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KT2000

(20,577 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:07 AM Jul 2020

Why isn't voter suppression illegal

It is in the Fifteenth Amendment of the Constitution that state the right shall not be abridged. How could all those efforts survive a Supreme Court challenge?

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

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Why isn't voter suppression illegal (Original Post) KT2000 Jul 2020 OP
I don't get it either. One would think all of this crap to stop votes would be way over the top of RKP5637 Jul 2020 #1
Framing Lithos Jul 2020 #2
Thank you canetoad Jul 2020 #4
It's only as good as the Supreme Court lets it be unblock Jul 2020 #3
Didn't McConnell vote down the renewal of the Voting Rights act? Budi Jul 2020 #5
takesd federal govt enforcement as well as federal judges, not going to happen until we rid our beachbumbob Jul 2020 #6
Because 7 years ago,in a 5-4 "conservative" majority decision Martin Eden Jul 2020 #7
Interestingly StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #10
"States Rights" Martin Eden Jul 2020 #12
It is. The Voting Rights Act is the operating statute StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #8
lawyers. Chainfire Jul 2020 #9
Not lawyers. Republucans StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #11
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Jul 2020 #13

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
1. I don't get it either. One would think all of this crap to stop votes would be way over the top of
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:17 AM
Jul 2020

illegal. And the US preaches to other nations about the right to vote, like the US is a bunch of saints. FFS, the BS in the US runs deep.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
2. Framing
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:18 AM
Jul 2020

Voter Suppression is an outcome. Intent creates outcome, but it is difficult to prove the actual intent was to create a specific outcome.

unblock

(52,207 posts)
3. It's only as good as the Supreme Court lets it be
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:21 AM
Jul 2020

For the most part, if voter suppression isn't *explicitly* on the basis of race, then they say it's ok. So shutting down polling places would be a problem if there were a recording that they did it to make it hard for blacks to vote.

But if they say it's to save money or probably even to suppress the vote of *democrats*, then that's basically ok according to the Supreme Court, even though black people strongly align with the Democratic Party. At least, gerrymandering on the basis of party is ok, but on the basis of race is not.

Sucks but that's the current court we're dealing with.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. Didn't McConnell vote down the renewal of the Voting Rights act?
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:41 AM
Jul 2020

Or not bring it to a vote for renewal maybe.

Repubs have been suppressing the right to vote for decades. Its truly the only way they ever win

I can't recall what caused it to lapse.
Have to research that info.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. takesd federal govt enforcement as well as federal judges, not going to happen until we rid our
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:56 AM
Jul 2020

country of GOP control and find a way to rid ourselves of Federal judges which takes 67 senate votes to do so.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
7. Because 7 years ago,in a 5-4 "conservative" majority decision
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:14 AM
Jul 2020

... the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act by removing a provision requiring states with a history of discriminating against minority voters to get federal permission before changing their voting rules.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
10. Interestingly
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:27 AM
Jul 2020

The Court ruled that Congress had overstepped in requiring certain states to pre-clear voting changes to stop voter suppression, but last year decided that challenges to state legislatures' electoral maps are political questions that are not reviewable in federal court.

In other words, the Court struck down Congress' efforts to protect black voters' right to vote but wouldn't touch state legislatures' drive to suppress the black vote.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. It is. The Voting Rights Act is the operating statute
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:17 AM
Jul 2020

But the Supreme Court eviscerated the pre-clearance provision, the primary enforcement section of the Act.

Under the pre-clearance provision, states and localities in designated states with a history of suppression were required to submit any proposed changes to any voting processes to DOJ for pre-approval. It was a tremendous prevention mechanism. But the Supreme Court invalidated Section 5 in 2013. Now the only way to enforce the Act is by proving suppression case by case and often after the fact.

Another reason we need to take back the Senate and keep the House - we need to restore the Voting Rights Act.

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