'I've been in UK, Germany. They're not tearing down THEIR statues, not destoying THEIR history!' RWe

[bobbieinok]

Heard yesterday from RightWinger

[live love laugh]

1. The phenomenon is right-wing incited

just like looting was initiated by infiltration.

[JustAnotherGen]

2. Yes they did

They absolutely tore down all things Nazi related in German - they just did it many decades ago.

[Mariana]

9. ...

[bobbieinok]

15. THANKS!!

[ProfessorGAC]

24. To Be Historically Fair...

...the Red Army did what's that clip, not the German people.
But, the later German governments did purge other imagery and outlawed display of those historical images.
But, in that clip, the allies blew that symbol off the roof.

[LakeArenal]

19. Right. No one has to cuz they are gone.

I believe swasticas are illegal too.

[JustAnotherGen]

21. yeppers

[Thomas Hurt]

3. Did anyone ask him how many confederate generals

the UK and Germany had?

Also I think I read where the folks in Bristol tore down a statue of a slave trader and tossed it in the ocean.

[Aristus]

4. Ask him where are all the statues of Hitler?

n/t

[bobbieinok]

8. Tried. He just talks over opposing voices.

And I get so angry, upset when people say things like this, I can't talk.

[Aristus]

14. That's the behavior of someone who knows he's wrong, but doesn't

have the courage to admit it.

[bobbieinok]

16. I think it's that he KNOWS he's right, so why should he listen to anyone else!

The years and years I've known him he's always been sure he's right

Many years ago he explained he never gives his opinIon until he is sure it's right!

[niyad]

5. Ummmm, pretty sure that Bristol, where the statue of the slave trader colston (sp?) was

dumped into the harbor, is part of the U.K.

[wryter2000]

22. Yup

Didn't they also tear down one of Cecil Rhodes?

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. Not torn down, but the Oxford college it's on has agreed it should go (nt)

[johnp3907]

6. Yeah, Germany still has swastika flags and statues of Nazis all over the place.

[Leith]

7. Yes, they did

Lots of them in the UK.

[leftieNanner]

10. Most of these Confederate Statues were erected

Long after the end of the Civil War. They were put in public squares during the Jim Crow and Civil Rights Eras to warn those "uppity" folks to know their places. They had nothing to do with "history".

Nazi Germany does not have any Hitler statues anywhere.

[malaise]

11. Ask them to explain the meaning of the following phrase

monumental change.

[exboyfil]

12. Germany did a pretty good job hiding/destroying all their Nazi crap

In Bucharest, Romania, at least six statues of Marshal Ion Antonescu have been removed in recent years.

In Spain, authorities have set about renaming streets that commemorate Francisco Franco. In 2006, the Spanish parliament passed a law requiring every province in the country to remove Franco statues. (Most were already gone.)

King Leopold statues are coming down in Belgium.

In 1776 following a reading of the freshly written Declaration of Independence, a group of New Yorkers descended on Bowling Green in lower Manhattan and physically pulled down a statue of King George III.

On August 1, 1990, in Chervonohrad a Lenin monument was demolished for the first time in the USSR. Under popular pressure the monument was dismantled, formally with the purpose of moving elsewhere.

The Stalin Monument was a statue of Joseph Stalin in Budapest, Hungary. Completed in December 1951 as a "gift to Joseph Stalin from the Hungarians on his seventieth birthday", it was torn down on October 23, 1956 by enraged anti-Soviet crowds during Hungary's October Revolution.

[Cirque du So-What]

13. I defy this wingnut to find so much as a single statue

of a Soviet leader in Russia today.

[DavidDvorkin]

18. There are lots of them

Lenin, too.

[Cirque du So-What]

20. I stand corrected

Weren’t many statues of Soviet leaders taken down when the Soviet Union collapsed? I’m sure I read about it at the time.

[DavidDvorkin]

25. I think so

But a lot of them were outside Russia, in countries that had been part of the USSR. The situation appears to be different inside Russia, especially now, with Putin resurrecting reverence for the Soviet Union and its leaders.

[DavidDvorkin]

17. I hate to admit it, but there's some truth in what he says

No, not regarding statues of Hitler or other Nazis, but regarding statues of and other memorials to men who, long before the Nazis, murdered Jews or encouraged their murders.

[GeorgeGist]

23. Did he see any statues of Hitler other Nazi scum?

[Kaleva]

26. I thought travel to and from Europe was restricted?

[bobbieinok]

27. Went several times to Europe up to about 2 yrs ago

[DFW]

29. Restricted but not completely cut off.

My wife and I flew from Frankfurt to Boston two days ago.

[COLGATE4]

30. i swear I didn't see one bust of Hitler

mwhen I was in Germany last year. Strange...