The Lincoln Project coins the perfect collective noun for the hapless Senate Republicans

[Pluvious]

These guys are so good at this shit it's scary.

Link to tweet

Trump knew Putin was hunting our soldiers. He did nothing to stop it. He hasn’t condemned it.

And @GOP Senators have remained silent.

The news cycle may move on, but we won’t forget: Trump and his coward of Senators would rather our soldiers die than upset their boss Putin.

[42bambi]

1. I would personally like to thank The Lincoln Project. We Dem's are grateful for your support. nt

[yuiyoshida]

14. They are making a difference

アンソニー!

[usaf-vet]

22. Please everyone send them some money THEY ARE making a difference.

Before Covid-19 the wife and I would normally go out to one of the local restaurants once or twice a month.

At least one of those trips would be for a Friday night fish fry. Two fresh Lake Superior Walleye Dinners with potato, salad, dessert, and a cocktail. Would be an easy $30.00-$40.00 tab. Before and after diner drinks made the difference.

We decided to allocate that money to the Lincoln Project. We are retired but on a fixed income. We carry no debt. Own our house and car. So we can afford the eating out money going to Lincoln Project.

The second usual outing for a meal is now to the restaurants that has delivery. We rotate between the three locally own restaurant to try and help them bridge the CV-19 closing.

So if you find yourself in as simular financial state please consider sending a small monthly amount to The Lincoln Project.

[wnylib]

27. I think they are making a case

for running someone else. I think they would like to nominate a.different candidate. Probably Romney.

Romney might draw back some of the people who left the party over the years. He would be a harder candidate for Biden to run against, but it might be best for all of us if Trump is not on the ballot. Even if Biden wins against Trump in a huge landslide, Trump can tie it up with challenges and get it sent to the House, where the voting system used would give R's the majority votes even though Dems control the House. There's a thread in GD on how that works.

Could get really messy and ugly.

But that wouldn't happen if Trump is not the Republican candidate.

[OnDoutside]

32. They have publicly stated that the Republican Party needs to be burned to the ground, so i'm not

sure where you are getting that from. Once Trump is gone, there may well be a civil war/internecine fight within the GOP with what's left. They've said that they hope to build a new party from the saner elements of what remains. US Democracy needs at least 2 parties, otherwise you'll end up with a one party state, which doesn't bode well in the long run.

[yuiyoshida]

38. Romney would be better than Trump

But this country is hungry for Biden.

[wnylib]

67. Romney would appear to be

more sane and civil on the surface, but he is just as cold and ruthless, with more intelligence.

[JI7]

70. nope, Trump is far worse than Romney. But Romney still sucks and would lose to Biden

[yuiyoshida]

72. LETS MAKE IT HAPPEN

-drops 🎤 Mic.

[JI7]

64. no they aren't. They support Biden and Romney can't beat Biden

[wnylib]

68. I don't know where you got the

notion that the Lincoln Project supports Biden, but I have no such illusions. They oppose Trump. Not the same as supporting Biden.

[JI7]

69. They do support Biden who they say it's a good person. they support other Democrats also

[wnylib]

71. Can you provide some links about

the Lincoln Project's support of Biden and other Democrats?

[JI7]

73. Go to Lincoln Project on YouTube. all of their ads are there

they have ad supporting democratic governor Bullock for Senate against the Republican also.

[wnylib]

80. So your conclusion is an opinion.

There are extremist Republicans in other offices who are Trump supporters. The Lincoln Project wants to wipe out all of Trump's backers, advisors, elected and appointed politicians in order to get that element completely out of government. If backing an occasional Dem here or there when there is no Republican alternative but a RW nut job, then they will do it.

But they are solid Republicans whose own actions and politics in the past made nut cases like Trump able to run and win. They have not become Dem policy supporters overnight. They represent the remnants of the Republican establishment. They are trying to get rid of Trump and his ilk. They are anti Trump and anti all the wing nuts who have taken over the party with Trump. But they are not pro Dem. That's just a temporary strategy to get rid of the nut jobs running the Republicans now.

[JI7]

81. good for them if they want to get rid if Trump seems Trump types

and they aren't claiming to be Democrats or liberals.

but they are doing a lot more to help Democrats win in this election than certain types that claim to be Democrats or liberal but mostly spend their time pointing out imperfections of others.

[Warpy]

20. They are not supporting us. They are trying to prevent the total destruction

of their own party, something in great danger (from their POV) of happening as Dumdum drags them down with him, and selling out our soldiers overseas isn't even the bottom of that barrel full of pus and poison.

They are doing damage to him and I'm grateful for every hole poked into that thin skin. I just don't kid myself that any of them has had a real change of heart. They still use an unattainable end to justify unacceptable means. And they still think everything runs from the top down, so the bottom can be ignored.

It's a pity, they're really good at being nasty.

[Indykatie]

23. I Think the LP is doing Excellent Work

Will they continue to support Dems after Trump has lost? Some will, some won't but why does that even matter. I think the GOP will continue to be a bat sh*t crazy party after Trump because only extreme candidates will be able to win GOP primaries. I think sane Republicans know they don't have a party to return to. They are doing an excellent job on Trump with their no holds barred approach.

[Roy Rolling]

26. Not Mutually Exclusive Terms

Lincoln Project can get rid of Trump, that is their focus. What happens next is not up to them but to everyone. They are not supporting us only like DU, but they support us by destroying Trump.

[OnDoutside]

33. No, you're wrong. They've stated from the very beginning that the GOP needs to be burned to the

ground. Yes, they do want a conservative party but one that moves away from the nutjob element of the current Republican Party. They will eventually have policies that crossover on what the Democratic Party represents i.e. to become more moderate to appeal to a saner electorate.

[Warpy]

39. Do you really think they have any use for Democrats?

If so, I've got some beachfront property in NM to sell you, you don't have to come look at it, you can trust me.

These are party loyalists. They will vote third party protest or leave the top spot blank.

And if the Republicans ever manage to dig up another reasonable candidate (probably not, a reasonable one would try to run things), all that nastiness will be turned right back on us.

So enjoy seeing holes poked in Dumdum's thin skin because it's not going to last. These guys are entertaining as all hell, but they are not our friends.

[OnDoutside]

41. Many of their ads have specifically asked that people vote for Biden in November. This isn't about

them becoming Democrats, though Kurt Bardella has become a Democrat. The others want Trump gone, and they recognise (and advocate) that people should vote for Biden and vote for Democrats right down the line. They don't plan to become Democrats and want to create a new Republican Party (or whatever it's called), once this one is smashed in November. They've been clear about it, they've been open about it, and the only ones with a problem with it so far, have been those who were Bernie or Bust/Bernie Bros. To think tkat they are going back to the GOP as it currently stands, people have no idea of the hatred between them and the likes of Pompeo/Haley etc.

[betsuni]

76. +1

[Beartracks]

60. Hey, there's beaches!

Don't forget Elephant Butte!

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[Warpy]

77. I actually do have ocean frontage

The ocean's just a mile down and is one of the two sources for drinking water here. When the rift valley formed, the land rose, and the ocean drained down the cracks into an aquifer.

Elephant Butte is surface water and various water treaties dole it out carefully year after year, to farmers downstream here and in Texas.

[JI7]

65. they are NOT party loyalists since they are supporting Biden and other Democrats

[WhiteTara]

74. George Conway is a member of

the Federalist Society and as such, is a traitor from the other side. When this is over, they will go back to being republicons. They only know how to win, they have no policy except to scam as money for themselves as possible.

However, they are doing the work they need to do to atone for their sins.

[JI7]

75. I think you need to stop viewing politics as if it's a religion

[Fla Dem]

42. Totally agree with you. Appreciate the LP is hitting Trump hard, but they are not our friends.

Surely we've all heard the saying, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Up to the point where our mutual enemy no longer exists. So when Trump is defeated, "The Lincoln Project" will work just as hard to nominate a conservative for the next election, and will do what it takes to make sure the Democrats do not have a 2nd term President, or new President if Biden decides not to run.

[Warpy]

45. Thanks for getting the point that others missed

Oh, I'm as gleeful as anyone else around here when one of their videos hits its target.

I just hope Democrats other than The Meidas Touch are paying close attention. Weaponizing the truth is what it's all about these days, not wishy washy warm and fuzzy crapola that no longer impresses anyone.

[ancianita]

51. I get it.

I can't trust them until they're actual Democrats through an entire presidential term. I watch NicolleWallace and Steve Schmidt with the same standard. Once Biden's in, they could bear Right into the doubt machine on a dime.

[Warpy]

54. When a Hamiltonian party has come apart at the seams

the conservatives who favor the status quo flood into the more stable Democratic Party. This was true when the Federalists were exposed as big money crooks and when the Whigs were split in half by Abolitionism, ushering in dismal periods in our own party's history.

So I'm sincerely hoping they see their way clear to joining another party, instead, maybe they can inject more sensible behavior into the Libertarians or Reform Party. I just hope we can avoid them this time.

[ancianita]

58. Thank you for this history

I was unaware of our "big tent" being used that way. All I've heard of outright fraudulent cross-party registration to influence primaries, but that's it. Guess I've got holes in my political history background.

If they can just help Democrats win, wouldn't that be okay with you, though? Then we can monitor them after? Do you suppose many are angling for positions in a new administration? Do you think they can really re-gather a rational base? I see Repubs floundering over the next two cycles if we win the Senate and Electors must stay faithful, particularly if we succeed in getting only half of the platform into law and a couple of new justices.

Still, like you, I'm all about vigilance.

[Warpy]

78. Quite honestly, I'd prefer them to the K Street milksops that appear every 4 years

to be campaign handlers, trying to make sure no candidate ever says anything that could possibly ever offend anyone, which means they're pretty much gagged. You could especially see it with Gore and Kerry.

As for what happened with the Federalists and Whigs, there are a lot of decent articles online. The Whigs are the more interesting, pitched battles with Abolitionists had them fail to renominate their incumbent candidate, Millard Fillmore, in 1852. Their demise was rather more spectacular than the Federalist party, which collapsed under its own corruption. In addition, the status quo crowd flooded into the Democratic Party, creating the conditions for them to be the pro slavery and then Jim Crow party for many decades.

I think we are going to end up with these guys, at least in the short term, because there is no way the Republicans are going to encourage their most passionate and reliable voting blocs, the fundagelicals and Nixon's bigots, to leave any time soon.

Back in the early 00s, I had hoped Roy Moore would start a bible party, but he disappointed me election after election. He's getting a little long in the tooth for that now, maybe someone else will step into the breach.

ETA: There was no element of fraud in former Whigs re registering as Democrats, any more than there is now when people get disgusted with something or other and change parties. Nobody in the 1850s was talking about a big tent and the status quo Whigs didn't take the party over, they just added numbers that made it near impossible to shift to the right side of history. The last flood of Republicans into our party came in the 70s during and just after Nixon. It almost made up for all the southerners who had deserted us in favor of the Republicans after the Civil Rights legislation went through.

[ancianita]

59. A bit OT: watching "Hamilton" tonight. But from reading Gore Vidal's novel re Aaron Burr,

I've been convinced that Hamilton was a pro-colonial ass-kissing monarchial tory who, through his crap deal with Geo. Washington for the national capital land, helped England keep its economic tentacles on this country. Bad enough we brought their racial capitalism here through slavery.

Hamilton's loyalties to this country were never questioned. But he was no national hero.

There's another "history" lauded by broadway, pretty much as bad, to me, as the historical rewrite of the civil war.

[Warpy]

79. Hamilton was certainly a mixed bag

He'd cleaned Britain's clock several times in battle, Yorktown comes to mind. He then went on to negotiate favorable trade agreements with them, the new country would have been sunk without markets and France was already looking pretty shaky. He shaped the Treasury and instituted the first national bank. He's also the primary author represented in The Federalist Papers, a body of writing that has been haggled over and misinterpreted by hagglers and misinterpreters since the day they were authored.

I don't find him a particularly sympathetic character no matter who is padding his bio or what music it has been set to. Still, he did make some valid contributions to shaping this country and was one of the reasons it managed to survive its infancy until it got real and wrote a constitution that worked, at leat for white male landowners.

Yes, his trade agreements prolonged slavery, but one has to ask if this country had been reconquered by colonial powers, if slavery would have been on their list of things to abolish. Somehow, I doubt it. It's the way the world worked back then when rich white guys ran it.

[cstanleytech]

55. Yup. They and others like them were willing to go along with the slow descent

to what the Republican party is now so I would not trust them anymore than I would Trump.

[Mazeltov Cocktail]

57. And I hope Democrats are taking notes...

These are effective campaign ads, thank goodness they are not aimed at us. Next time around, they will be.

We need their ad agency, writers, balls, etc.

[ancianita]

61. Thing is...

we'll never, ever give them the material they've gotten from their own party. It's not possible and they know it.

They might actually be adjacent to the party or later, an intel operation. We'll just have to watch.

But no matter what they know, it will never approach the broad spectrum of international and domestic failure, oath breaking and political miscalculations, that could produce even one ad that would ever come close to what they've got on their own party. For all we know they might just keep up the ads against their party at mid-term.

Still. They need watching. They might do what you say, or wholly adopt the values of this party, but they'll have to prove that over a couple of election cycles, imo.

[mac56]

52. I want there to be a Principled Opposition.

I hope they turn out to be that.

In the meantime, I thank them also.

[kentuck]

2. Amen!

That's what the Democrats need to be saying.

Why are the Republicans silent? Do they think it is a "hoax", also? Perhaps they do? Perhaps they think no one should have ever mentioned it to the President because, maybe, they don't trust him?

There are questions that need to be answered and silence from McConnell and the Cowards is not acceptable.

Democrats need to be just a little stronger in this battle with the monied elite.

[2naSalit]

3. I've heard several Democrats...

asking this. Most of those I see on the news.

[morat]

11. They are hedging.

The R's are silent because they are hedging their bets. If Trump wins, they dont want to be the ones that went against him. In a way, I think it shows that they think he has a chance to win. Unlike Esper and the generals who obviously know he's going to lose.

[kentuck]

15. Also, I think the Democrats should be more critical of the press.

For not questioning Republicans more aggressively. About numerous topics.

[OnDoutside]

34. +1, yes they should almost be goaded into doing the right thing.

[sprinkleeninow]

19. the repukes are workin' both sides of th' street...

[erronis]

43. For them (the repuglicons), it's a matter of principle - or lack of.

However, they are keenly aware of "principal" - especially as applied to their bank balances padded with undeclared donations in US$s as well as russian-minted ones.

[wnylib]

37. I'm fairly confident that Trump

will not win the popular or electoral votes.

I am even more confident that Trump and some strategists who back him intend to challenge Biden's win so that it gets sent to the House. That does NOT mean a Dem win. The method of voting used in these circumstances will give R's the lead and confirm Trump as the winner.

And he will be able to claim that it was all done legally and according to the Constitutional rules. That will give SCOTUS the ability to confirm him against any Dem challenges.

Even if we get him out on a 25 in his second term, scum like Miller, Barr, etc. will still be able to carry out the vile programs and policies they have promoted through Trump.

[ancianita]

62. A challenge can't happen. It just can't. That's TWO to THREE SCOTUS justices. No.

This election's numbers can't even be close. If he's detected tampering with "foreign" mail, he'll have yet another federal crime to sink him.

The fight will end up in Washington after we've all done our job. This party had better be ready for it with Plans B - Z.

[cojoel]

4. I'm thinking a little Oz is needed

The Cowardly Lions of the Senate

[First Speaker]

5. Maybe, if the GOP ever regains its sanity, these guys will be the Loyal Opposition someday...

...and that's fine with me. You're supposed to have opposition in a democracy. But these folk have walked the walk, and however much I oppose some of the things they've supported in years gone by, they're helping save our democracy *now*. Two cheers for the Lincoln Project!

[Hekate]

6. What you said

[Zambero]

18. I almost think the GOP is past the point of no return

If it somehow regroups and becomes the center-right party that it once was, that would be a vast improvement over the ongoing disaster and assorted nutshow that it has turned into. Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace learned a very hard lesson with the Sarah Palin experiment gone wrong. That one was a near-miss, but the fact that an equally (or worse) unfit candidate such as Donald Trump could devour their party and go on to win via hook or crook appears to have been the last straw.

[sop]

7. I never thought I'd live to see the day when Republicans would attack their own president for

doing nothing while Vladimir Putin murdered American troops, and call out Trump and Republican senators for being Russian employees. And it's not some wild conspiracy theory, but a demonstrable fact.

[BigmanPigman]

8. Or this will happen...

David Frum said, "By now, most Republican elected realize that Trump has fatally mismanaged the pandemic.
By now, they must see that the economy will not "bounce back" or "rock" in the 3d quarter.
So the hunt is afoot for some other ballot issue that might save them from catastrophe. 3/x"

*There could be an "Oct Surprise" as some have predicted but there could be multiple "surprises" between now and Inauguration Day. They have the power, drive and $$$ to pull all kinds of shit. Do NOT underestimate them....they are vicious and evil.

[sprinkleeninow]

21. scavenging for some ballot issue to save their butts from a catastrophe...

[yankeepants]

9. How about a "Murder of Republicans"?

[PurgedVoter]

10. It is a treason of Republicans.

It is a coward of conservatives and it is an asylum of trumpsters. I thought everyone knew the correct terms.

[yuiyoshida]

16. If after Biden is elected and

Provided the Russians don’t steal this Election, will any action be taken against Trump and the traitors in his party??
Surely there has to be some action by Congress. Hoping. For a fully Democratic Government.

[Auggie]

66. Like it!

[alfredo]

63. A Quisling of Republicans

[rickyhall]

12. A Pandemic of Conservatives

[yuiyoshida]

13. Yup

The President of the United States is a Nasty .. 下衆野郎!

[kentuck]

17. It's a frickin' cult!

Nothing more. Nothing less.

[bdamomma]

47. And all cults

die and their leaders too.

[Progressive Jones]

24. The Center-Right has no party now. It's all fringe right wing in the GOP. nt

[dalton99a]

25. Kick

[Cha]

28. god, this is PERFECT! Just how I'm feeling about the Whole

Shit Show!!

RT!

Link to tweet

34.2K Retweets 90.5KLikes

omg!

Link to tweet

[liberaltrucker]

29. I follow the tweeter who posted that 'toon

Wish he were still here.

[Cha]

30. Me Too! I commented to him that

I Missed him!

[liberaltrucker]

31. ...

[OnDoutside]

35. What happened, Cha ? Shred was a great poster here, I missed that.

[Cha]

36. Ikr! I was just reading an older

thread for something awhile back & saw his name and realized I hadn't seen him lately.. so I looked him up. .

Then I saw him on twitter and started following him. Just ran into him again on the TLP thread.

OnDoutside SHRED!

[OnDoutside]

40. Thanks.

[erronis]

48. It's so easy to not notice when someone is no longer active. Perhaps we need a way

to find out if everything is ok. Not to be monitoring or invasive, just to be able to say "hello - are you ok?"

[liberaltrucker]

49. I found several current/former DUers there

And some found me.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. The coward of Rs so used to riding through a 'PR crisis' they think all crises are PR crises

... like the "Kung flu hoax", the "Russia hoax", the "global warming hoax", the "bounty hoax", ....

De-elect the Greed Over People hoaxters.

[bdamomma]

46. Lincoln Project

keeps on pushing the ads out, the more chaos and rancid the topic is they just publicize it.

Good for them. Let it get into the consciousness of peoples' minds.

[bucolic_frolic]

50. Lincoln Project is trying to push the toxins from their party

I think it will take at least 3 election cycles and some luck here or there.

[cstanleytech]

53. "He hasn't condemned it." Which causes me to believe he did know.

After all he had a great opportunity to turn the story around he had condemned it and demanded answers in public from Russia but he has done none of that so my conclusion is that its because he already knew.

[trof]

56. I'm pretty sure this wins the internets today.

Yep.
I'm pretty sure.

[calimary]

82. Well, maybe we have a new plural.

Like a pack of wolves, a swarm of bees, a smack of jellyfish, an exultation of larks, murder of crows.

A coward of Senators. In this case a coward of Republican Senators.


Although I always thought it should be a JAR of jellyfish...

[Pluvious]

83. That would be perfect !

And there's nothing more annoying than a murder, they just won't shut up. IIRC from Lust for Life, it's believed it was a murder of crows that drove Vincent Van Gogh to put a bullet in his head.

Here in LA's South Bay, we have several Pandemoniums of parrots, and they are truly riotous.

A Parliament of owls is the perfect collective noun.

[calimary]

84. Pandemonium of Parrots!

That's a new one for me! LOVE it!