Another shooting in Seattle's police-free autonomous zone kills man and critically injures boy

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A shooting in Seattle's Capitol Hill Occupation Protest (CHOP) area Monday morning left one man dead and a 14-year-old boy critically injured -- bringing more scrutiny to the autonomous protest zone.
"When investigators arrived, they found a white Jeep Cherokee riddled with bullet holes on 12th Avenue," Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best said, according to CNN affiliate KIRO.
"We were told that there were two men inside the vehicle, and both had been shot."
The two occupants were taken to Harborview Medical Center in critical condition between 3:15 and 3:30 a.m. (6:15 and 6:30 a.m. ET), hospital spokeswoman Susan Gregg told CNN.
The man later died, and the 14-year-old boy remains in critical condition, the hospital said.
Monday's attack is the fifth shooting within two weeks in the CHOP area, and the second to turn fatal.
Thousands of protesters have occupied the area, a four- to six-block section of Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood, since June 8 in an effort to demand police reform following the death of George Floyd.
But CNN has observed that the number of people within the CHOP area has decreased significantly over the past week.
The police chief said violence in the autonomous zone "is a real problem" and said she questions "why would we continue to allow this to happen."
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan's administration has been cautious about moving back into the protest zone. Friday, a spokeswoman for the mayor told CNN it's possible the CHOP area "could last a few more weeks."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/us/chop-seattle-shooting/index.html

[brush]

1. Not looking good for that whole concept. Seems there is a role...

policing, re-imagined police of course.

[soothsayer]

2. For all we know, these ARE reimagined police doing the shooting

Some instigator anyway

[brush]

3. So you thing police did the shootings?

[brooklynite]

11. Alerted

Unsupported conspiracy theory

[maxsolomon]

14. Police wouldn't not have stopped this. They don't stop shootings; they happen too fast.

As we've seen over and over and over and over in recent times.

The presence of an occupied precinct 2 blocks away might have been a deterrent in some other scenario, but that's an assumption.

[The Mouth]

16. When seconds count

the police are only minutes away.

[ChazII]

4. Recommended the story

so it receives more exposure. It seems that there is not much coverage.

[Tripper11]

5. UPDATE : Detectives have identified the deceased victim as a 16-year-old male.

Written by Public Affairs on June 29, 2020 9:22 am
UPDATE: Detectives have identified the deceased victim as a 16-year-old male. The 14-year-old victim is still receiving treatment at Harborview Medical Center.

https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2020/06/29/one-dead-one-injured-in-early-morning-shooting-on-12th-avenue/

[jmg257]

6. Did they delay shutting that all down again? Who is liable

For this stuff?

[maxsolomon]

7. What do you mean, "liable"?

The people who do the shootings are liable for their actions.

[jmg257]

8. Responsible for sure. But if standard services are interrupted...

Maybe someone has to take ownership of that?

Maybe not.

[maxsolomon]

10. Like water and electricity?

Those are working.

I don't know all the particulars, but it seems the city is refusing to enter with police or EMTs, or at least they're not coming as fast as the people there (Lefty "medics", also heavily armed private security protecting the BMW mechanic helped last night) are responding.

It's hard to gauge the atmosphere at night up there - I'm not going to check it out; I'm asleep.

[jmg257]

12. I was thinking more police and EMT type services.

If they aren’t responding, or whatnot.

Guess we will see?.


On edit: below it looks like one shooting took place then another retaliatory one. Did police respond to the initial call? Was there aN Initial call?

[maxsolomon]

13. I don't know - I kind of doubt the protestor camp called the police.

The story is emerging today.

[jmg257]

15. Ok thanks! Cheers! nt

[maxsolomon]

9. the developing story is quite something:

these are unconfirmed reports, but:

1. The 16 year old & 14 year old had driven past the tents earlier and FIRED WEAPONS INTO THE TENTS where protestors were sleeping. there weren't any reported injuries from this incident.
2. They came back at 3:30 am and people in the tents defended themselves from another attack with their own weapons.
3. The vehicle was NOT on the street; it was in the park, on the ballfield.

probably time for everyone to go home; the zone itself has become a target.