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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:28 PM Jul 2020

To my American Friends, Happy Independence Day from the country who really won the war!

Hope you have a safe and glorious time; however, as you celebrate your Independence Day, I have to insist we Brits really won the war. You see, looking back, all our religious right wing nuts headed over to the Americas for the freedom to establish a puritan land post Cromwell, where they could burn witches, condemn any free thought and lead a land based on the bible. Granted the founders were truly clear that there should be separation of church and state, but that did nothing to stop those religious loons being the arseholes they were and are. And so we really won the war, as all those nuts that could have infected British society with their loonery ended up in America instead, and the result is these religious right wing nuts holding a gun in one hand with the bible in the other, crying about having to wear masks and discriminating against pretty much everyone cause Jesus and Trump. We have our problems, but thankfully that is not one of them. Thanks America, you may have won the actual war, but thanks to the American religious right and their stooge in the White house, we won the culture war! Hehehe.

Truly though, have a great holiday



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To my American Friends, Happy Independence Day from the country who really won the war! (Original Post) Soph0571 Jul 2020 OP
For this reason alone the human race owes thanks to UK Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #1
Truly stunning Soph0571 Jul 2020 #5
OH man you have to DISH then STORIES !!!! Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #7
OK but not too much Soph0571 Jul 2020 #10
Cool, i was thinking more about the band, how they worked, what they did Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #15
Soph, may we,well the normal we, come back ? irisblue Jul 2020 #2
Apparently there is a group in America that lobbies for America joining the Commonwealth Soph0571 Jul 2020 #4
Ih he wins again in November CanonRay Jul 2020 #9
Hey Ray!!! Soph0571 Jul 2020 #11
Same back to you two...so far so good! CanonRay Jul 2020 #28
Dear wingnuts... LunaSea Jul 2020 #3
omg that GIF! Skittles Jul 2020 #6
I thought it fitting Soph0571 Jul 2020 #12
I would have sent that to my British mum if she was still here Skittles Jul 2020 #18
Let's pray he doesn't gain Dagstead Bumwood Jul 2020 #17
HAHAHAHA Skittles Jul 2020 #19
nt MustLoveBeagles Jul 2020 #30
I'm dying MustLoveBeagles Jul 2020 #33
Long live the Queen! CanonRay Jul 2020 #8
Thanks I think...... Chainfire Jul 2020 #13
to be fair Skittles Jul 2020 #21
Thanks, ornotna Jul 2020 #14
OMG STOP IT ORNOTNA Skittles Jul 2020 #20
Cultural hero! Soph0571 Jul 2020 #23
WWI, WWII, oh wait. denem Jul 2020 #16
Yeah thanks for that Soph0571 Jul 2020 #22
Little Richard and Chuck Berry won the culture war :) denem Jul 2020 #26
Great to hear! Steelrolled Jul 2020 #24
We are the wretched refuse. Crunchy Frog Jul 2020 #25
Now we fight a different war: Which one can out right wing the other. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #27
The U.S. may have inherited the dregs of European society but no witches were burned here. abqtommy Jul 2020 #29
I occasionally wonder, if we hadn't declared and won our independence, if we may not be Canada today NBachers Jul 2020 #31
It's interesting to consider what would have happened had England won the war... First Speaker Jul 2020 #32
What we are witnessing is the death of the Anglo-American empire. roamer65 Jul 2020 #34
that's bdamomma Jul 2020 #35
I think Putin and Xi are only accelerating the inevitable. roamer65 Jul 2020 #36
check this article out bdamomma Jul 2020 #37
I am an old Henry "Scoop" Jackson type anti-Russian. roamer65 Jul 2020 #40
We got your religious fanatics. Australia got your common criminals. Aristus Jul 2020 #38
lol EX500rider Jul 2020 #39
... Polybius Jul 2020 #41

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
1. For this reason alone the human race owes thanks to UK
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jul 2020



Greatest performance by the greatest rock band of all time and the greatest front-man and songwriter and singer of all time.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
7. OH man you have to DISH then STORIES !!!!
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:49 PM
Jul 2020

Do you have any?

I saw them live, Winterland, Bohemian Rhapsody tour

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
10. OK but not too much
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jul 2020

Her Mum had just got him as a client and Freddie came out of the closet toilet in their house. My friend pointed at him and said oh look mummy Freddie just came out of the closet. Mummy was not pleased!!! LOL. Of course there are better ones but not going to spill. Not my place. Told in confidence and after Freddie had died

Eliot Rosewater

(31,104 posts)
15. Cool, i was thinking more about the band, how they worked, what they did
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jul 2020

as their routines.

I guess when I said "dish" it implied gossip but as a fan and musician myself, they fascinate me

Adam Lambert is GREAT with them now, would love to see them again.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
4. Apparently there is a group in America that lobbies for America joining the Commonwealth
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jul 2020

I think that time is past, but you never know, if Trump takes it to the end degree, anything may be possible!!!

LunaSea

(2,892 posts)
3. Dear wingnuts...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jul 2020

Jesus is on the on one of the moons of Uranus.
And wants you all to visit him right away.
I swear.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
18. I would have sent that to my British mum if she was still here
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jul 2020

she LOVED that kind of decadent humor, LOL

Chainfire

(17,433 posts)
13. Thanks I think......
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jul 2020

Do us a favor, take Trump for the next few months. Maybe we could take Brexit during that time. It would be good for you guys because you could see, and appreciate, what you have been missing, and good for us so that we could catch our breaths for a moment.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
22. Yeah thanks for that
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jul 2020

I mean you all made us give up the Empire to join defeating fascism. Cause just defeating fascism was not enough. Again we win the culture war. Just sayin'

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
26. Little Richard and Chuck Berry won the culture war :)
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jul 2020

It was Clement Attlee's government, after the war had ended, that gave up the empire. The decision to set free India, the jewel in the crown, was Britain's and Britain's alone. In contrast, France chose to cling onto Algeria and Vietnam.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
27. Now we fight a different war: Which one can out right wing the other.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:45 PM
Jul 2020

Y'all had Thatcher, Cameron, Osborne, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson (featuring Dominic Cummings)...to name a few.

We've had Nixon & Agnew, Reagan, 2X Bushes, Cheney, and now the Orange Shitgibbon (featuring Stephen Miller).....to name a few.

At this time, I think it's a draw.......

KY.........

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
29. The U.S. may have inherited the dregs of European society but no witches were burned here.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jul 2020

See link: https://www.history.com/news/were-witches-burned-at-the-stake-during-the-salem-witch-trials

Also Robert Heinlein covers that topic in his book Job: A Comedy Of Justice.

see link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job:_A_Comedy_of_Justice

Soph, what are we gonna do with you...

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
32. It's interesting to consider what would have happened had England won the war...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 08:13 PM
Jul 2020

...in England itself, the Crown almost certainly would have retained more power over the next 200 years than it did in our reality. Nothing like the pre-1688 monarchy; but it would have functioned as the "executive", in a very real sense, longer than it did in the "real" world. Class differences would probably been stronger even than they were. Despite this, Britain would have moved towards democracy--but almost certainly slower than it actually did. In America, we, too, would have been more of a class-conscious society, more like Canada, with Sirs and Lords and Ladies. But also without phenomena like the Ku Klux Klan and Prohibition and the Mafia--such things simply wouldn't have been tolerated. It is likely, too, that slavery would have *probably* died out without the blood sacrifice we paid. As for the Anglo-American codominion that would have resulted...who knows. A British victory might have triggered the French Revolution even sooner, had the French devoted the resources they did to defeating the British they did in our world. But since the Brits beat Napoleon via a coalition, even with America as Bonaparte's de facto allies, it seems hard to believe it would have been *harder* with America as their allies. In such a world, with either a joint Parliament, or perhaps one in London and one in Philadelphia, America would have become an equal partner to the Mother Country quicker than it did in our world. It's even possible that a Pax Anglo-America would have risen, stronger and more enduring than the British Empire was "here". In the best-case scenario, we'd be living today in that Imperium, under a more strait-laced democracy still possessing "Victorian" values. Though of course, they'd have problems and tensions of their own...

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
36. I think Putin and Xi are only accelerating the inevitable.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jul 2020

This was kicked into gear mainly under Ronnie Raygun and his “service economy” bullshit.

Aristus

(66,250 posts)
38. We got your religious fanatics. Australia got your common criminals.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jul 2020

I think Australia got the better of the bargain...

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