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CatWoman

(79,295 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:07 PM Jul 2020

There aren't many stories that render me speechless. This is one of them.

Republican Lawmakers Said They Were Forced To Go Along With Trump’s Ways Or Face Retirement

After a rather telling interview with the New York Times, it was revealed that both past and present Republican lawmakers are and have been so deeply under the thumb of Donald Trump that they have virtually no choice but to go along with whatever hair-brained, manic, and unhinged policy Trump has laid on the table that day — or face his ire and consider an early retirement.

Per the Times report, “Just under four years after he began his takeover of a party to which he had little connection, Mr. Trump enters 2020 burdened with the ignominy of being the first sitting president to seek re-election after being impeached,” continuing, “But he does so wearing a political coat of armor built on total loyalty from G.O.P. activists and their representatives in Congress. If he does not enjoy the broad admiration Republicans afforded Ronald Reagan, he is more feared by his party’s lawmakers than any occupant of the Oval Office since at least Lyndon Johnson.”

One former GOP lawmaker admitted that he was personally faced with the quandary of bucking Donald Trump back in 2017 and knew full well the consequences he would face if he decided to do so.

“By the summer of 2017, Dave Trott, a two-term Republican congressman, was worried enough about President Trump’s erratic behavior and his flailing attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act that he criticized the president in a closed-door meeting with fellow G.O.P. lawmakers,” the report reads. “The response was instantaneous — but had nothing to do with the substance of Mr. Trott’s concerns. ‘Dave, you need to know somebody has already told the White House what you said,’ he recalled a colleague telling him. ‘Be ready for a barrage of tweets.'”

The ex-lawmaker revealed that he chose not to run for reelection, explaining, “If I was still there and speaking out against the president, what would happen to me?”

Trott is far from the only GOP lawmaker who has faced the nearly impossible conundrum of being a Republican who doesn’t agree with Donald Trump.

https://politicaltribune.org/republican-lawmakers-said-they-were-forced-to-go-along-with-trumps-ways-or-face-retirement/?fbclid=IwAR2_3qD33m4NwjlBPjFzRln5_0NnZbiKcUcP24s74RSbcu-U91Syx8fjo0E

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There aren't many stories that render me speechless. This is one of them. (Original Post) CatWoman Jul 2020 OP
Where is their courage? chia Jul 2020 #1
I had a disagreement with my boss (government) Mossfern Jul 2020 #7
I salute you for your courage, you are amazing, wish there'd been enough in this administration chia Jul 2020 #15
Thank you, but Mossfern Jul 2020 #22
Principles. That is what you have that separates you, and people like you, from the japple Jul 2020 #60
Congratulations on your ethics and moral courage. In the end we have to live with ourselves. erronis Jul 2020 #37
Did you find a new job right away? Sucha NastyWoman Jul 2020 #65
I was given a different job Mossfern Jul 2020 #76
Troublemaker Sucha NastyWoman Jul 2020 #78
Spineless fucking worms, every single one of them. AZ8theist Jul 2020 #49
Yes. Exactly this. dchill Jul 2020 #70
Therein lies the problem - GOP lawmakers have none. They're all spineless. onetexan Jul 2020 #53
Death by tweet? UpInArms Jul 2020 #2
Fuck them all malaise Jul 2020 #3
Only to try to save face. grumpyduck Jul 2020 #10
They have stated it implicitly and explicitly malaise Jul 2020 #34
They'll jump when a few others have jumped. Afraid of the water, boys? Or the sharks? erronis Jul 2020 #41
They could try this simple excercise genxlib Jul 2020 #4
A monster of their own creation Goodheart Jul 2020 #5
+1000 alwaysinasnit Jul 2020 #29
If they all turned their back on him and called him out at once he would shrivel. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #6
+1 fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #19
Grown-ass men, afraid of little tweets. Walleye Jul 2020 #8
Well put. Mike 03 Jul 2020 #11
It's not the Tweet that they're afraid of per se HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #85
Nancy Pelosi once told one of her members Walleye Jul 2020 #86
Absolutely. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #87
So according to the full article and the referenced one, grumpyduck Jul 2020 #9
This is the question that every American Dan Jul 2020 #54
The tea party were going away and losing all power when he was elected they found redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #12
And yet they had the chance to FIRE him through impeachment SoonerPride Jul 2020 #13
but Twitter is used with the intent to ruin so I do not find it surprising nt delisen Jul 2020 #27
That should be an easy choice for anybody with integrity... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #14
Health directors have been quitting due to receiving threats delisen Jul 2020 #30
So let me get this straight... orwell Jul 2020 #16
They also claim to be the party of responsibility Sanity Claws Jul 2020 #72
They Faux pas Jul 2020 #17
Not surprised at all. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #18
I think that's called.. stillcool Jul 2020 #20
We watched this in real time. mahina Jul 2020 #21
And have said the entire time, who among them has the LuckyLib Jul 2020 #73
So now they're gonna hunker down, lay low, wait for another opportunity... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #23
As always, ETTD: "A coward dies a thousand deaths, but a brave man dies but once." sop Jul 2020 #24
Spoken like a true apparatchik JHB Jul 2020 #25
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #26
The whole party, minus Romney (sometimes), are nothing but yellow bellied cowards. GemDigger Jul 2020 #28
"What if 'People are saying. Many many. Very. So unfair!' What then? Eeeek!" struggle4progress Jul 2020 #31
Afraid of tweets? I can't believe that. Tracer Jul 2020 #32
Yep. not fooled Jul 2020 #63
The biggest irony in all this? Goodheart Jul 2020 #33
+1 . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #38
An even bigger irony... llmart Jul 2020 #74
Cowardly weak bastards. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #35
Republicons fear mob rule (BLM etc). So they chose Mob rule (Russ mafia, tRump, Putin, cult). . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #36
Sounds like a cop out to me. spanone Jul 2020 #39
The NYT article irisblue Jul 2020 #40
All this country needed were a few "nudges" from a foreign (perhaps locals) despot to influence erronis Jul 2020 #42
So they have no moral backbone at all. progressoid Jul 2020 #43
They need to be reminded Scarsdale Jul 2020 #44
I guess no one ever told them nykym Jul 2020 #45
Remember, he once was a democrat, and... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #46
WTF did he take the oath "I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution PaulRevere08 Jul 2020 #47
The stench of shame and disgrace Ponietz Jul 2020 #48
Paul Ryan. deserter. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2020 #50
They won't leave because they are addicted to money and power. scarletwoman Jul 2020 #51
I'm sorry, but who's the snowflakes? ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #52
Weak assholes... BlueJac Jul 2020 #55
"Land of the brave"? world wide wally Jul 2020 #56
Trump doesn't have to declare himself as a Dictator yuiyoshida Jul 2020 #57
Trump doesn't have to declare himself as a Dictator yuiyoshida Jul 2020 #58
Big talk, fake tough all of them. pwb Jul 2020 #59
Why are his tweets such a threat? wryter2000 Jul 2020 #61
Really!!!! They Have Enough Money to Retire!!!!! McKim Jul 2020 #62
So what would a real patriot do Arger68 Jul 2020 #64
This, my dears, is an admission that they are beneath the sway of a CULT. Let's vanquish it. slumcamper Jul 2020 #66
Too many politicians see their political career as service to themselves. patphil Jul 2020 #67
Not defending Republicans, but I think no one truly understands why Trump inspires a cult. Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #68
every word true. stopdiggin Jul 2020 #80
Worms have more character. zentrum Jul 2020 #69
He keeps demanding, "Cover yourselves with my shit," they keep rubbing it all over themselves. NBachers Jul 2020 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #75
cowards Skittles Jul 2020 #77
KR.. sigh. Cha Jul 2020 #79
fuck these GOP hacks! you reap what you sow, dipshits SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #81
"he is more feared by his party's lawmakers than any occupant of the Oval Office since at least BComplex Jul 2020 #82
Pathetic. calimary Jul 2020 #83
Boohoo, find some fucking spines and stand up to him! Most of these guys are millionaires Luciferous Jul 2020 #84
I guess I get it, BUT ALSO,... Volaris Jul 2020 #88

Mossfern

(2,486 posts)
7. I had a disagreement with my boss (government)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jul 2020

and refused to back down or act on his requests for ethical reasons. I told my husband that I was going to be fired for that.
I needed to be able to look at myself in the mirror and not be disgusted by the image reflected.

I was fired.
I lived.
I can look in the mirror.

chia

(2,244 posts)
15. I salute you for your courage, you are amazing, wish there'd been enough in this administration
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jul 2020

willing to stand up like you did. If even a few dozen had stood up to Trump... we did get a few and they did get fired, but like you, they can look in the mirror. Thank you for doing what was hard but what was right. We have so many cowards who couldn't do it.

Mossfern

(2,486 posts)
22. Thank you, but
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:51 PM
Jul 2020

it doesn't really feel like courage if you're just doing the right thing.
It's merely the way I was raised.

japple

(9,821 posts)
60. Principles. That is what you have that separates you, and people like you, from the
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jul 2020

GOP members of Congress and that idiot tRUMP. They have none. You should be proud that you stuck to yours.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
37. Congratulations on your ethics and moral courage. In the end we have to live with ourselves.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jul 2020

I have a sister who fought bureaucracy frequently - sexism and good-ole-boys. She won but at a cost each time.

I don't really understand people like senators and other representatives being so weak that they can't take a stand. It shows that they aren't good people underneath it all. Poor choices as our leaders.

Mossfern

(2,486 posts)
76. I was given a different job
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jul 2020

by the same administration. I had been the Director of Environmental Affairs for my county, they offered me a job as an Employment Specialist for the Welfare to Work program thinking I would refuse the position at a considerably lower salary. I accepted and took the Civil Service exam for the position, was able to help so many people and found myself loving social services.
I was still considered a 'trouble maker' though - but that's another story. I treasure the thank you notes from my clients more than all the gold in the world!

AZ8theist

(5,456 posts)
49. Spineless fucking worms, every single one of them.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jul 2020

To be afraid of a TRAITOROUS COWARD like Doturd? Give me a break.
You could have gotten rid of him FOREVER when he was impeached. YOU. DID. NOTHING. FUCK YOU ALL.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
2. Death by tweet?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jul 2020

I hate the freaking cowards ....

Afraid of a lying psychopathic tweeter ...

🤦🏽?♀️

malaise

(268,931 posts)
3. Fuck them all
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jul 2020

They swore to defend the Constitution not the Con.
Watch them jump ship now - it will be in droves soon and very soon.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
41. They'll jump when a few others have jumped. Afraid of the water, boys? Or the sharks?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jul 2020

Once you jump you'll probably say "Well this isn't so bad."

I just hope that the country remembers your cowardice and evil acts and punishes you appropriately.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
4. They could try this simple excercise
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jul 2020

Think of yourself as an American first and a Republican second. Then govern yourself accordingly. If it costs you your seat, then you could go down swinging knowing you did the right thing for your Country.

Oh, who am I kidding.

Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
5. A monster of their own creation
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jul 2020

For years they applauded the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, won elections based upon fear and prejudice, and then trump came along as a natural progression: somebody who outdid them all with spurious and hate-filled sloganizing, simple-minded dogma, and shameless pandering.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
6. If they all turned their back on him and called him out at once he would shrivel.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jul 2020

The only way to take the wind from his sails is an outright refusal by any republican to have anything more to do with his shit.

But they refuse to do it, so they are complicit and therefore, criminal.

They get what they deserve and they deserve nothing but rancor and bile.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
85. It's not the Tweet that they're afraid of per se
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jul 2020

it's the reaction by their constituents to the Tweet - if they're in a heavily Trump leaning district/state they run the risk of losing their seat, or in some cases being shunned by equally cowardly Republicans.

In essence they're afraid of the MAGAts who will blindly follow their leader no matter how utterly ridiculous he may be.

In reality though, they probably have a lot less to fear than they think they do, as Trump's track record of his endorsed candidates isn't particularly good.

Walleye

(31,008 posts)
86. Nancy Pelosi once told one of her members
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

Who was worried about constituents’ reaction: “Educate them.” Of course I realize that this is impossible with most of the trump cult. But it’s what leadership is supposed to be.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
87. Absolutely.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jul 2020

But the trouble for Republican reps is exactly what you mentioned - Trump voters simply cannot be educated or reasoned with.

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
9. So according to the full article and the referenced one,
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jul 2020

these people are all basically cowards afraid of a bully. More interested in keeping their office than in serving their country. Afraid of Tweetstorms (which says a lot about Twitter itself).

How the hell did such a bunch of spineless cowardly losers make it this far in life, never mind to Congress?

Thanks a lot, Twitter. Fuck you.

Dan

(3,550 posts)
54. This is the question that every American
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jul 2020

Should be asking.

How can these people be our leaders when they are afraid of a tweet?

Who do they represent - themselves or our nation?

What does the oath of office mean to them, if anything?

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
12. The tea party were going away and losing all power when he was elected they found
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020

a kindred spirit. Those Republicans have really embraced this nut.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
13. And yet they had the chance to FIRE him through impeachment
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

And didn’t.

So they are spineless weasels all of them.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
14. That should be an easy choice for anybody with integrity...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jul 2020

which has been in short supply in Repub ranks lately.

delisen

(6,042 posts)
30. Health directors have been quitting due to receiving threats
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jul 2020

I consider the Health Directors who have quit to have integrity. People have to weigh decisions such as these individually.

In general however I have not found much to admire among Republican office holders in DC.

orwell

(7,771 posts)
16. So let me get this straight...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jul 2020

...the party that constantly espouses the failure of all forms of government and the nobility of the "rugged individualist" achieving dreams in the "private sector" is filled with cowards who are afraid of losing their government job.

What a bunch of cons.

Poor little snowflakes...

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
72. They also claim to be the party of responsibility
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jul 2020

yet they take no responsibility for their actions.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
20. I think that's called..
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jul 2020

when you dance to the music, you have to pay the piper. When you can't pay, you owe, and there's no way out.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
73. And have said the entire time, who among them has the
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jul 2020

moral courage to speak up?

None. Disgusting traitors. Saving a lobbying position for themselves when their time is done in Congress.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
23. So now they're gonna hunker down, lay low, wait for another opportunity...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jul 2020

to screw things up again.

Not that I don't trust them to "act responsibly" or something.

Sounds like they're set to toss Trumpism under the bus for a while.

sop

(10,156 posts)
24. As always, ETTD: "A coward dies a thousand deaths, but a brave man dies but once."
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 02:57 PM
Jul 2020

These Republican cowards should have rebelled en masse. Now, after suffering humiliation after humiliation for the last four years, they'll still go down with Trump.

(The correct quotation is "Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once" - Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, Act 2 Scene 2)

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
31. "What if 'People are saying. Many many. Very. So unfair!' What then? Eeeek!"
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jul 2020

*bursts into tears at thought*

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
32. Afraid of tweets? I can't believe that.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jul 2020

Look at all the dems who have been insulted and tweeted at by Mr. Stupid!

Has it made them cower in the basement? Run away screaming and crying? Of course not.

So it has to be something else. I just think they are so ideologically locked into their "conservative" ideas that they weigh the pluses (reelection, tax $$$, regulation elimination, abortion etc. etc) and just say "Yes, Mr. Stupid. Anything at all Mr. Stupid. Kick me harder Mr. Stupid".

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
63. Yep.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jul 2020

They like to blame red don for intimidating them into going along but they WANT what he's doing. And, any puke president would have done the same policy changes--destroy regulations, enact massive tax cuts, etc. The party was primed for it.

They just wish there was less treason.


Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
33. The biggest irony in all this?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jul 2020

Except for racism he doesn't even share their values! He doesn't employ their principles, only their devices.

He only cares about himself.

So even when everybody recognizes that he's an appalling human being they have to feign some sort of pride in standing with him, when he's not really standing there himself.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
74. An even bigger irony...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jul 2020

is that some of them will lose their jobs anyway because he didn't stand up to Hair Furor.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
42. All this country needed were a few "nudges" from a foreign (perhaps locals) despot to influence
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jul 2020

the election and to drive wedges between the people.

Don't blame trump "for he knows not what he has done". He is a grimy, sleazy, disgusting pawn in the hands of putin and others.

When trump is put out to his stable pasture, make sure his Wall is tall enough to keep him (and family, etc.) enclosed forever. Throw some budgers and fake-shakes over once a week. Wait until the stench indicates that the crew inside is "all done."

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
44. They need to be reminded
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jul 2020

that they are elected to REPRESENT their constituents, not the bloated ass in the WH. Let them reveal themselves for the cowards they are, so their constituents can elect others with BALLS. So even in a group they still cowered from King Don the Con? Obviously these people ran for office for all the wrong reasons. This does not explain why the group of gop politicians spent last July 4th in Moscow visiting Vlad. Did tRump demand that they go? Yeah, right.

Amy-Strange

(854 posts)
46. Remember, he once was a democrat, and...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

-

as a result, never won a primary, because democrats aren't stupid, but guess what?

Many republicans were THAT stupid.
==========

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
47. WTF did he take the oath "I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"? If all it takes is a mean tweet to get you to go back on your oath then maybe you shouldn't take it in the first place.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
50. Paul Ryan. deserter.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jul 2020

He was a leader who had the capability to garner a challenge. He opted for the easier but rife with guilt way.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
51. They won't leave because they are addicted to money and power.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jul 2020

How many Senators are millionaires?

Somehow, Congresspeople manage to make lots of money while in office, and no one wants to give up the gravy train.

Power is another thing. It's incredibly seductive - and the closer you get to the magnetic center of Power, the more you can't bear to part with it.

There is no reason to expect that today's Republicans are interested in policy or governing. Obviously, they're not about to choose principle over party or position - they were never in government to act on principles in the first place.

That's why they're Republicans.

pwb

(11,261 posts)
59. Big talk, fake tough all of them.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jul 2020

They are caught, they are with him, they were with him and the smiles while lying doesn't work anymore.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
62. Really!!!! They Have Enough Money to Retire!!!!!
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jul 2020

Really? They have enough money to retire in style with lifetime healthcare. It is rather that they could not give up their power that kept them from leaving and telling all. What cowards!!!!! Was idiots!!!!

Arger68

(679 posts)
64. So what would a real patriot do
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:45 PM
Jul 2020

in this situation? Apparently they don't love their country enough to sacrifice their political careers for a dictator wannabe. How many Democratic senators and representatives voted for Obamacare knowing it could cost them their seat??

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
66. This, my dears, is an admission that they are beneath the sway of a CULT. Let's vanquish it.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jul 2020

Get souls to the polls and liberate ourselves and all.

I know we are all tired, but gaze upon the little children in your lives, draw inspiration, and summon strength.

To all:

patphil

(6,169 posts)
67. Too many politicians see their political career as service to themselves.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:54 PM
Jul 2020

This is more true for Republicans than Democrats, but no party is immune to this.

Once elected, these people see their seat as belonging to them, and proceed accordingly.
As time goes on, they become less and less interested in their constituents and more concerned about maintaining their position.

Of course when a self serving person like Trump gets into a position of, what he believes is, absolute power, he lets all of his party members know it.
All Republican congressmen, and even governors, are expected to give obeisance to the all powerful Trump.
Those who don't will feel his wrath, which means being primaried by a sycophant who has Trump's blessing. Bucking Trump has turned into a career ending decision.

It's rare that a Republican will make that decision, and it almost always has been seen to be a fatal mistake.

If any Republican legislator is ready to stand against Trump, it won't happen until after the primary for their office is held, and they have the nomination safely in their pocket.
Then Trump has to decide if it's better to punish the transgressor and risk a loss of the seat, or let it slid for the time being.

I don't expect to see many, if any, Republican legislators take that path.

Lonestarblue

(9,974 posts)
68. Not defending Republicans, but I think no one truly understands why Trump inspires a cult.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jul 2020

I know I do not understand the loyalty that Trump’s supporters continue to show him. Trump has more control over his voters than any president I have ever observed. Their absolute adoration of him, even today after months of basically doing nothing but creating chaos in the country mystifies me. I know his racism, his ignorance, his nastiness, his vindictiveness, and his sheer meanness and cruelty appeal to his people, but why would his tweets make voters turn on other people they’ve elected? But they would and did. That’s why Jeff Flake, a fairly popular Senator, retired.

I guess the point I’m trying to make, and maybe not very clearly (😀 is that Trump has a connection to his voters that cannot be broken by other Republicans and they know that to cross him means the end of careers. Trump seems more like a mafia boss than a president. He takes care of his “family” so long as they swear undying allegiance and never dare criticize him. Cross him, and your death is assured.

All of us here have wondered with every poll how Trump’s approvals have remained near 40% because we see his actions as horrible and damaging to the country. But were it not for the pandemic that burst a bubble for at least some of his less rabid supporters and provided a major hit on the economy, Trump would still be enjoying good ratings. I have no understanding whatsoever of his powerful hold over people who think he is fantastic. That hold is irrational to me, but can anyone think of another politician who has inspired this cult-like worship by a significant slice of our population? His cult certainly never worshipped Bush as they worship Trump.

stopdiggin

(11,296 posts)
80. every word true.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 01:30 AM
Jul 2020

I think the Faux News, right wing media echo chamber play some factor here .. but there is no question that there is a slavishness and blind cultish like quality to his support. It's quite unlike anything we've seen before. (IMO)

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NBachers

(17,107 posts)
71. He keeps demanding, "Cover yourselves with my shit," they keep rubbing it all over themselves.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jul 2020

They're all caked with trump's shit. And they won't stop applying it.

They're scared of one disintegrating, disfunctional bully, but they have no loyalty to the nation of people they allegedly represent?

We're living in a fecalocracy.

Response to CatWoman (Original post)

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
82. "he is more feared by his party's lawmakers than any occupant of the Oval Office since at least
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jul 2020

Lyndon Johnson.”

And it was after Johnson that the Democratic party started losing power. I hope it's the same for the republican party now that those cowards have supported trump.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
83. Pathetic.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jul 2020

And what really gets me is - when you get right down to it, they’re afraid of a TWEET.

A TWEET!!!!

Just roll that around in your mind for a minute. And on your tongue.

They’re afraid of a fucking damn TWEET.

Good grief... how pathetic.

Luciferous

(6,078 posts)
84. Boohoo, find some fucking spines and stand up to him! Most of these guys are millionaires
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 10:34 AM
Jul 2020

anyway, so if they lost their elections, big fucking deal.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
88. I guess I get it, BUT ALSO,...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

This is the hooker they paid for. They kinda dont get to complain about being overcharged.

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