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Another absolutely brutal ad from the Lincoln Project. (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Jun 2020 OP
Boom! grumpyduck Jun 2020 #1
Oxymoron, Pro-Life Soldier n/t aggiesal Jun 2020 #43
"Pro-life" translated volstork Jun 2020 #44
Still, T's supporters can relate to that and grumpyduck Jun 2020 #46
Undoubtedly. volstork Jun 2020 #47
With you. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2020 #57
it's OK. He's a conservative. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. onetexan Jun 2020 #52
and this thread will show how many agree. cwydro Jun 2020 #62
That's one of the new games I play. calimary Jul 2020 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #74
It really comes down to volstork Jul 2020 #75
That's going to leave a mark... orwell Jun 2020 #2
Great Ad, everyone should watch...1 minute..total hell for Trump!! Stuart G Jun 2020 #3
This has been the most brutal Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #4
I agree. It's going to hit home. BComplex Jun 2020 #50
Anyone heard from that asshole Congressman with the eye patch? GoCubsGo Jun 2020 #5
Dan Crenshaw Chellee Jun 2020 #24
Yeah, him. GoCubsGo Jun 2020 #25
He will be troubled Sugarcoated Jul 2020 #70
Yassssss! Jirel Jun 2020 #6
Ouch. That will certainly leave a mark. n/t Laelth Jun 2020 #7
Wow that will sting. redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #8
Old lady approved! Kittycow Jun 2020 #9
First Covid, now Soldiers, as Trump said during his Republican Convention acceptance speech ... aggiesal Jun 2020 #48
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #10
Yeow. That's gonna break bones. C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #11
More of this Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #12
Brutal Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #13
More of this, but PLEASE, people, don't just say it's "new" - give a title flor-de-jasmim Jun 2020 #14
Where are these ads showing? I haven't seen any on television here in Oregon. jalan48 Jun 2020 #15
Hopefully they're on more than just Democratic Underground groundloop Jun 2020 #39
That's the only place I'm seeing them. jalan48 Jun 2020 #51
Twitter has them on also. efhmc Jul 2020 #72
I Heard They're Targeting Swing States ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #53
Thanks, that makes sense. I wonder how much they are being shown in swing states, hopefully a lot. jalan48 Jun 2020 #59
That I Don't Know ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #63
I've also heard they're literally targeting these ads were I45 will see them. forgotmylogin Jul 2020 #76
I Sure Hope So ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #77
Nicole Wallace aired it this afternoon on MSNBC vlyons Jun 2020 #56
Great! The problem is that she's preaching to the choir. If the ad can run during a show like Wheel jalan48 Jun 2020 #60
These ads are playing in red states and swing states. They get picked up by tv hosts... Hekate Jul 2020 #73
Holy Shit! nevergiveup Jun 2020 #16
It's the absolute truth. Dread Pirate Roberts Jun 2020 #17
Trump crossed a line. The gloves are off. Brutal ad. sop Jun 2020 #18
So Sherman A1 Jun 2020 #19
Thank you, Dr. Barkhuff. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2020 #20
Stinging rebuke of IMPOTUS. gademocrat7 Jun 2020 #21
I'd never vote for the guy CanonRay Jun 2020 #22
Does anyone know if the Lincoln Project ads are showing on Fox? Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #23
Lincoln Project ads premiere on FOX DC denem Jun 2020 #26
Thank you! Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #31
There's one particular Fox viewer in DC denem Jun 2020 #32
This is what I've been waiting for - Finally someone's being emphatic and forceful. NBachers Jun 2020 #27
That ad is just as brutal as it should be. Sloumeau Jun 2020 #28
Meh. Don't like the Pro-Life reference at all. Tommymac Jun 2020 #29
Who claimed they were progresive? That's almost the point. Get over yourself. manhattan123 Jun 2020 #34
THIS IS WHO THEY ARE. AT LEAST THEY'RE UPFRONT ABOUT IT. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #42
Agreed. Just want to emphasive to some that TLP is not on our side 100%. Tommymac Jun 2020 #54
Let them help Joe Biden defeat the orange betrayer first. Lock him up. Jul 2020 #68
I agree, to a point. However: Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2020 #55
I really like TLP ads that are pure attacks against Donnie boy. Tommymac Jun 2020 #58
I agree. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2020 #67
Once again: These ads are not aimed at us. They are aimed at Republicans. TLP isn't wasting money... Hekate Jul 2020 #71
Yep! kentuck Jun 2020 #30
This is a full punch to the face, personally delivered by a veteran. Fantastic. crickets Jun 2020 #33
Betrayed struggle4progress Jun 2020 #35
just saw that on tv just a bit ago. Nice one. demigoddess Jun 2020 #36
wow! And there is still 4 months to go rurallib Jun 2020 #37
That's the best one I've seen yet. Yeehah Jun 2020 #38
Best one yet. Native Jun 2020 #40
He's both a coward and complicate. JDC Jun 2020 #41
Play in OĶ!! Make smug Inhofe watch it! And good ol boy Mitch! bobbieinok Jun 2020 #45
Brave soldier in this war, willing to be a target. Hortensis Jun 2020 #49
Kick dalton99a Jun 2020 #61
Wow. K&R! highplainsdem Jun 2020 #64
I see all these Lincoln Project ads on the internet? Wondering? OverBurn Jun 2020 #65
I'm sorry, "Send him back to his golf course?" Grokenstein Jun 2020 #66

grumpyduck

(6,199 posts)
1. Boom!
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jun 2020

And I like he said he was a vet, gun owner, and pro-lifer. A lot of T's supporters can relate to that.

You go, Lincoln Project writers!

volstork

(5,394 posts)
47. Undoubtedly.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jun 2020

I recognize that they are playing to a particular audience, but that phrase is a hot button for me...

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
57. With you.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jun 2020

Men decide all the time, because in some way they believe it will improve their lives (usually by bringing them more $$$) to take the lives of already born human beings, with friends & family deeply affected by the loss.

But how dare a woman make the decision not to birth a new being into the world for her own reasons???!!!

onetexan

(12,994 posts)
52. it's OK. He's a conservative. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

At least till we kick Agent Orange out of office.

calimary

(80,700 posts)
69. That's one of the new games I play.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:21 PM - Edit history (2)

The “...and I’ll bet you’ll insist you’re ‘pro-life’.”

If you’re a soldier whose main bottom-line job is to kill the bad guys if necessary, then that kinda rules out your claims of being “pro-life.” You just want to dominate women’s bodies.

If you’re gonna say you’re “pro-life,” then you really can’t be in the soldiering business, unless you work in a military hospital.


I should probably qualify this a little more. There are MANY in the military, probably most, who are in it for the patriotism, protecting their country, and all the life forms in it. But sometimes the grim work has to be done to back that up. And that involves "killing the bad guys." So it's a fine line to walk. But both are true. Which is why we need diplomacy, for example. If you get in a shooting war, and it's you or them, well, okay. I get it.

But that's still taking a life. And if exceptions can be made on this scenario, why is that not the case for a woman with an unwanted pregnancy? Why is THAT an exclusion? Why does that NOT count?

My point is - if one is going to plant the flag for "pro-life," one can't just pick 'n' choose what to impose on someone else with whom you disagree or who you don't think deserve to make their own decisions without outside interference.

Pro-life is pro-life. It allows for NO wiggle-room. It's a binary choice. This OR that. Period, full stop. It is a flat statement. NO exceptions. War is not okay. The death penalty is not okay. NO "...pro-life, except in the case of ... " It is SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD, ALL THE TIME, ACROSS THE BOARD.

Response to calimary (Reply #69)

volstork

(5,394 posts)
75. It really comes down to
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jul 2020

"pro" for WHOSE life? A fetus's? A mother's? A death-row criminal's? A wartime enemy's? Some of those can be rationalized with fairly sound logic, but some cannot.

Pretzel logic has no place in life-and-death decisions, but all too often we find it there, right smack in the middle...

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
50. I agree. It's going to hit home.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jun 2020

But not with the hardest core conspiracy theorists currently running around without their straight jackets.

GoCubsGo

(32,061 posts)
5. Anyone heard from that asshole Congressman with the eye patch?
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jun 2020

Can't think of his name. He's from Texas, and uses his military service as a cudgel. He's been awful quiet about this matter.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
9. Old lady approved!
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jun 2020

By this one, anyway.

After all, he's "telling it like it is" and cheato's followers like that.

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
48. First Covid, now Soldiers, as Trump said during his Republican Convention acceptance speech ...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jun 2020

“... The most basic duty of government is to defend the lives of its citizens. Any government that fails to do so is a government unworthy to lead.“
Full transcript here

I believe he has proven that he is unworthy to lead.

Cirque du So-What

(25,812 posts)
12. More of this
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jun 2020

MAGAts can’t even dream of matching this fellow’s true patriotism (not to mention a dozen or so other qualities) and they know it.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,124 posts)
14. More of this, but PLEASE, people, don't just say it's "new" - give a title
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jun 2020

For those of use who check in here several times a day, there can be 2-3 different "new" ads per day, and lots of repetitions!

But really, thanks for posting!

ProfessorGAC

(64,427 posts)
53. I Heard They're Targeting Swing States
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jun 2020

So, like you in Oregon, I'm not seeing them in Illinois. We went HRC 60:40 in 2016.
I don't think they're spending money in states PINO already cannot win.

ProfessorGAC

(64,427 posts)
63. That I Don't Know
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:57 PM
Jun 2020

What I do know, is that the PINO ads on TVLand, Food Network, AHC, and MeTV are pissing me off!

forgotmylogin

(7,496 posts)
76. I've also heard they're literally targeting these ads were I45 will see them.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jul 2020

They know they can ruffle his feathers.

jalan48

(13,798 posts)
60. Great! The problem is that she's preaching to the choir. If the ad can run during a show like Wheel
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jun 2020

of Fortune more conservatives might be exposed to it.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
73. These ads are playing in red states and swing states. They get picked up by tv hosts...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jul 2020

...with a national audience (for free). They get passed around online (for free).

The Lincoln Project doesn’t have an unlimited budget, so they narrowly target their audience. They don’t have to persuade DUers or Democrats in general that Trump is a disaster. The people they have to persuade to either vote against Trump or stay home are Republicans.

The people running The Lincoln Project are very smart and over many decades have been very successful. We Dems could learn a thing or two about their techniques, like focusing and framing. Damn, they are good at that.

Lonestarblue

(9,880 posts)
23. Does anyone know if the Lincoln Project ads are showing on Fox?
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jun 2020

I can’t stand watching it to see. I haven’t seen any of their ads here in Texas, but I’m hoping they get shown because the polls show Biden and Trump tied here. And with this bounty issue, there are plenty of military here in Texas who need to see ads like this.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
26. Lincoln Project ads premiere on FOX DC
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jun 2020

In the past, they have been targeted to particular cities/locales in the battleground states, including FL and NC, mostly on FNC.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
32. There's one particular Fox viewer in DC
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jun 2020

they want to see their latest ads. Cost them but $5,000 to put "Mourning in America" up on his Fox and Friends. The #TrumpIsNotWell ad paid off in spades.

NBachers

(17,007 posts)
27. This is what I've been waiting for - Finally someone's being emphatic and forceful.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jun 2020

And he says "Mr. Trump," not "President Trump."

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
29. Meh. Don't like the Pro-Life reference at all.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jun 2020

Drives home the fact that The Lincoln Project is an ally of necessity and are not Progressive at all.

They are showing their roots in this one.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
54. Agreed. Just want to emphasive to some that TLP is not on our side 100%.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:33 PM
Jun 2020

The love fest for The Lincoln Project goes to far sometimes imo.

I do like a lot of their ads...but this one, from the 'Responsible Government' statement to the pointedly right wing Pro-Life reference, shows their rightist agenda & political allegiance - something we need not forget to our own chagrin.

Lock him up.

(6,874 posts)
68. Let them help Joe Biden defeat the orange betrayer first.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:13 AM
Jul 2020

Then let them try to rebuild their ideology-driven party all they want.

Demographics ain't on their side anymore.

Lock him up!

Make Justice Great Again!!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
55. I agree, to a point. However:
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jun 2020

If TLP helps get rid of Pissolini, then I'm extremely thankful to them. He is an evil monster in every way.

If the Dems would have been producing such impactful media ages ago, we'd have far fewer RW monsters in power.

But aside from in the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" way, TLP is not our an ally to progressives.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
58. I really like TLP ads that are pure attacks against Donnie boy.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jun 2020

This one happens to promote several right wing memes in addition to the powerful and righteous attack on The tRumpster.

I guess I just feel uncomfortable by the over the top luv fest for the makers of the LP ads on a Democratic website. Their ads are great - but they will turn on progressives as soon as Joe is sworn in as President, if not before.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
71. Once again: These ads are not aimed at us. They are aimed at Republicans. TLP isn't wasting money...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

...on solidly blue states and it sure isn’t wasting money on persuading Democrats to not vote for Trump.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
45. Play in OĶ!! Make smug Inhofe watch it! And good ol boy Mitch!
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:00 PM
Jun 2020

Think Amy can make some deal to show it often in KY, use it vs Mitch?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. Brave soldier in this war, willing to be a target.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jun 2020

His wife is a physician also, and they have three young daughters.

“The only easy day was yesterday.” That’s a saying of the U.S. Navy’s Sea, Air, and Land Teams (SEALs). South Burlington resident Dan Barkhuff, a former SEAL, takes the saying seriously. ...

Dan Barkhuff has now embarked on another challenging quest. He is the founder and president of Veterans for Responsible Leadership (VFRL.org). “We started as a Facebook group for veterans of all services and all party affiliations frustrated by the election of Donald Trump and the implications for our democracy,” he explains, “Our goal in 2018 is to support two to four candidates who are veterans and have demonstrated integrity and civility.”

VFRL has incorporated as a super PAC and hired a web development team. Barkhuff is hopeful that the organization will triumph. “We believe there is nothing wrong with America that can’t be fixed by what is right with America,” he emphasizes, “and we aim to do it.”

Has Barkhuff taken on a Sisyphean task? Easy days may not be in his future, but that has never dissuaded him in the past.

https://www.vtcng.com/otherpapersbvt/community/neighbors/no-easy-days-barkhuff-creates-new-veterans-organization-and-pac/article_e6ac341e-601b-530b-9571-a09f410d6d02.html

They choose for good character and competence, not particular ideology. They're still small but have so far endorsed both Democratic and Republican candidates in various states who they feel are the kind of people who bring what's right with America to government.

https://www.themidpod.com/podcasts/ep-41-daniel-barkuff-president-of-veterans-for-responsible-leadership

OverBurn

(935 posts)
65. I see all these Lincoln Project ads on the internet? Wondering?
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jun 2020

Are they on TV? Just the Internet? I do not see any ads on TV here in Indy.

They are all brutal, Love them, more people need to see them.

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