried on his shoulder throughout his career.

... Giuliani joined 10,000 off-duty police officers in a protest that boiled over with bursts of racism aimed at the city’s first black mayor. But harnessing outer-borough anger at Manhattan liberals was a key to victory that, in retrospect, was an ominous preview of the resentments that Trump would later stoke on a national scale. ....


Second quote, from previous DU threads:

https://gregolear.substack.com/p/bloody-mob-sht-an-interview-with
Bloody Mob Sh*t: An Interview with Lincoln's Bible
We talk Trump, Mogilevich, Epstein, Giuliani, Fred Trump, Roy Cohn, and more.
(by) Greg Olear

.... LB (Lincoln's Bible) : ... Fred (Trump), ... all (his construction projects) were done with known mafia partners, in Genovese-controlled territory, and eventually with a fully Genovese-owned construction company (HRH Construction). ....

... Remember donald’s quote, “Even my father, he said, you don’t want to go to Manhattan. That’s not our territory?” That’s because Manhattan, for construction, was Gambino territory. They controlled the concrete and unions. And Fred was a very loyal, shrewd front for the Genovese. To get his idiot, greedy kid into Manhattan, Fred and Roy Cohn had to get those two mob bosses to agree on a joint venture. ....

GO (Greg OLEAR) : Rudy Giuliani, whose father was a lesser mobster, built his reputation prosecuting Italian mobsters. In the process, he made it easier for the Russians to move in. ... ....

LB: Here’s the thing…and it’s NYC mob gossip, but I trust the source. Rudy and donald hate each other. Capital “H” hate. They both have dirt on one another. And, for both, it’s as bad as it gets. Cocaine, corruption, and bloody mob shit. So they’re stuck together. Don’t look for one to turn on the other. Unless drugs/alcohol/dementia takes over, and they burn each other down as they internally crumble. ....

GO: ... We know he (Jeffrey EPSTEIN) was associated with the Russian mafiya, through his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert, was business partners with Semion Mogilevich, head of the Vor. ...

LB: Epstein laundered money for global arms dealers. ... ....

*****************

http://www.citjourno.org/mission
Citizen Journalists Consortium
POKE THE BEAR
(by) Lincoln's Bible

.... ... There is a man who controls our President. And his name is not Vladimir Putin. ....

... the most brilliant, dangerous, powerful, criminal mastermind the world has ever seen. This is not hyperbole. This is SEMION MOGILEVICH. ....

... Mogilevich, the "Boss of Bosses," is also known in Russia and to international intelligence agencies as Don Semyon, “The Brainy Don.” ....

... The Soviet Union collapsed. In the vacuum of leadership – of policy – of governmental order, a few hungry souls made a mad grab for state resources. They were the original seven oligarchs, called “The Magnificient Seven.” And they were all bankers. One of these first seven bankers, Mikhail Fridman – the founder of ALFABANK, is Semion Mogilevich’s partner. ... ....

... Putin was used to help execute Semion’s strategy for turning Russia into a Mafiya State. ... ....

... SEMION TRADES IN NUCLEAR MATERIAL AND ARMS WITH IRAN ... ....

... This aspect of Semion’s criminal enterprise is one thing (of many) the Iran Deal sought to eliminate. ... ....

... the Russian Mafiya’s infiltration of America. ... the Russian take-over of America’s mafia crime families, the “Five Families,” ... ....

... the mobster Vyacheslov Ivankov set him off on Semion’s trail. Ivankov was Semion’s lieutenant, sent to America to set up operations. If you recognize his name, it’s because Ivankov is the mobster who landed in a condo in Trump Tower, hid out regularly at Trump Taj Mahal, and was eventually caught by the FBI’s organized crime unit. ... ....

... Mogilevich’s crime syndicate is also THE case that puts the history of Donald Trump’s business “partnerships” into context. It explains why the #TrumpRussia investigation ... shifted from counter-intelligence to CRIMINAL. ...

It also answers what lurks beneath Trump’s flailing tweets, firing of Comey, and strategic undermining of the integrity of our independent press. ... ....

... The equation for finding the perfect mark is simple: 1) identify a businessman who has what you need – like a vehicle to wash your blood money, + 2) find their weak spot, and + 3) squeeze. ....

In the United States, there was one businessman at the top of Don Semyon’s list. One who was the easiest mark and could reap the greatest return. One who was sheltering Mogilevich's Men. One who was already in business with the American mafia, when "the" RUSSIAN MOB rolled over them all. ....

And thanks to Fred Trump, Roy Cohn, and the “Five Families” of American mafia, the United States already had a perfect front for Mogilevich to take. A man – a brand, that could wash the devil’s blood money clean. ....

... Semion Mogilevich took over American mafia’s territory, he took Donald Trump with it. ....

... Semion Mogilevich took over his second brand: TRUMP ENTERPRISES. ....

*************


https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1150239448649866&id=100009914652603
(by) Greg OLEAR Facebook page

.... A confidential informant, or “CI,” is a mole run by law enforcement within a criminal enterprise. Not a “rat,” whose treachery is well known to his comrades, but a craftier, more duplicitous breed of rodent. Crimes committed by the CI are overlooked, or allowed to continue unabated, in exchange for good intelligence—“treasure,” as Control calls it in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. ....

The only way to know for sure if Donald John Trump is a Confidential Informant is if he admits it himself (unlikely), or if law enforcement comes forward (illegal). But the circumstantial evidence is compelling. The pattern is: 1) Trump deals with mobsters as usual; 2) Law enforcement begins investigating Trump; 3) Mobsters suddenly get busted, while 4) investigation into Trump is scuttled. This happened three times that we know about. I’m not counting the first known instance of Trump providing information to prosecutors, concerning Cody and concrete, in the late 70s: ... ....

... (Trump in) 1995? Failing tremendously. That was the year when he declared a loss of an unfathomable $916 million on his tax returns. It was also at this time that Trump Tower became a sort of Moscow on Fifth Avenue, with any number of Russian mobsters scooping up apartments—an arrangement that began in 1984, when the Russian mobster David Bogatin purchased five condos for $6 million. Trump Tower was one of just two buildings in all of New York City that allowed units to be purchased by shell companies. Why did Trump, virtually alone among New Yorkers, allow these fishy deals?

As the indefatigable Craig Unger writes in the Washington Post, the shady Bogatin deal began a 35-year relationship between Trump and Russian organized crime. Mind you, this was a period during which the disintegration of the Soviet Union had opened a fire-hose-like torrent of hundreds of billions of dollars in flight capital from oligarchs, wealthy apparatchiks and mobsters in Russia and its satellites. And who better to launder so much money for the Russians than Trump — selling them multimillion-dollar condos at top dollar, with little or no apparent scrutiny of who was buying them. ....

... what made Trump’s attacks on Mueller so ironic. He impugned the former FBI director as corrupt, while depending on his incorruptibility to not reveal his (alleged) CI status. ....

Notes
This piece was written under the expert guidance of Lincoln’s Bible. If you don’t already do so, please follow her on Twitter, and check out her own mafiya reporting at Citjourno.

I encourage everyone to read the State of New Jersey Department of Gaming Enforcement investigation report on the allegations against Donald John Trump in the Wayne Barrett book Trump: The Deals and the Downfall.
The late Bob Levinson was the FBI’s best Russian mob fighter. His Ivankov testimony is also essential reading.

— Greg Olear, Substack

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:54 AM

6. I thought it's been obvious all along that Deutsche Bank ws in the laundry business and...

was feeding Russian mob money ever since real banks stopped doing business with him.

And, he's been desperate to build hotels in Moscow and Kiev, which would be financed by the same fine fellows.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #50)

Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:49 AM

81. Omg. I had never seen that guardian article.

This is global corruption. It's probably insurmountable.

Makes me long for the simple warring days of the 1200's.

At least you knew who your enemies were, and you could hear and see them coming.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:56 AM

7. Putin and Co. owns him.

Everything he does benefits Russian interests. Hell, his son admitted as much - Trump Inc. was highly leveraged with Russian money. His financial entanglements will be eventually exposed and the reality of his treason will become evident.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:39 PM

70. Not only the Russians

Remember last year when Jared needed 150 million for a mortgage payment on one of his fiascos, and he went to visit the Saudis??????
It is said that he took U.S. intelligence on the Saudis that named the people in the Saudi Government who were not 100% loyal to the top Saudis. He came back with 150 million, and the Top Saudis beheaded many in their government........

And what about McConnell? His wife's parents are oligarchs in China, and reportedly channelled hundreds of millions thru their "donations" to the NRA then to Mitch and a bunch of other U.S. RepubliCON senators in much the same way as the "Russian" NRA did using that VAMP female spy.....

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:58 AM

8. I think it's a huge amount of money.

And the fear that he will fall out of a 17 story window if he doesn't do what he is told. And his family is probably in danger, too.

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Response to leftyladyfrommo (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:05 PM

19. This! His wallet and his daughter. The only

two things he cares about. The first gives him power and the second gives him love.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:09 PM

24. I don't know about the love.

I am the child of a narcissist. I have no idea what love is. I care about people. I really care about my dogs abd my friends. But I don't know what love is.

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Response to leftyladyfrommo (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:50 PM

53. :(

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:00 PM

10. The name Jeffrey Epstein

comes to my mind. Nobody knew where he got all his money, but Russia also comes to mind, along with blackmail.

Also who has the tapes Epstein made of all the important people who did terrible things at Epstein's estates?

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:00 PM

29. I've never thought of that but it makes a great deal of sense.

What if Epstein, who recorded high ranking men with underage girls for many years, was really a Russian plant?

Doesn't mean that he was. It's just speculation, but ....

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:22 PM

30. That would explain

where his money was coming from.

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:49 PM

52. well,

they managed to keep his mouth shut.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:01 PM

11. He's being coerced away from what exactly?

He's never displayed any principle or loyalty to anything or anyone other than himself and money.

I'm sure they have dirt on him and sure they may have threatened him.

But it's not like he was a loyal, moral, principled American they had to seriously threaten to get him to turn. I'm quite sure he went to the dark side eagerly.

They could have promised him five dollars and a pat on the head and he'd be in.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:01 PM

12. They dont "have something on him"

he has long standing business mostly illegal with them. But what he does relative to russia is notbubder duress.

He is a massively sick and depraved person, sees how corrupt and evil Putin is and wants to be like him. And, pathetically sucks up to him like the dimwitted toady he is.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:02 PM

13. Putin owns him, the same way he owns Russian oligarchs.

Putin has given Trump money and favors, and you can bet he has plenty of damaging info on Trump, including damning videos, even if there isn't a pee tape.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:03 PM

15. It could be both.

I don't know about a pee tape, but it does seem possible that Russian intelligence bugged his room when he was there and caught some kind of perverted sexual activity.

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Response to Flaleftist (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:41 PM

41. On that end...

Considering the time period and with well known recordings of foreigners while in anywhere in Russia, thinking around the time of his pageants, I am sure that there's a video involving a minor. Coupled with the financial assistance that he cannot receive from anywhere else.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:04 PM

17. Everything. ...nt

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:05 PM

18. I would extend the question to "What does Russia have on the GOP"?

I think its influence on the entire party is evident in the immense gauntlet they've thrown up to protect Trump.

I think dirty Russian oligarch money traveled to the Republican Party via the NRA and other sources. They all know about it. They all accepted the dirty money. If one goes down, they ALL go down. Hence the obvious right wing conspiracy.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:53 PM

54. I believe

the GOP all had their hands out for the big payola. McConnell, Graham and many more are involved.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:07 PM

20. I think Putin's intel agencies have probably 40+ years of complete backstory on Dump

Last edited Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Money laundering
Trafficking girls
Shady land deals
Sex on tape
Tax evasion proof
Maybe drug trafficking
Hacked compromising emails
Kushner info
Other family member info
Besmirching base on tape
Compromising info since election

Dump probably has all of this on multiple people in his orbit, but he would only use this for his own blackmail operations. Putin and other bad actors have probably traded blackmail info with Dump since day one.

Edit... and I think the mobsters are the monkey on Trumps back.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:07 PM

21. Receipts.

Indisputable receipts

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:08 PM

23. Cant be money, everyone knows he is broke

Look to the projections of the Q bots.
The Russians have already told us.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:12 PM

25. I think part of it is money.

But, there is probably a lot that’s not money.
I think it’s a basic, “do this, or else”.
I’m pretty sure it’s life or death for him and Ivanka.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:14 PM

26. Russia either own or have a major interest in trump's golf courses

I believe that Russia either financed or actually own majority interests in trump's golf courses and/or guaranteed trump's bank borrowings

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:23 PM

27. I also think they paid him to use Deripaska steel for the wall, explaining the obsession.

We know he doesn't give a fuck about his base, his campaigning only in their areas and risking their lives shows his total lack of concern. What he cares about is himself and his money and he changed the design so thst only Deripaska steel could be used. Think PUtin is retiring some of the drumpf loans & probably paying him a premium as well. That's why assmouth loves him so much and will go to great lengths to deny this treachery.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:35 PM

28. It is all about his Russian Mob Ties

in NYC. His Modeling Agency was a Out Call Service and Melania was one of his Escorts.

Understand he was one of the largest Coke Dealers in Manhattan for years and his Pal Epstein and Pecker were up to their eye balls in this operation.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #28)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:26 PM

33. Yes, the whole New York operations are a hotbed of corruption.

These people weren’t angels to say the least and I think the cocaine info is relevant. I would guess many a contact were flipped by FBI by using drug possession/sales as leverage. I think the Grand Jury materials would show some of that. I think the crimes go high and wide in their social circles and Epstein and Pecker know/knew a lot like you say.

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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:32 PM

34. Trumps Buddy Nader said

two years ago,Donald will be joining him in Prison. And Nader was a FBI snitch.

The names we have not heard for more than a year are,Broidy,or Barrick Donnies Money Guys. Seventy five million Bribe to Sessions,disappeared,Barrick and Campaign Money laundering. Barrick is Colony Capital one of the shadiest Mortgage and Lending operators on the planet.






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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 10:00 PM

55. tRump

is bad to the bone. I learned something new about him and coke dealing. I was not aware of that.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:26 PM

31. Nothing

Oh, maybe Putin has some damaging videos or something.

However, Trump is doing what he wants. He is not acting out of fear, but out of his sense that he has the right to do what he does.

Putin doesn't need to do anything to Trump. Trump believes in Putin and is loyal.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:27 PM

32. The size of galoshes he wears.

And a ready supply of concrete.

He knows what sort of people he's dealing with. He's dealt with them all his life.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:36 PM

35. Several billion dollars-worth of debt which Trump can't repay monetarily.

n/t

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:38 PM

36. Yep, they've got Trump completely by the balls.

They probably picked Trump as a good vehicle. Putin's a multi-billionaire gang boss. He would definitely steal a hundred million extra from the Russian people to buy himself a potential future presidential candidate. And Trump probably encouraged the sale because he needed the money.

I'm not sure Trump ever intended to win though...that was just bonus for Putin that he will hopefully live to regret.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:22 AM

38. Sometimes, blackmail doesn't work.

Sometimes, blackmail doesn't work.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

40. Documents on all his BS finances and how beholden he is to foreign corporations.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:31 PM

42. The pee pee tapes probably exist, but....

....you can always deny they aren't real with digital manipulating we have today.

However, you can't go Bankruptcy liquidation with a Russian Bank. They do collect, one way or another. Sure, a US court may say the debt is gone...but, how do you enforce that against a loan shark?

And here's the other problem, since we have financial sanctions on Russia....when Trump defaults, they take control of the properties...

How is that going to work?

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:38 PM

43. It's so obvious he's their tool that it almost doesn't matter what the specifics are...though

I hope we find out someday. This country, if sane and healthy, would have rejected him in 2016 and many times since just based on the circumstantial and clear possibility that he's not acting in our best interests. What more do we/they need?

Because we don't have healthy public discourse and because of the cultism that has emerged (and possibly because of the potential destruction of the gop) I'm not sure it would matter to his followers or to the gop elected officials or fellow oligarchs who decided long ago to do whatever it takes to protect him. They see a way through this and are sticking to the game plan. If they haven't thrown him under the bus yet they won't now...they have to get to the election.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:46 PM

44. I agree with you.

I think he's probably not only broke, but heavily indebted to Putin and the Russian mob. If he can't be of any use to them and he can't make good on his loans, he's in deep shit.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:22 PM

47. I think its as simple as the fact that Trump wishes he had Putin's power.

Putin operates with NO constraints. He has people killed. Does what he wants. Shuts down newspapers. Trump alwasy admired mob bosses; fancied himself as one. So Putin is the ultimate mob boss.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:24 PM

48. Yeah, MONEY. Well done, Javaman!

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:48 PM

51. He owes them very large sums of money he doesn't have.

Its simple. He's long had a relationship laundering money through his properties in NYC. No legit bank in the world would touch him, so only shady banks with Russian ties have been funding him prior to 2016. And he's not nearly as rich as he says, that's why he hides his taxes. Its all about money, no pee tapes or other perversions, its money.

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Response to apnu (Reply #51)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 10:07 PM

56. Yes that's true, but the Russians made Chump rich

If that's all it is, then they only have power over Chump as long as they can blackmail him.

We've been talking about this for the last 4 years. There has to be something more, because the money angle isn't enough to get him impeached. It's not enough to get him out of office. There has to be something really hideous, like murder, incest, pedophilia stuff, something so awful that even Chump realizes he's DONE if it ever gets out.

Just sayin'


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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #56)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 10:21 PM

57. I think it just money...

Money and Trump's ego, and his yearning to be in the club.

I think Trump has less money than he says. In the rich world, if you say you have a billion, you better live like you do, because one thing they all hate is liar about wealth. Trump's always hung out at the fringe of the money club in Manhattan. Old money knows he's trash. New money knows he's a con-man. The only thing that keeps Trump going is his fantasy that he's both as rich as he says and that he believes "they" accept him.

He's a liar. We all know that, but the one person he can always trust to believe his lies is himself. I genuinely think he believes the bullshit he says. Look how often he changes his story on any given topic with a straight face! He is both the con and the mark.

If his peers find out that he's not even close to a billion or more, and he's in deep to the Russians? His little social life lie pops and Trump's immaturity can't handle it.

So yeah, its money, and the appearance of money. And how Trump convinces himself he's part of the club.

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Response to apnu (Reply #51)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 08:35 AM

76. yes THIS. And it's a sore spot with me

no reputable bank would lend trumpie a dime due to huge risk. And it's been this way for quite some time. It's why he resorts to shady sources like Deutsche Bank. This needed to be highlighted during the campaign, as well as his complete lack of a health care plan to replace Obamacare.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2020, 10:43 PM

58. If Trump's campaign was colluding and conspiring with the Russians, which it seems clear they were,

then I am betting that Putin made sure to get those interactions on tape.


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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:16 PM

59. Promissory notes

in the billions.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:27 PM

60. This makes trump out to be a victim, when actually he is a willing participant

Trump has said out loud that he admires Putin, Xi, Erdogan, Orban, Duterte and their policies. He wants to be like them, and that is the direction he is taking this country.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:29 PM

61. Scenario

I think Javaman is wrong about the PP tapes.
I'm not wanting to post anything that would offend
but here is a plausible scenario. The Steele dossier held
that Trump watched individuals urinating on the bed that
President Obama and the First Lady slept in at a hotel in Russia.
My guess is these individuals were underage girls. This fits in with
the allegations about Trump's ties to the late Jeff Epstein.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:40 PM

63. 3 billion dollars in debt.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:27 PM

67. Evidence of money laundering . . . they have the books n/t

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:28 PM

68. The "P" stands for pedophilia tape. They show #Traitor severely abusing/beating young Russian girls

One report says the "p"-tapes include a snuff tape

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:29 PM

69. we have. een trying to find out for years

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 08:12 AM

74. It's something.

How do they manage to keep it concealed?

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 08:28 AM

75. "P-tape" means Pedophile Tape

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 08:39 AM

77. Definitely money. He's proud of his perversions.

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Response to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 11:32 AM

80. They own him because

he owes them.

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