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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*****ANY***** vote that is not for Biden is a vote for Trump
Voting green this year? You're voting for Trump
Voting for Ralph Nader? You're voting for Trump
Voting Linden LaRouche? You're voting for Trump
Writing in Bernie Sanders name anyway? Trump is grateful for you
Voting for Kanye West? Guess what?
West knows this
and so do we
Me.
(35,454 posts)It would be so now
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,654 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)We are too nice to Republicans.
Baltimike
(4,143 posts)Mariana
(14,857 posts)A while back, a poster here was railing against 3rd party voters and non-voters, and actually said outright, "I don't blame Republican voters" for putting Trump in office. No, to that poster it was entirely the fault of people who didn't vote for Trump. Weird.
Demsrule86
(68,572 posts)It just is. Biden is the only one who stands between us and Trump's second term.
Baltimike
(4,143 posts)Demsrule86
(68,572 posts)dansolo
(5,376 posts)Progressives who vote third party are either too self-absorbed to realize they are helping Trump, or even worse, know exactly what they are doing but seem to be more interested in punishing the Democratic party than getting rid of Republicans.
mucifer
(23,542 posts)morat
(7 posts)ancianita
(36,055 posts)morat
(7 posts)Tragically, we are a celebrity culture. People voted for a tv celebrity billionaire that they knew was a dbag. Im pretty sure they will vote for a celebrity like Kanye who, while eccentric, is not a dbag. Kanye cuts across politics too.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)and who is a purported "celebrity", when in reality, 91% of black voters did not vote for a "celebrity" but voted for an experienced government official (having been both elected and appointed) - Hillary Clinton?
M'kay.
Demsrule86
(68,572 posts)AA voters will choose him because he is AA or a celebrity? I don't. You paint a very unflattering portrait of AA voters, and I think you are wrong. They will vote for Biden knowing he is he only way to dump Trump...AA voters are very savvy politically.
qwlauren35
(6,148 posts)If there is a black person who would vote for him, there is probably a white person who would vote for him. Stupid comes in all colors.
pwb
(11,265 posts)Two of a kind.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump
Hint: It has to do with race.
One of the most puzzling elements of the 2016 election, at least for a lot of Americans, was the millions of voters who switched from voting for Barack Obama in 2012 to Donald Trump in 2016. Somewhere between 6.7 million and 9.2 million Americans switched this way; given that the 2016 election was decided by 40,000 votes, its fair to say that Obama-Trump switchers were one of the key reasons that Hillary Clinton lost.
(Snip)
White voters with racially conservative or anti-immigrant attitudes switched votes to Trump at a higher rate than those with more liberal views on these issues, the papers authors write. We find little evidence that economic dislocation and marginality were significantly related to vote switching in 2016.
This new paper fits with a sizeable slate of studies conducted over the past 18 months or so, most of which have come to the same conclusions: There is tremendous evidence that Trump voters were motivated by racial resentment (as well as hostile sexism), and very little evidence that economic stress had anything to do with it.
This isnt just a matter of historical interest or ideological ax-grinding. Understanding the precise way in which racism affected the 2016 election should shape how we think about the electorate in the run-up to the 2018 midterms. More broadly, it helps us understand the subtleties of Americas primordial divide over race and why racism will continue to fracture the country politically for the foreseeable future.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Trump rubes are committed to voting for him. You cannot peel off anyone from that 41 percent cult. You can only peel voters from those not voting from Trump.
lame54
(35,290 posts)Response to Baltimike (Original post)
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pandr32
(11,583 posts)Bettie
(16,107 posts)so, he'll get less votes than usual!
I'm a Democrat. I'm voting for our nominee.
I think you might be preaching to the choir here.
But, I know at least one person who is still butthurt about Sanders and won't vote for Biden.
murielm99
(30,740 posts)Bettie
(16,107 posts)to be surprised by stupid people anymore.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)... then you have effectively cast a vote for Trump.
And this holds true whether your CHOICE is to vote third party OR is to not vote at all.
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Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)Trumo is a monster who is destroying demicracy. If they ever want voting to matter again, they must vote Trump out now, while there is still a chance that he will not try to overturn the selectionof the voters.
needledriver
(836 posts)Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) is going to suck a lot more votes from the red side of the political color wheel than the blue. She is an attractive alternative for those who just cant stomach *45 but would not under any circumstances vote for Biden.
Demsrule86
(68,572 posts)needledriver
(836 posts)left who is seriously undecided about Biden or *45.
Unless it is someone who can't stand either of them and is dithering about the least worst choice.
In which case JoJo allows them to pretend that they are participating in the political system while not being forced to hold their nose and vote for *45.
qwlauren35
(6,148 posts)Kanye is so HANDSOME.
And I just LOVE Kim. She's always so fashionable.