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lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 04:59 PM Jul 2020

Help me educate my 8 year old granddaughter on race, please

She has friends of color, and the topic of race, per se, hasn't come up in any detail. I think it's time to introduce her to the history of race in America, including slavery. She is very bright (duh!) She leads a pretty protected life, though, her family members are liberal democrats. Weighty topic to say the least. And where to even start?

I've looked at some children's books on Amazon, but they are pretty childish for her - you know, we are all alike and it's beautiful that we have differences, blah blah blah.

I'm thinking a more realistic approach that includes slavery and the struggle for civil rights. Anyone have any suggestions? Nothing that talks down to her, but nothing so lofty that it goes right over her head.

I am going to cross post this in the non-fiction reading group/forum. Any help is appreciated.

Edited to add: THANK YOU! I knew DU would have answers for me!

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Help me educate my 8 year old granddaughter on race, please (Original Post) lillypaddle Jul 2020 OP
You might look up realistic youth fiction. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2020 #1
Not sure what angle to hit that with lillypaddle Jul 2020 #2
I know there are stories abt people like Harriet Tubman. Some graphic novels as well. Give me a GreenPartyVoter Jul 2020 #3
Thanks. lillypaddle Jul 2020 #11
Yes, the literature in this area has improved greatly over the years. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2020 #13
Watch "Eyes on the Prize" docuseries with her, RiverbendsJoe Jul 2020 #4
I'll look that up right now. lillypaddle Jul 2020 #6
Just watched a little bit lillypaddle Jul 2020 #15
Much of what she will learn is watching your behavior. jrthin Jul 2020 #5
I had my "BLM" tee shirt on when she came over today lillypaddle Jul 2020 #9
LOL. Yes, it does help. jrthin Jul 2020 #26
no children...and it's been stillcool Jul 2020 #7
My recommendation is to keep it basic MaryMagdaline Jul 2020 #8
Scholastic is usually good handmade34 Jul 2020 #10
Awesome! lillypaddle Jul 2020 #12
John Lewis has some graphic novels out SunnyBaudelaire Jul 2020 #14
The tik-tok white privilege quiz qwlauren35 Jul 2020 #16
What do you want to achieve? Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #17
Some sense of history lillypaddle Jul 2020 #18
8 is really young for that. Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #19
If the kid lives in the U.S., she lives in a white supremacy. If she's 8 and her family hasn't WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #23
true ... that's why I've posed the question. lillypaddle Jul 2020 #32
I would only go slowly, introducing small pieces at a time lillypaddle Jul 2020 #27
Had to walk downstairs to the den Dan Jul 2020 #20
Thanks lillypaddle Jul 2020 #28
I am a librarian-- middle school right now essme Jul 2020 #21
Thanks, I've added it to my "list" on Amazon lillypaddle Jul 2020 #29
Here are some anti-racism books for kids: WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #22
an integrated childhood is a good base. i know it was good for me. pansypoo53219 Jul 2020 #24
Oh, I'm certain she will! lillypaddle Jul 2020 #30
This might be helpful as well: WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #25
this is excellent lillypaddle Jul 2020 #31
Faith Ringgold's books are wonderful. mia Jul 2020 #33

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
3. I know there are stories abt people like Harriet Tubman. Some graphic novels as well. Give me a
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jul 2020

minute and I’ll do a quick search.

Edit: google this. black history month youth and children's reading lists

Lots of good links pop up.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
5. Much of what she will learn is watching your behavior.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:08 PM
Jul 2020

And the other posters have mentioned other good sources.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
9. I had my "BLM" tee shirt on when she came over today
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jul 2020

Does that count? LOL. Yeah, I'm 73 and pretty much a self-isolating homebody, but I know what you mean. By example.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
7. no children...and it's been
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jul 2020

a long time since I was 8 years old, so I got nothing. K&R for some good suggestions for you.

MaryMagdaline

(6,854 posts)
8. My recommendation is to keep it basic
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jul 2020

And tell her to have her friends and friends’ parents educate her, ie, her friends of color and to listen to their experiences and to never tell a friend that “my experience is X” while they are telling you THEIR experiences. Something I wish I had done earlier in my life c

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
12. Awesome!
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jul 2020

She will be over this Sunday while her mom & dad go to the movie. We might start with this. Thanks.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
16. The tik-tok white privilege quiz
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jul 2020

I'm not sure if it's too painful for an 8 year old. It's definitely very gentle for an adult.

I'm a poor example - I HATED history. However, if you're very knowledgeable, consider getting games that you can play with her, or finding on-line quizzes.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
17. What do you want to achieve?
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jul 2020

It sounds like the most important thing, having friends of different races/nationalities etc, has already been accomplished.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
18. Some sense of history
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jul 2020

The "why" as to why people are upset, the inequities, what slavery was and what it meant.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
19. 8 is really young for that.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jul 2020

I use the Santa Clause test. If a child believes in Santa Clause they haven’t achieved rational thought yet. If she asks a question, give an honest answer. If there is something she is interested in, learn about POC who contributed to that field.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,337 posts)
23. If the kid lives in the U.S., she lives in a white supremacy. If she's 8 and her family hasn't
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

actively discussed anti-racism with her, she's been steeped in a white supremacist framework for eight years. It's never too early to talk about anti-racism.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
32. true ... that's why I've posed the question.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jul 2020

Her dad's black bff from the 5th grade was his best man. We are totally open.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
27. I would only go slowly, introducing small pieces at a time
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:34 PM
Jul 2020

Just like sex education. But she's a bright girl. Her mom & dad don't have TV, they watch Netflix and specials on Amazon, and she isn't really exposed to the protest marches we have had recently.

Here's what put the idea in my head: I watched the video here at DU that was so powerful- it was an Eleven Films video, I believe. It was incredibly powerful. Hitting me hard was the little black girl with the angry face marching, her mask pulled down. And then the white, blond girl on one knee giving the "power" salute. Black children have to learn these things very young for their own survival. I want my granddaughter to be aware of this, what it means and why. Both those children in the video were very likely her age.

Anyway, YMMV.

Dan

(3,561 posts)
20. Had to walk downstairs to the den
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jul 2020

Given her age:

1. To give her view about the Holocaust consider MAUS and MAUS II by Art Spiegelman.

You might want to preview first, but for American history:

2. “Cracks in the Melting Pot” by Melvin Steinfield.

Very hard to find,

3. “To Serve the Devil, vol 1: Natives and Slaves.

4. “To Serve the Devil, vol 2: Colonials and Sojourners.

By. Paul Jacobs and Saul Landau with Eve Pell.

Just off the top...


On edit: Maybe better for you as a starting point for that conversation...

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
28. Thanks
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jul 2020

Of course I will preview everything, and I still need to talk to her parents to get permission. Conversation both before and after are important. If she doesn't respond and seems to blow it all off, I'll come back to it when some time has passed and she's more mature.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
29. Thanks, I've added it to my "list" on Amazon
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jul 2020

She may already be beyond that, as she as a black male friend she plays with frequently, and several girls of color, one of which is her BFF and does sleep overs. I appreciate the input. As a librarian, I trust your judgment.

pansypoo53219

(20,976 posts)
24. an integrated childhood is a good base. i know it was good for me.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jul 2020

always had black friends over white.

tell her to stay integrated.

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