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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere aren't many stories that render me speechless. This is one of them.
Republican Lawmakers Said They Were Forced To Go Along With Trumps Ways Or Face Retirement
After a rather telling interview with the New York Times, it was revealed that both past and present Republican lawmakers are and have been so deeply under the thumb of Donald Trump that they have virtually no choice but to go along with whatever hair-brained, manic, and unhinged policy Trump has laid on the table that day or face his ire and consider an early retirement.
Per the Times report, Just under four years after he began his takeover of a party to which he had little connection, Mr. Trump enters 2020 burdened with the ignominy of being the first sitting president to seek re-election after being impeached, continuing, But he does so wearing a political coat of armor built on total loyalty from G.O.P. activists and their representatives in Congress. If he does not enjoy the broad admiration Republicans afforded Ronald Reagan, he is more feared by his partys lawmakers than any occupant of the Oval Office since at least Lyndon Johnson.
One former GOP lawmaker admitted that he was personally faced with the quandary of bucking Donald Trump back in 2017 and knew full well the consequences he would face if he decided to do so.
By the summer of 2017, Dave Trott, a two-term Republican congressman, was worried enough about President Trumps erratic behavior and his flailing attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act that he criticized the president in a closed-door meeting with fellow G.O.P. lawmakers, the report reads. The response was instantaneous but had nothing to do with the substance of Mr. Trotts concerns. Dave, you need to know somebody has already told the White House what you said, he recalled a colleague telling him. Be ready for a barrage of tweets.'
The ex-lawmaker revealed that he chose not to run for reelection, explaining, If I was still there and speaking out against the president, what would happen to me?
Trott is far from the only GOP lawmaker who has faced the nearly impossible conundrum of being a Republican who doesnt agree with Donald Trump.
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chia
(2,244 posts)Mossfern
(2,486 posts)and refused to back down or act on his requests for ethical reasons. I told my husband that I was going to be fired for that.
I needed to be able to look at myself in the mirror and not be disgusted by the image reflected.
I was fired.
I lived.
I can look in the mirror.
chia
(2,244 posts)willing to stand up like you did. If even a few dozen had stood up to Trump... we did get a few and they did get fired, but like you, they can look in the mirror. Thank you for doing what was hard but what was right. We have so many cowards who couldn't do it.
Mossfern
(2,486 posts)it doesn't really feel like courage if you're just doing the right thing.
It's merely the way I was raised.
japple
(9,821 posts)GOP members of Congress and that idiot tRUMP. They have none. You should be proud that you stuck to yours.
erronis
(15,241 posts)I have a sister who fought bureaucracy frequently - sexism and good-ole-boys. She won but at a cost each time.
I don't really understand people like senators and other representatives being so weak that they can't take a stand. It shows that they aren't good people underneath it all. Poor choices as our leaders.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,748 posts)Yes, I admire your courage.
Mossfern
(2,486 posts)by the same administration. I had been the Director of Environmental Affairs for my county, they offered me a job as an Employment Specialist for the Welfare to Work program thinking I would refuse the position at a considerably lower salary. I accepted and took the Civil Service exam for the position, was able to help so many people and found myself loving social services.
I was still considered a 'trouble maker' though - but that's another story. I treasure the thank you notes from my clients more than all the gold in the world!
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,748 posts)What a badge of honor!
AZ8theist
(5,456 posts)To be afraid of a TRAITOROUS COWARD like Doturd? Give me a break.
You could have gotten rid of him FOREVER when he was impeached. YOU. DID. NOTHING. FUCK YOU ALL.
dchill
(38,472 posts)onetexan
(13,036 posts)UpInArms
(51,280 posts)I hate the freaking cowards ....
Afraid of a lying psychopathic tweeter ...
🤦🏽?♀️
malaise
(268,931 posts)They swore to defend the Constitution not the Con.
Watch them jump ship now - it will be in droves soon and very soon.
grumpyduck
(6,232 posts)malaise
(268,931 posts)winning elections is more important than that oath.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Once you jump you'll probably say "Well this isn't so bad."
I just hope that the country remembers your cowardice and evil acts and punishes you appropriately.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)Think of yourself as an American first and a Republican second. Then govern yourself accordingly. If it costs you your seat, then you could go down swinging knowing you did the right thing for your Country.
Oh, who am I kidding.
Goodheart
(5,321 posts)For years they applauded the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, won elections based upon fear and prejudice, and then trump came along as a natural progression: somebody who outdid them all with spurious and hate-filled sloganizing, simple-minded dogma, and shameless pandering.
alwaysinasnit
(5,065 posts)cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)The only way to take the wind from his sails is an outright refusal by any republican to have anything more to do with his shit.
But they refuse to do it, so they are complicit and therefore, criminal.
They get what they deserve and they deserve nothing but rancor and bile.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)Walleye
(31,008 posts)Sickening
This describes some governors too.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)it's the reaction by their constituents to the Tweet - if they're in a heavily Trump leaning district/state they run the risk of losing their seat, or in some cases being shunned by equally cowardly Republicans.
In essence they're afraid of the MAGAts who will blindly follow their leader no matter how utterly ridiculous he may be.
In reality though, they probably have a lot less to fear than they think they do, as Trump's track record of his endorsed candidates isn't particularly good.
Walleye
(31,008 posts)Who was worried about constituents reaction: Educate them. Of course I realize that this is impossible with most of the trump cult. But its what leadership is supposed to be.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)But the trouble for Republican reps is exactly what you mentioned - Trump voters simply cannot be educated or reasoned with.
grumpyduck
(6,232 posts)these people are all basically cowards afraid of a bully. More interested in keeping their office than in serving their country. Afraid of Tweetstorms (which says a lot about Twitter itself).
How the hell did such a bunch of spineless cowardly losers make it this far in life, never mind to Congress?
Thanks a lot, Twitter. Fuck you.
Dan
(3,550 posts)Should be asking.
How can these people be our leaders when they are afraid of a tweet?
Who do they represent - themselves or our nation?
What does the oath of office mean to them, if anything?
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)a kindred spirit. Those Republicans have really embraced this nut.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)And didnt.
So they are spineless weasels all of them.
delisen
(6,042 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)which has been in short supply in Repub ranks lately.
delisen
(6,042 posts)I consider the Health Directors who have quit to have integrity. People have to weigh decisions such as these individually.
In general however I have not found much to admire among Republican office holders in DC.
orwell
(7,771 posts)...the party that constantly espouses the failure of all forms of government and the nobility of the "rugged individualist" achieving dreams in the "private sector" is filled with cowards who are afraid of losing their government job.
What a bunch of cons.
Poor little snowflakes...
Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)yet they take no responsibility for their actions.
Faux pas
(14,667 posts)have always been spineless.
2naSalit
(86,537 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)when you dance to the music, you have to pay the piper. When you can't pay, you owe, and there's no way out.
mahina
(17,646 posts)LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)moral courage to speak up?
None. Disgusting traitors. Saving a lobbying position for themselves when their time is done in Congress.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)to screw things up again.
Not that I don't trust them to "act responsibly" or something.
Sounds like they're set to toss Trumpism under the bus for a while.
sop
(10,156 posts)These Republican cowards should have rebelled en masse. Now, after suffering humiliation after humiliation for the last four years, they'll still go down with Trump.
(The correct quotation is "Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once" - Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, Act 2 Scene 2)
JHB
(37,158 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)*bursts into tears at thought*
Tracer
(2,769 posts)Look at all the dems who have been insulted and tweeted at by Mr. Stupid!
Has it made them cower in the basement? Run away screaming and crying? Of course not.
So it has to be something else. I just think they are so ideologically locked into their "conservative" ideas that they weigh the pluses (reelection, tax $$$, regulation elimination, abortion etc. etc) and just say "Yes, Mr. Stupid. Anything at all Mr. Stupid. Kick me harder Mr. Stupid".
They like to blame red don for intimidating them into going along but they WANT what he's doing. And, any puke president would have done the same policy changes--destroy regulations, enact massive tax cuts, etc. The party was primed for it.
They just wish there was less treason.
Goodheart
(5,321 posts)Except for racism he doesn't even share their values! He doesn't employ their principles, only their devices.
He only cares about himself.
So even when everybody recognizes that he's an appalling human being they have to feign some sort of pride in standing with him, when he's not really standing there himself.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,996 posts)llmart
(15,536 posts)is that some of them will lose their jobs anyway because he didn't stand up to Hair Furor.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,996 posts)spanone
(135,823 posts)irisblue
(32,968 posts)erronis
(15,241 posts)the election and to drive wedges between the people.
Don't blame trump "for he knows not what he has done". He is a grimy, sleazy, disgusting pawn in the hands of putin and others.
When trump is put out to his stable pasture, make sure his Wall is tall enough to keep him (and family, etc.) enclosed forever. Throw some budgers and fake-shakes over once a week. Wait until the stench indicates that the crew inside is "all done."
progressoid
(49,978 posts)I'm shocked. Shocked, I tells ya.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)that they are elected to REPRESENT their constituents, not the bloated ass in the WH. Let them reveal themselves for the cowards they are, so their constituents can elect others with BALLS. So even in a group they still cowered from King Don the Con? Obviously these people ran for office for all the wrong reasons. This does not explain why the group of gop politicians spent last July 4th in Moscow visiting Vlad. Did tRump demand that they go? Yeah, right.
nykym
(3,063 posts)there is strength in numbers.
Amy-Strange
(854 posts)-
as a result, never won a primary, because democrats aren't stupid, but guess what?
Many republicans were THAT stupid.
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PaulRevere08
(449 posts)of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"? If all it takes is a mean tweet to get you to go back on your oath then maybe you shouldn't take it in the first place.
Ponietz
(2,961 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,110 posts)He was a leader who had the capability to garner a challenge. He opted for the easier but rife with guilt way.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)How many Senators are millionaires?
Somehow, Congresspeople manage to make lots of money while in office, and no one wants to give up the gravy train.
Power is another thing. It's incredibly seductive - and the closer you get to the magnetic center of Power, the more you can't bear to part with it.
There is no reason to expect that today's Republicans are interested in policy or governing. Obviously, they're not about to choose principle over party or position - they were never in government to act on principles in the first place.
That's why they're Republicans.
aggiesal
(8,911 posts)These guys would melt in temperatures below 32 degrees (F).
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Go fucking home and cry like a loser without a spine!
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)Where?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)He is already acting like one.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)He is already acting like one.
pwb
(11,261 posts)They are caught, they are with him, they were with him and the smiles while lying doesn't work anymore.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)Are all the voters Magats?
McKim
(2,412 posts)Really? They have enough money to retire in style with lifetime healthcare. It is rather that they could not give up their power that kept them from leaving and telling all. What cowards!!!!! Was idiots!!!!
Arger68
(679 posts)in this situation? Apparently they don't love their country enough to sacrifice their political careers for a dictator wannabe. How many Democratic senators and representatives voted for Obamacare knowing it could cost them their seat??
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)Get souls to the polls and liberate ourselves and all.
I know we are all tired, but gaze upon the little children in your lives, draw inspiration, and summon strength.
To all:
patphil
(6,169 posts)This is more true for Republicans than Democrats, but no party is immune to this.
Once elected, these people see their seat as belonging to them, and proceed accordingly.
As time goes on, they become less and less interested in their constituents and more concerned about maintaining their position.
Of course when a self serving person like Trump gets into a position of, what he believes is, absolute power, he lets all of his party members know it.
All Republican congressmen, and even governors, are expected to give obeisance to the all powerful Trump.
Those who don't will feel his wrath, which means being primaried by a sycophant who has Trump's blessing. Bucking Trump has turned into a career ending decision.
It's rare that a Republican will make that decision, and it almost always has been seen to be a fatal mistake.
If any Republican legislator is ready to stand against Trump, it won't happen until after the primary for their office is held, and they have the nomination safely in their pocket.
Then Trump has to decide if it's better to punish the transgressor and risk a loss of the seat, or let it slid for the time being.
I don't expect to see many, if any, Republican legislators take that path.
Lonestarblue
(9,974 posts)I know I do not understand the loyalty that Trumps supporters continue to show him. Trump has more control over his voters than any president I have ever observed. Their absolute adoration of him, even today after months of basically doing nothing but creating chaos in the country mystifies me. I know his racism, his ignorance, his nastiness, his vindictiveness, and his sheer meanness and cruelty appeal to his people, but why would his tweets make voters turn on other people theyve elected? But they would and did. Thats why Jeff Flake, a fairly popular Senator, retired.
I guess the point Im trying to make, and maybe not very clearly (😀 is that Trump has a connection to his voters that cannot be broken by other Republicans and they know that to cross him means the end of careers. Trump seems more like a mafia boss than a president. He takes care of his family so long as they swear undying allegiance and never dare criticize him. Cross him, and your death is assured.
All of us here have wondered with every poll how Trumps approvals have remained near 40% because we see his actions as horrible and damaging to the country. But were it not for the pandemic that burst a bubble for at least some of his less rabid supporters and provided a major hit on the economy, Trump would still be enjoying good ratings. I have no understanding whatsoever of his powerful hold over people who think he is fantastic. That hold is irrational to me, but can anyone think of another politician who has inspired this cult-like worship by a significant slice of our population? His cult certainly never worshipped Bush as they worship Trump.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)I think the Faux News, right wing media echo chamber play some factor here .. but there is no question that there is a slavishness and blind cultish like quality to his support. It's quite unlike anything we've seen before. (IMO)
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)NBachers
(17,107 posts)They're all caked with trump's shit. And they won't stop applying it.
They're scared of one disintegrating, disfunctional bully, but they have no loyalty to the nation of people they allegedly represent?
We're living in a fecalocracy.
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Skittles
(153,150 posts)FUCKING COWARDS
Cha
(297,154 posts)SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)BComplex
(8,036 posts)Lyndon Johnson.
And it was after Johnson that the Democratic party started losing power. I hope it's the same for the republican party now that those cowards have supported trump.
calimary
(81,220 posts)And what really gets me is - when you get right down to it, theyre afraid of a TWEET.
A TWEET!!!!
Just roll that around in your mind for a minute. And on your tongue.
Theyre afraid of a fucking damn TWEET.
Good grief... how pathetic.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)anyway, so if they lost their elections, big fucking deal.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)This is the hooker they paid for. They kinda dont get to complain about being overcharged.