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applegrove

(118,654 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:13 PM Jun 2020

Some GOP Operatives Think Trump Could Drop Out

Some GOP Operatives Think Trump Could Drop Out

June 28, 2020 at 4:56 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 49 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/06/28/some-gop-operatives-think-trump-could-drop-out/

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GOP operatives are for the first time raising the possibility that Donald Trump could drop out of the race if his poll numbers don’t rebound, Fox Business reports.

One “major player” described Trump’s current psyche as “fragile.”

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Some GOP Operatives Think Trump Could Drop Out (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2020 OP
Not likely as Kushner and others close to him are trying to make lucrative deals while they can wishstar Jun 2020 #1
Your last four words are MONEY leftieNanner Jun 2020 #3
I've pooh poohed this in the past, but Pence's appearance trying to act normal and wearing a Vinca Jun 2020 #2
But if he resigns, he still can't get out from under the New York indictments leftieNanner Jun 2020 #5
There is always Russia. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #9
He could also go to Ukraine leftieNanner Jun 2020 #10
I'm sure Vlad has a nice penthouse apartment waiting for him. Girard442 Jun 2020 #12
We can only hope. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #13
The Best penthouse... JHB Jun 2020 #25
i don't think that's gonig to happen......... Takket Jun 2020 #23
and that's a problem demtenjeep Jun 2020 #27
no problem Takket Jun 2020 #28
Indictments for what? former9thward Jun 2020 #24
His taxes have been subpoenaed leftieNanner Jun 2020 #26
His taxes have been in the hands of the IRS and the New York state IRS for decades. former9thward Jun 2020 #32
State crimes are going to be a pain in the ass to prosecute. Xolodno Jun 2020 #36
Trump's poll numbers will go down...because of today's news....... Stuart G Jun 2020 #4
Sounds Like An Okey-Doke ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #6
One "major player" described Trump's current psyche as "fragile." Marie Marie Jun 2020 #7
Polls numbers - WTF . . . Iliyah Jun 2020 #8
Under your #5. ... Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #11
When trump fails, as he always does - he goes completely bust - bankrupt janterry Jun 2020 #14
Not only that KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #33
Sorry but this is a replay of 2016. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #15
He didn't win. James Comey won it for him. (eom) StevieM Jun 2020 #37
It doesn't matter. He's president. Drunken Irishman Jun 2020 #40
I don't see it Poiuyt Jun 2020 #16
Let him stay in and take the asswhipping he's gonna get in Nov. brush Jun 2020 #17
FWIW some clairvoyants and card readers also see this possibility. fierywoman Jun 2020 #18
"He'll be dropping out any day now" Alea Jun 2020 #19
If he's ever going to strike a pardon deal the time is now. nt Cognitive_Resonance Jun 2020 #20
Trump lives on grievances and disputes dalton99a Jun 2020 #21
Has anyone asked his stalwarts what they think? Mr. Ected Jun 2020 #22
I'll retroactively hold my breath if/when it happens. UTUSN Jun 2020 #29
That topic is on the Fox "News" web site front page right now. gulliver Jun 2020 #30
Don't think that will happen. If it does the Republican Party will have a Civil war. GulfCoast66 Jun 2020 #31
He's not going to ever Jspur Jun 2020 #34
Hanging on to the presidency is Trump's only chance to avoid prosecution Silent3 Jun 2020 #35
He will drop out shanti Jun 2020 #38
He'll wait until the election is over. Xolodno Jun 2020 #39

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
1. Not likely as Kushner and others close to him are trying to make lucrative deals while they can
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jun 2020

and are sure to be convincing him he must remain in office as long as possible because of the profits from his DC hotel and to avoid prosecution from NY.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
3. Your last four words are MONEY
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jun 2020

He has to stay in the White House to "avoid prosecution from NY". That is his #1 motivator.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
2. I've pooh poohed this in the past, but Pence's appearance trying to act normal and wearing a
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:17 PM
Jun 2020

mask made me wonder if Trump is thinking of resigning. Why else would Pence wear a mask and risk upsetting Dear Leader? Maybe there's something to this new independent streak.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
5. But if he resigns, he still can't get out from under the New York indictments
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jun 2020

that are ready to fly the minute he walks off the White House grounds.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
10. He could also go to Ukraine
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jun 2020

Or Saudi Arabia. There are a bunch of "shithole" countries in Africa that don't have extradition treaties either.

So many choices!!

Girard442

(6,071 posts)
12. I'm sure Vlad has a nice penthouse apartment waiting for him.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jun 2020

Lovely big windows that open wide for ...ummm... fresh air.

Takket

(21,566 posts)
23. i don't think that's gonig to happen.........
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jun 2020

Putin has a ruthless KGB mentality. The minute drumpf is no longer president, his usefulness to Putin is officially gone, and frankly, he knows to much. If he goes to Russia, he'll fall out a window within a day.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
26. His taxes have been subpoenaed
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:11 PM
Jun 2020

by the state AG and DA in Manhattan. His phony charity. His business expensing of the Stormy Daniels payments.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
32. His taxes have been in the hands of the IRS and the New York state IRS for decades.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:47 PM
Jun 2020

If there was criminal activity they would have acted on it. The charity is a civil matter and has already been acted on. It is not criminal according to NY state. Stormy Daniels is not going anywhere criminally. #realworld.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
36. State crimes are going to be a pain in the ass to prosecute.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:03 PM
Jun 2020

If they have any tinge of being related to Federal crimes, its going to get muddy. And if he's pardoned on Federal...it makes it even harder on the state.

His lawyers will tie this shit up for so long, he'll probably croak before he appears in court.

I'm of the opinion, his sons and Jarvanka will take the full brunt...and I don't expect them to remain in the country.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
4. Trump's poll numbers will go down...because of today's news.......
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jun 2020

.......Trump knew the Russians were paying others to kill U.S. Troops, and Trump did nothing....

.......YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET!!!!!!!

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. Polls numbers - WTF . . .
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jun 2020

We are in . . .

1. Pandemic, which he and his administration alongwith republicans have royally mismanaged;
2. Economy, which he and his administration alongwith republicans have royally screwed up;
3. Health care and unemployment, which he and his administration alongwith republicans have royally in the process of destroying;
4. USA troops with bounty on their heads, which he and his administration alongwith republicans have royally have done nothing;
5. and there is much more et al.,

But alas, polls numbers have spark the talk of shithole getting the boot

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,345 posts)
11. Under your #5. ...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jun 2020

Includes, but is not limited to,

* Ukraine scandal (impeachment sabotaged by Republicans)
* babies in cages (Republicans are fine with that)
* robbing money from veterans and current military to build a puny wall (Republicans are fine with that)

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
33. Not only that
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:52 PM
Jun 2020

In his blaze of epic crash and burn glory he takes down everyone even remotely associated with him.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
15. Sorry but this is a replay of 2016.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jun 2020

There were even betting odds set on whether he would drop out in 2016:

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/donald-trump-drop-out-of-race/

If Trump didn't drop out in 2016 - why would he in 2020? The fact is, despite Trump's polling so atrociously right now for an incumbent, his odds at this point, at least in betting odds, aren't that far off where they were in 2016 - an election he won.

Currently, Biden's odds are at 62% on Predict - Trump at 40. At this point, four years ago, Hillary's odds were at 69% chance to win the White House. Trump was at 33%. So, he's actually doing better than four years ago at this point.

I also do not believe Trump thought he was going to win in 2016. I think that was a shock for him. He played the same games then as he is now: setting up the idea the election would be stolen. Do people not remember the debate where they asked him if he would go on the record stating the results would be legitimate if he lost - and he couldn't do it?

I actually think Trump believes, because of 2016, that he has a good chance of winning this despite the polls. He can't fathom people don't like him.

So, for him to drop out, he'd have to concede he can't win and I don't think he is anywhere near conceding that. He could be down 30 points in the polls and would still believe his chances are good at reelection.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. Has anyone asked his stalwarts what they think?
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jun 2020

The man could walk on all fours, saliva dripping from his mouth, and the MAGAts will keep wearing their hats and keep imagining a Trump in their own image just like they do with Jesus, ready to stick it to the libturds and conservative traitors by putting a tally in Trump's column.

It's not about will there be enough of them. The question is whether there's enough of them to give cover to whatever election shenanigans they have in mind, but they definitely have it in mind, and we need to stop thinking so rationally and be ready to react quickly to the myriad outlandish ways the GOP and their co-partner, I mean co-conspirator, Russia, deign to wreak havoc in the months preceding the election, the day of, and the months in the aftermath.

Hold on tight.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
31. Don't think that will happen. If it does the Republican Party will have a Civil war.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:23 PM
Jun 2020

Not that trump cares.

But if the polls continue as they are and Biden wins, which unlike many here do not think is assured by any means, his strategy will become legend.

Let your opponent destroy himself because you are confident the American people know what kind of man you are.

Jspur

(578 posts)
34. He's not going to ever
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:54 PM
Jun 2020

quit. We have heard this bs for 4 years now that he's going to quit his job because he doesn't like being president. The man is so god damn arrogant and delusional that it's not in his makeup to walk away and quit. His ego won't allow it. To get rid of him Biden is going to have to beat him. As democrats we have to accept the reality that the only way to get rid of Trump is to beat him in the election.

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
35. Hanging on to the presidency is Trump's only chance to avoid prosecution
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jun 2020

Even if he were to resign, with a deal that Pence would give him a full pardon, there's a bunch of stuff in New York state (and probably elsewhere) that no Pence pardon will save him from.

Covering his own ass might be the only reason left that Trump wants to stay in office.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
39. He'll wait until the election is over.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:12 PM
Jun 2020

Blame the media, Intelligence community who disliked him, Obama appointee's he couldn't get rid of, etc. for his loss and was "the greatest president ever".

But in between that time, siphon all the campaign funds they can under "consulting" and make deals all over the world for the Trump business.

And Pence will do the deed. He knows his political career is over. His buddies in Congress will tell him that the specter of prolonged hearings and investigations will haunt the GOP and hurt their cause. Best to rip the band aid off now rather than slowly peel it off. They'll do their best to make Trump a distant memory.

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