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spanone

(135,832 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:26 PM Jun 2020

Choir of more than 100 people perform without masks at Pence event

Washington (CNN)A choir of more than 100 people performed without masks at a robustly attended event in Texas at the First Baptist Church on Sunday that featured a speech by Vice President Mike Pence.

Nearly 2,200 people attended the "Celebrate Freedom Rally," in the Lone Star State, according to rally organizers, which has seen a severe surge in coronavirus cases since easing restrictions. The venue capacity for the indoor event was close to 3,000 attendees, organizers say.

Throughout the service, the members of the choir sang at full volume, behind an orchestra. Between songs, the choir members put their masks back on when they sat down, according to pool reports from the event. The members of the choir had space between them, but it was not clear if it was the recommended six feet.

Face masks at the event were "strongly encouraged," with signs posted around the venue signaling the suggestion. According to pool reports from the event, at least half of the crowd was wearing a face covering, an act which experts say can reduce the transmission of Covid-19 by as much as 50%.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/mike-pence-dallas-choir-no-masks-church-event/index.html
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Choir of more than 100 people perform without masks at Pence event (Original Post) spanone Jun 2020 OP
A thousand facepalms for that one. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
Lol! Good analogy. nt Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #11
Bwahahahaahahahaaa🤡 spanone Jun 2020 #22
No joke. 80% will get the virus. ananda Jun 2020 #27
When they announced he wasn't holding lots of events, I was hoping that included this. lark Jun 2020 #2
We know what happened with just the choir Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #3
And if they were standing behind the orchestra leftieNanner Jun 2020 #5
Yes! Oregon or Washington choir Grins Jun 2020 #16
More than 25. Almost all got infected. LisaL Jun 2020 #18
So much for separation of church and state... Karadeniz Jun 2020 #4
If Faux pas Jun 2020 #6
Testing faith and fate Freethinker65 Jun 2020 #7
They put the masks back on... AFTER singing each song! Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #8
The proverbial barn door. dem4decades Jun 2020 #12
Yeah, Because When We're Singing... ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #14
Gawd. I did theater for years and I've been inadvertently spat on so many times. forgotmylogin Jun 2020 #15
Playing in Bands... ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #19
Another super spreader event Gothmog Jun 2020 #9
This is not Christian... Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #10
Did you guys see this tweet from the daughter of a person in the choir? Mike 03 Jun 2020 #13
Freedom Sundays leads to Monday Illnesses and Deaths (a couple of weeks later)! SWBTATTReg Jun 2020 #32
Jeebus Christo spanone Jun 2020 #34
As a choir teacher, this mortifies me. Music Man Jun 2020 #17
6 feet of separation would not be enough for a choir Poiuyt Jun 2020 #20
Unfortunately this is all true. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #25
I can relate Poiuyt Jun 2020 #33
I suspect we're going to soon see a lot of positive diagnoses. Golden Raisin Jun 2020 #21
This is why the European Union wants nothing to do with us. spanone Jun 2020 #23
But they wore the magic masks between spewing sessions! Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #24
and today pence was with gov abbott in texas telling folks to wear masks. spanone Jun 2020 #37
And whoever Pence and Trump finally meet, it's not gonna be Jesus. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #26
As the board chair of a gay men's chorus I really can't express just how angry this makes me dsc Jun 2020 #28
Pretty inspirational vids of choirs rehearsing on zoom soothsayer Jun 2020 #30
rehearsing on zoom is all but impossible dsc Jun 2020 #35
Dead meat. fierywoman Jun 2020 #29
Zero accountability for Pence because there will be no contact tracing. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #31
The Rapture torius Jun 2020 #36
Kick Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #38

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
1. A thousand facepalms for that one.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jun 2020

It doesn't do much good to put the masks back on after you're finished singing because singing is what spreads the damn virus. It's like wiping your butt after you've put your pants back on.

spanone

(135,832 posts)
22. Bwahahahaahahahaaa🤡
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jun 2020

So true.....& Azar out there telling us today that we're running out of time. TELL THAT TO THE FUCKING president, azar

lark

(23,099 posts)
2. When they announced he wasn't holding lots of events, I was hoping that included this.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jun 2020

No such luck for my friends and family in the Dallas area, he did go there and 2200 people (or maybe 1100) are exposed.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
3. We know what happened with just the choir
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jun 2020

practice in another state. You know this choir has been practicing for at least a week to ensure they would sound great for Pence.

leftieNanner

(15,100 posts)
5. And if they were standing behind the orchestra
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jun 2020

Their "droplets" were spewed all over them too.

This is absolutely nuts.

Plus you have to be standing a lot farther away than 6 feet if you are singing.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
16. Yes! Oregon or Washington choir
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jun 2020

Months ago. Can’t recall all the details but about 80 people. In a rehearsal. No audience. And no masks. Covid-19 spread? About 25 in a matter of DAYS!

And singing is projecting! The virus travels further when singing vs. conversation.

This was not a secret. Surprised this “mega-church” either wasn’t aware - or flat out didn’t care.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
14. Yeah, Because When We're Singing...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

...hardly any sputum or mucous droplets are expelled. And hardly any air flow.
Hardly

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
15. Gawd. I did theater for years and I've been inadvertently spat on so many times.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jun 2020

Whilst singing and speaking with projection and enunciating. I've done it too. It's the Ps and the Ts!

In choir, the front row of risers was always known as the "spit zone". Frikking director: "If the front row isn't getting wet you're not doing it right!"

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
19. Playing in Bands...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jun 2020

...the top of the guitar and all the keys on those instruments had spots.
Had to clean all that before they into cases at the end of the night.
Removed wind screens on mikes to clean about once a month, but disinfected the screens and guard before each gig.
Singing makes a mess.
A really good way to spread aerosols.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
13. Did you guys see this tweet from the daughter of a person in the choir?
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jun 2020

?s=20

Text: I do find it a little funny that, just like Trump's rally, I see a lot of empty rows. Good. My mom unfortunately is in the choir. She gave me 4 names this past week of church members who had tested positive for covid.

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
32. Freedom Sundays leads to Monday Illnesses and Deaths (a couple of weeks later)!
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:03 PM
Jun 2020

How irresponsible. And as one DU poster had mentioned, there was another choir that practiced and many of them came down w/ the CV.

I hope your Mom is ok.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
20. 6 feet of separation would not be enough for a choir
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jun 2020

When you sing, you are pushing air out from the bottom of your lungs (chest voice) and doing so with a lot of force. It's much worse than regular conversation.

I had been singing in a church choir before all this started. Our choir director sent us all an article about the dangers of group singing with regard to this virus. I know he would be devastated if we came back too soon and someone ended up getting sick because of it.

BTW, we had to cancel several major events because of the virus. Our health is more important than performing for the likes of Mike Pence. Fuck him!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
25. Unfortunately this is all true.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

I belong to a small choral ensemble that performs mostly early music. There are only 12 of us but that's still too many for safe rehearsals and performances, so we had to cancel the rest of our season and we might not have one next year either. Nobody is singing right now. It's sad and we all miss it terribly but we're not going to risk our health or our audiences' health (assuming anyone would show up). The performing arts are really being hit hard but all we can do is wait.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
33. I can relate
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jun 2020

I chose the choir I'm in because they do a lot of classical music—Mozart, Bach, etc. I really miss it.

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
21. I suspect we're going to soon see a lot of positive diagnoses.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

And some in the choir, orchestra and packed church may be meeting Jesus sooner than they expected.

spanone

(135,832 posts)
37. and today pence was with gov abbott in texas telling folks to wear masks.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jun 2020

this administration is killing AMERICANS DAY BY SAY

dsc

(52,162 posts)
28. As the board chair of a gay men's chorus I really can't express just how angry this makes me
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jun 2020

We have all but decided we won't so much as rehearse until January. We haven't rehearsed since early March. We miss it terribly. I am so angry.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
30. Pretty inspirational vids of choirs rehearsing on zoom
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe you can try it and see? If nothing else, you can connect.

Hopefully this gets behind us at some point.

Hang in there.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
35. rehearsing on zoom is all but impossible
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jun 2020

we are looking into doing one song via video to keep our presence up and are doing some social things on zoom. The delay in sound from place to place makes zoom not very good for rehearsal unfortunately.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
31. Zero accountability for Pence because there will be no contact tracing.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:01 PM
Jun 2020

I want to know how much money they solicited out of that crowd and how they did it.

This is the Republican version of leading by example......

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