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flying_wahini

(6,591 posts)
3. Dershowitz was there and they have videos to prove it.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jul 2020


And Ghislaine knows much, much more about Epstein and Trump connection.
Besides it’s Not about the girls, but money laundering.
The DOJ knew about it years ago.

As Nancy said, “all roads lead to Putin.”

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
7. Certainly not just about Dersh, either.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jul 2020

He’s just there to stop it from rolling further up the line.

Gross.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
5. From the dirtbag who negotiated this crooked deal
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020
They may also argue that Maxwell is protected by Epstein’s original plea deal that expressly included Maxwell as someone who received immunity.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
6. I don't see how you can use someone else's plea deal
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jul 2020

to give yourself protection.

They didn't make that deal with her, nor she with them.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
8. How soon before she hangs herself? Or will it be Covid19 that gets her?
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020

I highly doubt she'll live long enough to testify. The only question is how they will do it and if they even care about making up plausible stories anymore.

MaryMagdaline

(6,854 posts)
9. Masterpiece of obfuscation
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jul 2020

1. One witness lied about me and al gore so other witnesses must be lying, too
2. Did I mention Al Gore, Tipper Gore, bill and Hillary? You liberals better defend Ghislaine or she will open a can of worms.
3. Ghislaine never tried to have sex with me, my wife, the Clintons and other septuagenarians so there’s no way she would molest an underaged girl
4. One of the witnesses lied about an Israeli prime minister so you pro-Israel people need to see this as an attack on Israel
5 Netflix was mean to me so the SDNY must have a bad case
6. Ghislaine’s attorneys better get this case thrown out under Statute of Limitations or crooked Florida plea deal OR ELSE
7. Did I mention Ghislaine went to Oxford?

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
10. Are you trying to distract from that New Yorker article about you, Alan?
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jul 2020

It's pretty damning:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/05/alan-dershowitz-devils-advocate

It's all pretty gross but here's an excerpt:

Dershowitz has written frequently that defending the rights of the accused in rape cases is a crucial application of the presumption of innocence. In “Contrary to Popular Opinion,” published in 1992, he included a list of cases in which women acknowledged having made false accusations of rape. He argued, “It is precisely because rape is so serious a crime that falsely accusing someone of rape should be regarded as an extremely serious crime as well. Imagine yourself or a ‘loved one’ being falsely accused of raping a woman!”

Some students thought that he strained logic in order to defend men. “In Dershowitz’s view, men who are accused of rape, there has got to be a defense,” one female student from the 1991 class recalled. “He had convoluted ways of thinking about how men could misinterpret lack of consent. And it wasn’t relegated to when we were speaking about a rape case. Wherever we were on the syllabus, he would bring it up.”

William Kennedy Smith, a nephew of John F. Kennedy, had recently been accused of raping a woman on a Kennedy family estate, and Dershowitz frequently spoke to the media about the case. (Smith argued that the sex was consensual, and he was later acquitted.) In class, according to a second female student, who is now the chief executive of a nonprofit, “he would talk about Smith and the woman frolicking in the waves, ripping off their clothes.” Midway through the semester, “a woman raised her hand and said, essentially, O.K., enough rape examples! There are women in this class who have been raped. Can we move on to something else?”

“His hair just caught on fire,” Murph Willcott, a male student who was in the class during the confrontation, recalled. “He seemed to take that as a challenge to his authority, and he made it clear he was going to teach what he wanted to teach.”

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
11. Shocking! The wealthy and powerful are covering
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jul 2020

...for the wealthy and powerful. I do appreciate Alan for writing this because he added a couple of other “clients” to the suspect list.
Is Alan making the point that if you are wealthy and friends with the Rothschild’s and educated at Oxford that a suspicion of wrongdoing is absurd?

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
14. When Epstein walked into prison, he looked like he was staring Death in the face...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:33 PM
Jul 2020

That photo was stark.

The guards fell asleep? They were doing double shifts, but a little rohypnol in their coffee would account for them dropping off at the same time and having a little amnesia. And prison guards are expendable people, right? — only they and their families will care if they’re fired.

Good luck Ghislaine.

PurgedVoter

(2,217 posts)
16. That has got to hurt.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:46 PM
Jul 2020

Honestly, having Dershowitz defend your reputation is like having Hitler call you a good German.

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