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a kennedy

(29,658 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:00 PM Jul 2020

Anyone hear rumors that both Alito and Thomas might be leaving the bench??

(and I realize both articles are from conservative rags, but....... just asking.)

..... Justice Clarence Thomas, a conservative appointed by George H.W. Bush, is privately seen by Trump's aides as the most likely to retire this year. While Thomas has not given any indication of doing so, the White House and Senate Republicans are quietly preparing for a possible opening, according to a White House official and two outside Trump political advisers who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private conversations.
"If Thomas goes, you've got a lot of people around this process ready to support Thapar - and McConnell ready to move his favorite through," said one of the outside Trump political advisers, referring to Judge Amul Thapar of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit.


https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/Trump-supporters-hope-to-use-conservative-anger-15379138.php

......Conservative Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito may be eyeing retirement.

The "stronger rumor" is that Alito is "going to quit," conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt told Washington Post reporter Robert Costa on his show Wednesday.

He mentioned this in response to Costa's report that said aides to President Trump believe Clarence Thomas, a conservative justice appointed by President George H.W. Bush, is the justice most likely to retire this year.

"Justice Thomas will never quit," Hewitt added. Hewitt suggested he learned this rumor when "people begin working the refs" this time of year.

"I'm hardly a ref, but I got a column in the Washington Post, and so they start working me about, 'You know this person would be great if Alito quit,'" he said.

Alito, 70, was nominated to the high court by President George W. Bush in late 2005 to replace Associate Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. He was confirmed the next year

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hugh-hewitt-rumor-has-it-samuel-alito-will-retire-from-supreme-court
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Anyone hear rumors that both Alito and Thomas might be leaving the bench?? (Original Post) a kennedy Jul 2020 OP
Thomas - yes. Alito -- no. Mike 03 Jul 2020 #1
I agree leftieNanner Jul 2020 #4
Maybe I'm different, but records are important to me Polybius Jul 2020 #19
Cant imagine that. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #2
What's the dif to Thomas, where he falls asleep? 3Hotdogs Jul 2020 #10
Trump Isn't Going RobinA Jul 2020 #16
You can replace a justice whenever you want if you have the presidency and the Senate. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #28
No way in hell they could do it in 4 months. flying_wahini Jul 2020 #3
If Moscow Mitch wants it to happen, he would find a way leftieNanner Jul 2020 #5
I'm usually a pessimist about these things kairos12 Jul 2020 #23
Those endangered Senators might grow spines? leftieNanner Jul 2020 #24
I thought that we did not confirm a SCOTUS judge within six months of a Zoonart Jul 2020 #6
If McConnell follows his own rule, It has to be after the inauguration Captain Zero Jul 2020 #20
Time is the issue. I agree. Laelth Jul 2020 #7
Agreed, it's getting late BeyondGeography Jul 2020 #8
Hold their beer. Thunderbeast Jul 2020 #9
Romney wasn't there DarthDem Jul 2020 #11
Thanks for the correction. Thunderbeast Jul 2020 #13
Nah, Maybe Just Dock Their Pay an Hour or So DarthDem Jul 2020 #27
They could do it in a week if they wanted Amishman Jul 2020 #15
Getting to replace both Ginsberg and Thomas with liberal justices MIGHT make up for Merrick Garland. Music Man Jul 2020 #12
I Completely Agree RobinA Jul 2020 #18
With Trump or Pence in office? With McConnell running the Senate? Please gods, no. Hekate Jul 2020 #14
Won't surprise me actually, PRETZEL Jul 2020 #17
They are afraid Trump is hurting their party so much they won't get another chance for 20 years. cbdo2007 Jul 2020 #21
Thomas is already one of the worst Justices on the bench Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #22
THIS is what the rumors are about BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #25
This is the first phase in pressuring old conservative judges to retire before January 3. LonePirate Jul 2020 #26
Dems will need to rub it in Moscow Mitch's face that during an election year NO APPOINTMENTS onetexan Jul 2020 #30
This close to the election? Mitch won't do that? pwb Jul 2020 #29
This is RW trolling. yellowcanine Jul 2020 #31

leftieNanner

(15,091 posts)
4. I agree
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

If Thomas is thinking of retiring, now would be the time. He doesn't want to consider having to stay on the bench for another four - eight - or more years with a Democrat in the White House and Dem control of the Senate. Alito is a little bit younger.

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
19. Maybe I'm different, but records are important to me
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jul 2020

Thomas can shatter the record for longest serving Justice if he wants it, providing he stays healthy. He was only 43 when he took the bench.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. Cant imagine that.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jul 2020

Quit now so traitor and Moscow Mitch traitor can replace them with judges so far right that simply being a minority in America will mean you are not safe?

Moscow Mitch fantasizes about executing Women who dare have sex without his permission, so who knows...Barr has the same fantasy.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
16. Trump Isn't Going
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

to replace somebody at this point unless he gets reelected. Plus, I read somewhere where you can't replace a Supreme Court justice this close to an election, it wouldn't reflect "the will of the people."

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
28. You can replace a justice whenever you want if you have the presidency and the Senate.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jul 2020

Trying to make sure if we win long term, we can' change the court.

leftieNanner

(15,091 posts)
5. If Moscow Mitch wants it to happen, he would find a way
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jul 2020

Rush the nomination process through Lindsay's Committee and cram the person in.

He would even do it during the lame duck session after November.

Evil, evil man.

kairos12

(12,860 posts)
23. I'm usually a pessimist about these things
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jul 2020

but I think Moscow Mitch couldn't get 50 votes before the election.

leftieNanner

(15,091 posts)
24. Those endangered Senators might grow spines?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jul 2020

I guess it depends on what leverage MM has on them.

Hope you're right.

Zoonart

(11,863 posts)
6. I thought that we did not confirm a SCOTUS judge within six months of a
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jul 2020

Presidential election anyway... So there's that.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
7. Time is the issue. I agree.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

I think that these rumors may have had some currency earlier this year, but they’re dead in the water now.

-Laelth

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
8. Agreed, it's getting late
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

OTOH, they probably thought they had another term to play with until fairly recently. Now they’re faced with hanging on for four more years while the old liberal justices get to retire and be replaced by younger versions of themselves. Tough darts.

Thunderbeast

(3,408 posts)
9. Hold their beer.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jul 2020

It would be the fastest confirmation in history!

Once again, need to look for Collins, Romney, and Murkowski to stop a new appointment.

Not likely since they had no remorse for stealing the Garland seat and installing Gorsuch.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
11. Romney wasn't there
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jul 2020

Can't believe I'm defending him, but he is the only Repuglican with a spine these days, so . . . .

Spot on about the other two, though.

Thunderbeast

(3,408 posts)
13. Thanks for the correction.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jul 2020

My highly compensated staff of research assistants will now all be fired! (Add that sarcasm thingy here).

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
15. They could do it in a week if they wanted
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jul 2020

They can rewrite the senate procedures as they go and cut out anything to slow them, put it to a vote, get 50+ R votes, and done.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
12. Getting to replace both Ginsberg and Thomas with liberal justices MIGHT make up for Merrick Garland.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jul 2020

I swear, blocking Merrick Garland--an appointment that was Obama's right to make--was one of the most shameful acts I've ever seen in politics. I will never, ever get over it.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
17. Won't surprise me actually,
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

timing would be right since the current session just ended or just about to end.

Add that to the fears that RNC internal polling may be showing no way that they will hold the Senate come January,

Trump needs to find a way to change the subject and give him a campaign issue that his base can rally around,

Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were rammed down our throats, why not one more.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
21. They are afraid Trump is hurting their party so much they won't get another chance for 20 years.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jul 2020

So they want to get the last couple of ones in that they can in case the Dems sweep the next 4-5 elections due the damage Trump has done.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
22. Thomas is already one of the worst Justices on the bench
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jul 2020

I can't imagine his replacement would be any worse but Mitch will trip over himself to fill it if he retires even if there's only a month left in Trump's Presidency, even if he needs to hold hearings on Christmas Day.

BannonsLiver

(16,386 posts)
25. THIS is what the rumors are about
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jul 2020

This is an effort to dog whistle to GOP voters to motivate them to turn out and vote for Dump, even if they have lost enthusiasm for Dump, because the libs will put two justices on the bench if they don’t.

Hugh Hewitt floated the idea Alito will retire. Hugh doesn’t know anything. He’s amplifying the dog whistle. This whole charade couldn’t be more obvious.

Nobody’s retiring this year.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
26. This is the first phase in pressuring old conservative judges to retire before January 3.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:50 PM
Jul 2020

Moscow Mitch can still fill vacancies as long as he and 45 are in power. With SCOTUS vacancies announced in June/July, the clock is ticking on Alito and Thomas to resign so Republicans can replace them with an extremist instead of Biden replacing them after January.

Also, it is an admission that right wingers expect Biden to win and Dems winning control of the Senate.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
30. Dems will need to rub it in Moscow Mitch's face that during an election year NO APPOINTMENTS
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jul 2020

the same way they denied Merrick Garland.

pwb

(11,263 posts)
29. This close to the election? Mitch won't do that?
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jul 2020

Oh wait that is only for democratic Presidents. Sorry I was thinking fairness, my bad.

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