July 2016 polls vs july 2020

[Garion_55]

I have been having to remind our right-wing friends about the polls in 2016 compared to now.

Whenever you try talkin about polls with them their final line is 90% chance Hillary was going to win... So the polls were wrong.


I don't even try to go there with them cuz they have no clue.


So I just get them talking about July's polls


July 2016 Trump had his convention around the 18th. After his convention was over he was up in the polls about 3%. Soon after the Democrats had their convention and then Hillary was back up about 3%.


Here is what didn't happen in July 2016. Hillary didn't have an 8 point lead... A 10-point lead... Holy crap a 12-point lead?


Hillary was not blowing out Trump by double digits in the summertime. She certainly wasn't blowing him out double-digits close to the election.


Trump is in serious grade A number one with a rocket trouble. If something doesn't change soon he is going to get wiped out the numbers are pointing that way.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. It's really depressing and surprising to remember

that *that* race was as close as it was

Too many people always seem willing to give lame a** Republicans a chance to govern after a successful Democratic Presidency instead of another highly qualified Democrat. I understand why people don't want to keep electing a succession of Republicans after they sh*t the bed but I don't get why they feel like they have to switch after a successful two-term Democratic Presidency. Do Republicans just get super-activated and we just get complacent and don't show up? If we as a country are doing well under Democratic Presidencies, why wouldn't we want that good streak to continue? I don't get it.

[ooky]

2. I find no point in talking to right wing people anymore.

They aren't interested in any fact or opinion that is outside of their bubble.

[NightWatcher]

3. The biggest difference is now everyone has seen what 4 years of donnie look like

I don't see it earning him any additional supporters.

I want this to be an epic blowout, so that if they steal, we storm the gates and take the WH back.