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To those who believe that Putin "has something" on Trump... (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2020 OP
Both can be true, and probably are. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #1
Oh yes, I agree PatSeg Jun 2020 #8
IMO, Putin gave Trumpy-Boy a Loyalty Test. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2020 #2
+1 Just like Helsinki, and just like making the Russiapublican Senators come to Moscow on July 4th lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #3
He wants to be in their club. n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2020 #4
M.O.N.E.Y. Zoonart Jun 2020 #5
I think Trump was brainwashed. He's the manchurian candidate. Doodley Jun 2020 #6
True, Sir --- He Just Wants To Play With The Big Kids The Magistrate Jun 2020 #7
He's an actual gangster blogslut Jun 2020 #9
Trump loves autocrats because he wants to be one. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #10
He cheerleads for anyone who he thinks likes and helps him Lucinda Jun 2020 #11
I don't think he "has something on Trump" jcgoldie Jun 2020 #12
. . . could put trump into the Big House empedocles Jun 2020 #16
Kick dalton99a Jun 2020 #13
I think Trump may just be scared of Putin. Trump is a bully and they go after people they think they Quixote1818 Jun 2020 #14
Yes I do believe Putin has a video of trump porking a 13 year old Ivanka look alike njhoneybadger Jun 2020 #15
$$$$$$$$$$$$ world wide wally Jun 2020 #17
Putin was just waiting for this MOMENT!! bluestarone Jun 2020 #18
It likely is a combination of money and ideology. Putin juggles Enoki33 Jun 2020 #19
Putin was KGB llashram Jun 2020 #20
He's in kahoots with Putin and Russian oligarchs, among others cyberswede Jun 2020 #21

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
8. Oh yes, I agree
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jun 2020

Trump is besotted with strong men and dictators, but I also believe Putin has a lot on him, probably a combination of scandal(s) and financial debt. Putin's favorite patsy! Who knew it could be so easy?

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
2. IMO, Putin gave Trumpy-Boy a Loyalty Test.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:41 AM
Jun 2020

Putin: you will do what I tell you. To prove your loyalty to ME, I'm going to kill your soldiers one by one and YOU are to keep your mouth shut and do nothing. If you're a good little boy, I won't emasculate you in front of the world and ruin your chances for re-election.

Trump: crickets.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
7. True, Sir --- He Just Wants To Play With The Big Kids
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jun 2020

He reminds me of the hanger-on, Schwimmer, who liked the company of those gangsters at the garage, and went up against the wall with them on St. Valentine's day....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
10. Trump loves autocrats because he wants to be one.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jun 2020

That Putin owns him is just bidness; he's glad to do Putin's bidding because it means he's a member of that club.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
11. He cheerleads for anyone who he thinks likes and helps him
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jun 2020

I suspect he's the type to admire someone who can best him

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
12. I don't think he "has something on Trump"
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jun 2020

...not information. Trump thinks all publicity is good anyway as long as they are talking about you. I think he controls his debt. He could put the fucker in the poor house

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
14. I think Trump may just be scared of Putin. Trump is a bully and they go after people they think they
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jun 2020

can bully around. For Trump it's women he yells at. I think Trump is scared of all dictators.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
15. Yes I do believe Putin has a video of trump porking a 13 year old Ivanka look alike
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jun 2020

And probably Epstein had a copy too. I'm crazy

bluestarone

(16,917 posts)
18. Putin was just waiting for this MOMENT!!
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jun 2020

Putin owns the white-house, half of our congress, and we will find out soon about the Supreme court!

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
19. It likely is a combination of money and ideology. Putin juggles
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jun 2020

those two masterfully in a sick , evil mind. We plainly see the results.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
20. Putin was KGB
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:34 AM
Jun 2020

trumps mind is no match for the evil in Putin's mind. Trump is in kindergarten compared to Putin.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
21. He's in kahoots with Putin and Russian oligarchs, among others
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jun 2020

I agree that Trump has way too much adoration for autocrats - presumably because he thinks he should be the recipient of the same blind allegiance demanded by dictators.

Also, in the case of Putin, Trump has been groomed as an asset for years, including Putin knowing exactly how to play to his narcissism and greed.

Check out Sarah Kendzior's book "Hiding in Plain Sight"

Here's an excerpt from s review of it:

And since 2016, her single-minded focus has been bringing to light the depth and reach of Trump’s connections to a sprawling network of kleptocrats, billionaires, propagandists, fixers, and strong-armers that Kendzior calls “a transnational crime syndicate masquerading as a government.”

Her new book, Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America, connects these dots and then some. It’s not simply a book about Trump, but an indictment of the myth of American exceptionalism that made his ascendency possible. The paranoia birthed by Richard Nixon and Watergate; the ruthless venality in which Trump was schooled by his early mentor Roy Cohn; the creation of a television network explicitly engineered to churn out a boundless supply of profitable fear and fury.

(https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/sarah-kendzior-hiding-in-plain-sight-interview)


And a Kendzior quote from a Vogue interview:

"But more to the point, he has backers, and those backers have their own agenda, ranging from the transnational and kleptocratic Russian mafia to the Kremlin itself, which wants to get rid of sanctions, to various American plutocrats like Mitch McConnell, who use Trump to their advantage—to stack the federal courts with right-wing judges, among other things—to white supremacists like Stephen Miller."

(https://www.vogue.com/article/sarah-kendzior-interview-hiding-in-plain-sight-donald-trump)


I can't recommend this book enough. It's a riveting, fast read.



https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250245397

"[Kendzior's] book documents Trump's 'decades-long erosion of American stability, integrity, and democracy.' I recommend it, especially if you have any doubt about what's at stake in this year's presidential election."
Connie Schultz, Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist and author of forthcoming novel The Daughters of Erietown

"Sarah Kendzior, in her brilliant new book, is one of the few journalists who grasps what is happening. Kendzior is a student of autocracy... she has been warning from the get-go that Trump is working to turn America into one."
David Cay Johnston, New York Times bestselling author of It's Even Worse Than You Think and Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist


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