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OMG another grocery store tantrum over a mask (Original Post) mainer Jun 2020 OP
first one TJs in N Holly. CA. Second one? HELL! WTF is wrong w/people? CurtEastPoint Jun 2020 #1
I couldn't tell you, but that 2nd one should be charged with destruction of property. Arkansas Granny Jun 2020 #6
THAT stunt calls for law enforcement to step in for that reason. PLUS ban her ass. CurtEastPoint Jun 2020 #13
Absolutely. Charges for her. pandr32 Jun 2020 #24
The tweet originator said it occurred in Dallas. n/t KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #46
Isn't she committing a crime? That's vandalism, at least, isn't it? rainin Jun 2020 #2
Yes, and disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct--I'm sure there are other possible charges. nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #21
That looks like vandalism, especially the 2nd one. Mariana Jun 2020 #3
California. Tipperary Jun 2020 #4
She scripted it Sympthsical Jun 2020 #5
I think I will enjoy the each shit factor of seeing more of these idiots forced to wear masks. brewens Jun 2020 #7
Unbelievable TEB Jun 2020 #8
I don't get it. if masks are stupid, wimpy, or Communist, then why does Drumpf require everyone in progree Jun 2020 #9
I think it's all part of the tRump effect. StarryNite Jun 2020 #10
They know they're losing wryter2000 Jun 2020 #11
These people are nuts. The current situation has just brought out Grammy23 Jun 2020 #12
This is a good response to these people, besides the ADA requiring "reasonable accommodations" TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #14
those are both great! Thanks. stillcool Jun 2020 #18
This is excellent! smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #22
I think I am a little in love with Emily... TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #23
My sister too, from contact smoke from working as a singer. Try elecampane to clear the lungs. TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 #27
Is it wrong for me to not care if these people just died before they kill someone else? dem4decades Jun 2020 #15
She has a breathing problem? She certainly has a lot of hot air. nt doc03 Jun 2020 #16
I guess being part of the stillcool Jun 2020 #17
I'm Surprised They Even Got In The Store Me. Jun 2020 #19
Long Island, too. And if you forget (I admit I do, sometimes) customers will remind you... TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #26
Some Of The Stores In My Neighborhood Even Want You To Wear Gloves Me. Jun 2020 #29
Gloves were a thing for a while, but I think they tired of dealing with them... TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #31
For THe Moment Me. Jun 2020 #32
TP is a strange story-- I don't remember all of the details, but when it first became a thing I... TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #37
Well That Makes Sense Me. Jun 2020 #39
I'm glad to see gloves be "not a thing". I got tired of seeing ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #36
I suspect that's why they're not a thing any more. People are pigs and glovess all over the place... TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #38
Both of those women had masks csziggy Jun 2020 #35
Both of them wore a mask to enter. Blue_true Jun 2020 #47
Some One Will Identify Her Me. Jun 2020 #49
And she loses her job most likely. And may get kicked out of any rental. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #51
Can she get kicked out of a rental? ish't there a moratorium/amnesty about eviction? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #54
Rental contracts, whether personal or business, have "behavior" clauses. Blue_true Jun 2020 #57
She should be arrested and charged for that. nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #20
The second one could have been arrested. guillaumeb Jun 2020 #25
She likely will be arrested if the store press charges (it should). Blue_true Jun 2020 #48
I agree. guillaumeb Jun 2020 #55
These people are mentally ill. Sane people don't act like leftyladyfrommo Jun 2020 #28
No, she is not mentally ill. marie999 Jun 2020 #33
This is also how some people with personality disorders behave womanofthehills Jun 2020 #44
There is just so much involved with this. marie999 Jun 2020 #45
She is not a child. She shopped with the mask on, got to the register and caused a scene, Blue_true Jun 2020 #50
I don't understand these tantrums Sanity Claws Jun 2020 #30
They watch their president... SergeStorms Jun 2020 #56
The first Karen staged her tantrum csziggy Jun 2020 #34
the 2 images ... Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #40
Thanks - I'll try to remember for the future csziggy Jun 2020 #41
Welcome Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #43
I give up. Initech Jun 2020 #42
That 2nd one needs a visit with the judicial system. KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #52
There are issues with mental illness in this country Renew Deal Jun 2020 #53

Arkansas Granny

(31,504 posts)
6. I couldn't tell you, but that 2nd one should be charged with destruction of property.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jun 2020

Some of the items she threw on the floor can't be put back on the shelves for sale.

tblue37

(65,207 posts)
21. Yes, and disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct--I'm sure there are other possible charges. nt
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

Sympthsical

(9,022 posts)
5. She scripted it
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jun 2020

There's another thread with facebook posts by someone was there. Apparently she had a mask on in the parking lot, took it off upon entering the store, and then started trying to provoke people.

Some people want attention, even if it's terrible attention.

brewens

(13,522 posts)
7. I think I will enjoy the each shit factor of seeing more of these idiots forced to wear masks.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jun 2020

I'm in Idaho, so we'll be about the last to see mandatory masks, but it may be coming. I have several FB friends that say they will never wear one. They should have kept their mouths shut about that. If I see them in a store with one on, I'm getting a pic, scrolling through their feed and posting it!

progree

(10,884 posts)
9. I don't get it. if masks are stupid, wimpy, or Communist, then why does Drumpf require everyone in
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jun 2020

the West Wing to wear one?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/white-house-issues-memo-requiring-staff-to-wear-masks-in-west-wing.html

White House issues memo requiring staff to wear masks in West Wing, CNBC, 5/11/20
... The directive from the White House management office was laid out in a memo to staffers Monday afternoon, NBC reported. ... The memo also asked staff members to avoid visiting the West Wing, where the Oval Office is located, unless it is necessary, the sources told NBC.

Something to keep in mind when some fuckhead harasses you about wearing a mask -- if they're so ineffective or the Covid19 is just a hoax, or if only wimps or Maoists wear them, then why does your fearless leader require everyone near him to wear a mask? Why is he wimpifying his staff -- and by extension himself?

StarryNite

(9,423 posts)
10. I think it's all part of the tRump effect.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jun 2020

BULLYING
The Trump Effect: An Update
The toxicity is spreading.
Posted Jan 30, 2018


Last spring we wrote a two-part post about “The Trump Effect,” which was originally defined as an increase in bullying in schools caused by the rhetoric Donald Trump used during his presidential campaign. Now, a year into Mr. Trump’s presidency, the definition of The Trump Effect has expanded to include religious and racial bullying by adults as well as: misogyny, sexual assault, and other socially unacceptable behaviors.

To be clear, bullying is not a partisan issue; it is a behavior described as the use of power through strength or influence to intimidate another. It is practiced not only by humans, but by primates and other mammals. In the animal kingdom, where pecking order is an important aspect of survival, bullying can lead to shunning, beatings, expulsion from a troop of chimpanzees or congress of baboons, and ultimately even death of the victim. Unfortunately, the same behavior and its varying outcomes are also too true of humans.

However, we humans are more complex thinkers than our primate friends. For instance, we've taken an aspect of the pecking order and devised a complicated system of governance that includes a full spectrum of beliefs and ways of thinking that have been squeezed into two major political parties (Republican versus Democrat.) After 240 years since the birth of America as a unified nation, we find ourselves at a crossroads of divisiveness that hasn’t been experienced in decades, if not for centuries. One of the most alarming facets of our current political climate is how partisan ideologies, when coupled with a tendency to bully, can lead to extremely harmful bullying.

[link:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-time-cure/201801/the-trump-effect-update|

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
12. These people are nuts. The current situation has just brought out
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jun 2020

the worst in them. They have been here all along. They just are not tolerating the situation very well. In fact, they feel fully entitled to throw a tantrum and the rest of us can just STFU. This won’t end well because sooner or later they’ll pull that sh*t in the wrong place with another equally nutty shopper.

You just can’t make this sh*t up. What happened to we’re all in this together?

By the way, the one who said her doctor would not let her wear a mask didn’t appear to have a breathing problem even as she screamed and yelled at the top of her lungs. She might have gotten a bit more sympathy from bystanders had she kept her cool while explaining her case.

TheBlackAdder

(28,154 posts)
14. This is a good response to these people, besides the ADA requiring "reasonable accommodations"
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:25 PM
Jun 2020

.

Yep, and those reasonable accommodations were put forth by Republicans to protect business costs and lawsuits.

Trader Joe's is being reasonable by asking patrons to wear a mask. Don't wear a mask, don't shop here.





.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
23. I think I am a little in love with Emily...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:47 PM
Jun 2020

My lungs have been damaged from 40 years of three packs a day and pneumonia earlier this year.
COPD, too.

I manage 95-97 on the oxygen meter with a mask. Not perfect, but it keeps me going.

Up your ass, Karen.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
17. I guess being part of the
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jun 2020

master race blows up the ego. The self-righteous arrogance is inbred. My God, I don't think I like white people.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
19. I'm Surprised They Even Got In The Store
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jun 2020

Here in NYC you wouldn't be able to. They have people posted to watch as everyone goes in and seniors and first responders go in first.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
26. Long Island, too. And if you forget (I admit I do, sometimes) customers will remind you...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jun 2020

Cuomo did a great job-- it's called leadership. Something Trump knows nothing about.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
29. Some Of The Stores In My Neighborhood Even Want You To Wear Gloves
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:06 PM
Jun 2020

and leave a box outside by the door so you can help yourself.

Also, isn't it the law in Ca. that you have to wear a mask?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
31. Gloves were a thing for a while, but I think they tired of dealing with them...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jun 2020

There are still a lot of sanitizers, though, although they are slowing down, too.

May have something to do with how they have so much for sale now.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
37. TP is a strange story-- I don't remember all of the details, but when it first became a thing I...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jun 2020

did some research.

There are only so many manufacturers and the business is very low margin, so if anything causes burps, the whole mess can fail, as it did.

There are two TP manufacturing chains-- one for us and one for commercial venues. We get the small rolls and KMart bathrooms get the large industrial rolls. If one small roll factory burns down and interrupts production, the large roll factories can't make up the difference, and vice versa.

That's kind of what happened a few months ago, with something interfering with the wood chips they make paper from. Now that that has pretty much been solved, they can play with prices.

Pure supply and demand now-- people are still overbuying, so the price goes up.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
39. Well That Makes Sense
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jun 2020

I won't hoard if there's a shortage but I will try for a couple of weeks. We'll see. I'm embarrassed to say what I had to pay at the beginning of the rise here. I never in my life thought I'd pay anything close to that. It's funny what has been hard to find at times...canned peaches are currently pretty scarce plus that tall container of TJ's sea salt. It's been out for 2 months and they say they may have it by July 13. Not like anyone is starving for salt and peaches. It just amuses me to see what goes missing and I try to figure why.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,314 posts)
36. I'm glad to see gloves be "not a thing". I got tired of seeing ...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jun 2020

... gloves littering the streets, parking lots. Apparently, they're not very good for sewer systems, too.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
38. I suspect that's why they're not a thing any more. People are pigs and glovess all over the place...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jun 2020

was getting out of hand.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
35. Both of those women had masks
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jun 2020

The first video, a witness said she wore one while waiting in line and until she got into the store. See my post for the deatils.

The second video, you can see the mask in her hand with her cell phone. She probably did the same thing as the first.

Last week at Costco, there were people at the door enforcing their requirement for masks. But even so, I saw a couple (probably in their 30s) not wearing masks as they shopped. It's hard for the stores to patrol every aisle if people are that willfully stupid.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
47. Both of them wore a mask to enter.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:32 PM
Jun 2020

The one in the lower video even shopped with a mask on, then took it off at the register and refuse to put it back on.

The second one should be arrested for destruction of property and disturbing the peace. The police will have her mask with her DNA in it and there is the video.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,314 posts)
54. Can she get kicked out of a rental? ish't there a moratorium/amnesty about eviction?
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:18 AM
Jun 2020

Or is that just for financial reasons?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
57. Rental contracts, whether personal or business, have "behavior" clauses.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

The video shows that she has an anger problem and is destructive. Rentals can be refused to a person who potentially can damage property.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
48. She likely will be arrested if the store press charges (it should).
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jun 2020

She destroyed property and disturbed the peace.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,861 posts)
28. These people are mentally ill. Sane people don't act like
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jun 2020

that. They should have a great big bouncer at the door to stop people refusing to wear a mask before they ever get in the store.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
33. No, she is not mentally ill.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jun 2020

I don't know anything about psychiatry, but I think that people are trying to figure out what is happening. This pandemic is too big a thing for them to wrap their heads around. It's almost like a child who receives a gift they want but is too young to understand what to do with it. They are lost and acting out. Without guidance from the government, this will continue to get worse. I have noticed that my posts are getting more and more (sorry, I can't think of the right words) picture me sitting in front of my compute with my right arm swinging up and back trying to find the right words.

womanofthehills

(8,647 posts)
44. This is also how some people with personality disorders behave
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:26 PM
Jun 2020

They probably have been flipping out their whole lives. Like Trump, everything revolves around them.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
45. There is just so much involved with this.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jun 2020

A traitor for a president, a pandemic without any leadership, an economy without any leadership, and no end in sight.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
50. She is not a child. She shopped with the mask on, got to the register and caused a scene,
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:37 PM
Jun 2020

as well as destroy property and create a hazard for other shoppers. She knew what she was doing. So now, she gets arrested, likely will lose her job and get kicked out of any place that she rents.

Sanity Claws

(21,834 posts)
30. I don't understand these tantrums
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jun 2020

1. Where did people get the idea that it is acceptable to act in public like that? Fox News?

2. If you don't like a business's policies you should boycott it. I boycott Walmart and several other places because I don't want to give them a dime of my money. It doesn't make any sense to try to patronize a place which has policies that are fundamentally different from yours.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
34. The first Karen staged her tantrum
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jun 2020



Payman Benz

Someone posted this about this situation. Big shock.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbiKFKsUcAIpGW-?format=jpg


ETA - Shoot, the image of the message won't show.
Synopsis: The woman stood in line with a mask on for 30 mins. to get into the store. She then took her mask off, wandered around with her basket, putting no items into it, but "getting up in people's faces, getting as close as possible, waiting for someone to inevitably tell her to put her mask back on. And when a dude finally did - which didn't take long because she was being super aggressive - she lost it."

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
41. Thanks - I'll try to remember for the future
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jun 2020

Though I seldom visit Twitter other than to chase down info linked here at DU.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,228 posts)
43. Welcome
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:02 PM
Jun 2020

I didn't visit twitter; just right-clicked on the tweet you posted, selected 'view file', and copied, edited, and pasted the url for each image.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
52. That 2nd one needs a visit with the judicial system.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jun 2020

1. To pay restitution for the floor food.

2. Some probation and multiple psych evaluations to be sure she is only an asshole and not actually ill.

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