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sheshe2

(83,336 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:49 PM Jun 2020

Per CNN: senior officials said that the President of the United States...

Is a threat to our national security. Let me repeat that the President of the United States is a threat to our national security due to phone calls to certain world leaders. They did nothing!

They did nothing.

NOTHING!

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Per CNN: senior officials said that the President of the United States... (Original Post) sheshe2 Jun 2020 OP
K & R . . . Iliyah Jun 2020 #1
Trump is a menace. lpbk2713 Jun 2020 #2
Not a menace. warmfeet Jun 2020 #24
Any links? SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #3
Not yet. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #5
Just watched Bernstein malaise Jun 2020 #4
Have a link? Like to know the enemy! No tv or print. Or maybe youtube link? bobbieinok Jun 2020 #13
Here malaise Jun 2020 #14
Thanks! bobbieinok Jun 2020 #16
Trump isn't a threat to Russia's national security, though. sop Jun 2020 #6
The United States is just a commodity for Traitor Trump to enrich himself, it's an "opportunity" AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2020 #7
Recommended, but I disagree, she. The Trump Adminstration did something. guillaumeb Jun 2020 #8
And those GOPers in the Senate knew it, yet still acquitted him. iluvtennis Jun 2020 #9
I've been wondering how this registered on Susan Collins' dflprincess Jun 2020 #47
Yes, you can. iluvtennis Jun 2020 #49
From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm U Person of Interest Jun 2020 #10
I thought you were going to say LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #11
Link here. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #12
It's a dandy soothsayer Jun 2020 #15
And just like Bolton, these Rat$ to the nation said nothing?? Lock him up. Jun 2020 #17
the impeachment trial proved that it was better for competent people to stay as long as possible renate Jun 2020 #26
That's just swell, innit? *sigh* crickets Jun 2020 #30
Thank you. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #33
Angela Merkel 'stupid'...with a doctorate in quantum chemistry? SeattleVet Jun 2020 #37
"Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had. " OMGWTF Jun 2020 #51
... Lucinda Jun 2020 #18
Of course, trump is.. we've known that and now it very much seems Cha Jun 2020 #19
Yes, many of us knew this before the election in 2016 Kaleva Jun 2020 #20
This a link sunonmars Jun 2020 #21
If we get FOUR MORE YEARS with him...There will be no more COUNTRY left. He will destroy it all yuiyoshida Jun 2020 #22
You are correct. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #34
Absolutely this! BlueMTexpat Jun 2020 #48
The info in the article is just appalling and infuriating Docreed2003 Jun 2020 #23
Senior officials? stillcool Jun 2020 #25
Yea, just read the article at CNN.com. All, I mean All, (except Jarvanka, who are NOT anything) are fwvinson Jun 2020 #27
The Reich Wing think Dems are a bigger threat so they let Drumpt do whatever. kairos12 Jun 2020 #28
Republicans put a criminal lowlife scumbag in the White House and refused to remove him from power. dalton99a Jun 2020 #29
we should never let bdamomma Jun 2020 #44
"It was like the United States had disappeared. It was always 'Just me'." dalton99a Jun 2020 #31
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2020 #32
THIS malaise Jun 2020 #35
How do they sleep? H2O Man Jun 2020 #42
I know that H2O man. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #39
Oh, I knew that! H2O Man Jun 2020 #41
that's old news...way been when it was first noticed that he's submission to Putin this was discusse Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #36
tRump treats women Chicagogrl1 Jun 2020 #38
Thanks, Mitch world wide wally Jun 2020 #40
Remember back in History what happened to traitors bdamomma Jun 2020 #43
It's amazing llashram Jun 2020 #45
Huh. Present tense.. they say he's a threat. Past tense Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2020 #46
They did nothing!! DesertRat Jun 2020 #50
If the military does nothing to stop this failed CiC, it doesn't have its own back and ancianita Jun 2020 #52

lpbk2713

(42,696 posts)
2. Trump is a menace.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jun 2020


These other countries should know by now he would sell
them out just as quickly as he sells out his own country.

sheshe2

(83,336 posts)
5. Not yet.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jun 2020

I’m also on my phone since my computer keeps freezing up on me so it will be too difficult for me to search.

I am so upset right now.

malaise

(267,808 posts)
4. Just watched Bernstein
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jun 2020

How he talked about female world leaders was frightening but not surprising.

sop

(9,946 posts)
6. Trump isn't a threat to Russia's national security, though.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jun 2020

Trump's just doing what he was put in office to do: help Putin.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,225 posts)
7. The United States is just a commodity for Traitor Trump to enrich himself, it's an "opportunity"
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jun 2020

to take advantage. His former attorney Roy Cohn said that's what trump was good at: "exploiting opportunities".

dflprincess

(28,057 posts)
47. I've been wondering how this registered on Susan Collins'
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:36 AM
Jun 2020

concern meter. But, as you point out, she knew so I guess I can stop wondering.

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
11. I thought you were going to say
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jun 2020
Per CNN: senior officials said that the President of the United States is a Manchurian Candidate.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,145 posts)
12. Link here.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics/trump-phone-calls-national-security-concerns/index.html

In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations.

The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders. The sources said there was little evidence that the President became more skillful or competent in his telephone conversations with most heads of state over time. Rather, he continued to believe that he could either charm, jawbone or bully almost any foreign leader into capitulating to his will, and often pursued goals more attuned to his own agenda than what many of his senior advisers considered the national interest.

These officials' concerns about the calls, and particularly Trump's deference to Putin, take on new resonance with reports the President may have learned in March that Russia had offered the Taliban bounties to kill US troops in Afghanistan -- and yet took no action. CNN's sources said there were calls between Putin and Trump about Trump's desire to end the American military presence in Afghanistan but they mentioned no discussion of the supposed Taliban bounties.

By far the greatest number of Trump's telephone discussions with an individual head of state were with Erdogan, who sometimes phoned the White House at least twice a week and was put through directly to the President on standing orders from Trump, according to the sources. Meanwhile, the President regularly bullied and demeaned the leaders of America's principal allies, especially two women: telling Prime Minister Theresa May of the United Kingdom she was weak and lacked courage; and telling German Chancellor Angela Merkel that she was "stupid."

Lock him up.

(6,874 posts)
17. And just like Bolton, these Rat$ to the nation said nothing??
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jun 2020

They did not say much except he's a effin moRon and that's it?

Are they all planning to write book$????

Lock him up!!

renate

(13,776 posts)
26. the impeachment trial proved that it was better for competent people to stay as long as possible
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jun 2020

I have nothing but contempt for John Bolton because he had the chance to go in front of a national audience and say under oath that the President is dangerous and out of control.

But the other people--what could they have achieved by making a fuss on their way out? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It would have been the news story of an hour, and then we'd be on to the next tweet. That's the way every scandal has been--every damn day--for three and a half years.

I don't like most of them and most of them I actively dislike. But if they were the only adults in the room, I can see why they felt they had a responsibility to stay as long as possible to keep the genuine lunatics away from the president's ear. And after they left, if they were inclined to speak out, they may have realized that keeping their powder dry for the months leading up to the election would have been the way to at least ensure he won't get a second term. I really don't think that anybody could have shifted public opinion before now by speaking up.

I'm willing to consider the likelihood that I'm wrong but I don't think there was anything that could have been achieved by their speaking up before now, now that he's in a long-overdue death spiral. It would have been nice and we'd have loved it, but nothing would have actually changed.

But absolutely--Lock him up! I finally have hopes that we'll actually see that happen someday.

sheshe2

(83,336 posts)
33. Thank you.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jun 2020

My computer has kicked the bucket. Going to take me a few days go out and get a new one. It’ll take me a few days before I get back online and not just the phone.

SeattleVet

(5,468 posts)
37. Angela Merkel 'stupid'...with a doctorate in quantum chemistry?
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:42 PM
Jun 2020

That sure isn't a lot like barely squeaking by and getting a business degree.

tRump couldn't even begin to understand what her actual degrees and experience entail. I can just hear him now..."Quantum chemistry? But you see, a Quantum is a Volkswagen - that's engineering, not chemistry! Stupid woman!"

OMGWTF

(3,896 posts)
51. "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had. "
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jun 2020

William T. Kelly, former professor, University of Pennsylvania, Wharton

Cha

(295,904 posts)
19. Of course, trump is.. we've known that and now it very much seems
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jun 2020

to be coming out so the media is catching on.

This is the treasonous asshole that Sarandon said "Hillary was more dangerous that trump".. and Van stupid Jones said was "presidential".. contributing to the blood on trump's hands.

Thank you for the report from CNN, she

yuiyoshida

(41,760 posts)
22. If we get FOUR MORE YEARS with him...There will be no more COUNTRY left. He will destroy it all
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:08 PM
Jun 2020

no hype.. and yes it is possible he will dismantle this country and make himself supreme leader.

Docreed2003

(16,817 posts)
23. The info in the article is just appalling and infuriating
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jun 2020

Essentially, we now have even more confirmation that Trump is an imbecilic blowhard, who bullies allies (particularly female world leaders), cowtows to despots, is propped up by his moronic daughter and son in law, and is "too smart" to be briefed by our intelligence services before interacting with said despots. His actions are totally about his own self interests above the interests of our country and he has no business occupying his current role. He could have and should have been removed earlier this year, but these same individuals who confirmed this story refused to speak out when it mattered most. Fuck every last one of them.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
25. Senior officials?
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jun 2020

He replaced anyone, who knew anything about anything. What 'senior' officials are there? Jared? Oh..Senior Officials from years ago? What about any of this is "news"?

 

fwvinson

(488 posts)
27. Yea, just read the article at CNN.com. All, I mean All, (except Jarvanka, who are NOT anything) are
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jun 2020

saying Trump was, basically, treasonous with the dictators of the world against the US. And they have proof!

H2O Man

(73,321 posts)
32. Recommended.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:20 PM
Jun 2020

I will respectfully disagree. What they did is far more damaging than doing nothing.

"A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words." -- John Lennon, 1974

sheshe2

(83,336 posts)
39. I know that H2O man.
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 09:02 PM
Jun 2020

It’s hard for me to post but I want to say when I’m on my phone. I think my computer kicked the bucket tonight. It’s unusable.

Thanks.

H2O Man

(73,321 posts)
41. Oh, I knew that!
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 10:15 PM
Jun 2020

It was one of my attempts at humor -- though my children beg me never to attempt a joke in a public forum, as I'm just not funny! (grin)

I did that rather than vent my actual outrage at these fucking cowards that betrayed -- in the most literal sense -- their oath to the Constitution. They are complicit. I am so disgusted.

Demovictory9

(32,323 posts)
36. that's old news...way been when it was first noticed that he's submission to Putin this was discusse
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:41 PM
Jun 2020

d.. Trump is teflon

Chicagogrl1

(411 posts)
38. tRump treats women
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jun 2020

Like his father treated his mother, his dad was probably a sadistic bully. tRump had to learn it somewhere. Can’t wait for the tell all book. It will explain much of his improper behavior.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
45. It's amazing
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jun 2020

this Twilight Zone existence we are enduring because of this racist clown the Electoral College installed as POTUS. I do miss my pick SOS Hillary Rodham Clinton, President Obama and competence in an administration guiding this floundering ship of state being purposefully driven onto the rocks by the puppet master of this POTUS, Putin.

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
52. If the military does nothing to stop this failed CiC, it doesn't have its own back and
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jun 2020

sure doesn't have American civilians' back. Civilians have tried to remove him and, so far, it's structurally not possible until November.

If it doesn't show it has American civilians' back, civilians shouldn't pay taxes until those taxes are used for them.

It's bad enough to have taxation without representation. It's the worst sign of a failed state to pay for a military that can't or won't protect it from foreign enemies.

A lot can happen in the next seven months. American civilians and their military should act to make sure it doesn't.

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