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So if Trump goes to Jail after he loses the election (Original Post) ace3csusm Jul 2020 OP
It won't happen. CentralMass Jul 2020 #1
Correct. Alacritous Crier Jul 2020 #2
+ struggle4progress Jul 2020 #23
i hope he does. I hope his room mate will be Big Bubbles trueblue2007 Jul 2020 #33
I doubt that he goes to jail. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #3
Biden has said he won't pardon the Idiot onetexan Jul 2020 #26
Biden also said that he will have his AG prosecute every yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #46
If he loses, he will resign before Jan. 20 so Pence can pardon him. malchickiwick Jul 2020 #4
Didnt think about that Pence would certainly do that ace3csusm Jul 2020 #6
I think Pence would safeinOhio Jul 2020 #24
i keep reading here senate or house marlakay Jul 2020 #27
Cool safeinOhio Jul 2020 #29
Do a quick read of the constitution. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #31
What state charges? former9thward Jul 2020 #7
I'm unsure of specifics, my point being a presidential pardon wouldn't protect him if there are any. malchickiwick Jul 2020 #11
That got your attention, didn't it? nt Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #12
It always does because some day I am hoping someone gives a reasonable answer. former9thward Jul 2020 #16
Tax fraud? Trump Foundation fraud? Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #17
Tax fraud? former9thward Jul 2020 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #36
This is the only forum I post on. former9thward Jul 2020 #38
He's an unindicted codefendant to the charges that put Cohen in prison. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #21
The Muelller investigation denied that but even if you thinik it was true former9thward Jul 2020 #37
You're right. But I believe, honestly, that there are tax and bank fraud at the state level. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #39
The rich and famous play by different rules than regular working people. Welcome to the USA. walkingman Jul 2020 #5
So freakin true RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2020 #41
Never happen and Trump knows it. Democrats don't want to set a precedent that would allow jalan48 Jul 2020 #8
Even Hillary Clinton doesn't touch it. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #10
It's unfortunate in the case of Trump as he deserves to go to jail. jalan48 Jul 2020 #14
Except I never see Democratic pull this kind of recklessness if if they did hold them accountable... ace3csusm Jul 2020 #13
The Republicans will create something like they did with Bill Clinton. They started with a failed jalan48 Jul 2020 #15
Democrats wouldn't be prosecuting him Takket Jul 2020 #34
It's if. If he loses. We got to work like we are 10 points down. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #9
You got that right! Chainfire Jul 2020 #20
OK, consider this: MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #18
He is not going to jail Chainfire Jul 2020 #19
we ARE in a banana republic right now. I want him in jail one way or the other. And i'm not alone. onetexan Jul 2020 #28
Correct this now set a precedence to allow next President to do what ever he wants and do the same ace3csusm Jul 2020 #40
This is America MyNameGoesHere Jul 2020 #22
I'd settle for the rest of his family. safeinOhio Jul 2020 #25
George W Bush did not spend one day in jail for his war crimes. totodeinhere Jul 2020 #30
He will never see jail. But will have something worse. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #32
Something you are neglecting... jmowreader Jul 2020 #42
That would be something. The Secret Service does not play around GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #43
The Secret Service has never had to guard someone like this disaster before, either jmowreader Jul 2020 #44
Yeah, that's not happening with the Secret Service. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #45

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
3. I doubt that he goes to jail.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jul 2020

Nixon was pardoned, Dumbya gets interviewed about his paintings after all of the needless deaths in Iraq, etc.

I hope that Trump has to wear a jumpsuit that matches his skin, but I have strong doubts.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
46. Biden also said that he will have his AG prosecute every
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:03 AM
Jul 2020

all the minions (paraphrase) Even if Fatso has been pardoned by Pensive there are still a lot of others out there.

And then there is NY

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
4. If he loses, he will resign before Jan. 20 so Pence can pardon him.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:46 PM
Jul 2020

However, that will not protect him from state charges

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
6. Didnt think about that Pence would certainly do that
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jul 2020

and also pardon the entire cabinet that did wrong doing, they will follow that with "now need to heal the nation speech "...

safeinOhio

(32,669 posts)
24. I think Pence would
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 09:03 PM
Jul 2020

name a new VP and the resign. He knows Fords pardon of Nixon what’s the end of his career.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
11. I'm unsure of specifics, my point being a presidential pardon wouldn't protect him if there are any.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jul 2020

The NY AG has already opened an investigation into banking fraud.

The office of Attorney General Letitia James of New York issued a subpoena to Deutsche Bank, opening a new front in the scrutiny of its relationship with President Trump.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
16. It always does because some day I am hoping someone gives a reasonable answer.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jul 2020

I have asked the question many, many times and so far no one gives an answer supported by any evidence or legal theory.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
35. Tax fraud?
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jul 2020

The trump tax returns have been in the hands of the NY IRS and Federal IRS for decades. The have been audited. How come no charges? Trump Foundation was a civil matter, not criminal, and was settled.

Response to former9thward (Reply #35)

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
38. This is the only forum I post on.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:40 PM
Jul 2020

What is the other political forum since you are making a personal smear charge and coming up with a CT?

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
37. The Muelller investigation denied that but even if you thinik it was true
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:38 PM
Jul 2020

Cohen was charged with federal crimes not state, which is what we are talking about here.

Nevilledog

(51,064 posts)
39. You're right. But I believe, honestly, that there are tax and bank fraud at the state level.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:51 PM
Jul 2020

I'm assuming Vance has reasons to get trump's tax documents. Also falsification of business documents as relayed (fingers crossed) by Weisselberg.

All of us will find out yay or nay in the future.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,667 posts)
41. So freakin true
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020

We can only hope Karma gets him.

They have to keep propping up the President, we can't actually have criminal presidents...which is weird because Rule of law and nobody is supposed to be above it.

jalan48

(13,856 posts)
8. Never happen and Trump knows it. Democrats don't want to set a precedent that would allow
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jul 2020

Republicans to retaliate after the next Democratic President leaves office.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
10. Even Hillary Clinton doesn't touch it.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:06 PM
Jul 2020

She recently stated how she wanted to help put Trump on the golf courses again, with no mention of actual punishment.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
13. Except I never see Democratic pull this kind of recklessness if if they did hold them accountable...
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jul 2020

This has to be done otherwise the next one could be worst...

jalan48

(13,856 posts)
15. The Republicans will create something like they did with Bill Clinton. They started with a failed
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:11 PM
Jul 2020

land deal and wound up with sex in the White House thanks to a miked-up Linda Tripp.

Takket

(21,553 posts)
34. Democrats wouldn't be prosecuting him
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

The NY AG would. Granted that person is a Democrat but what I mean is Biden and his AG would not be doing the prosecuting (mainly because drumpf will be pardoned of all Fed charges).

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
18. OK, consider this:
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:23 PM
Jul 2020

IF he loses, AND he goes to jail:
The Trump Presidential Libarary will be delivered on a cart - who knows, it could be Barr, Cohen, Manafort, Stone, etc., etc......

Chainfire

(17,527 posts)
19. He is not going to jail
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:28 PM
Jul 2020

All Federal charges will go away between election day and inauguration day. Trump's last action could be to resign and depend on his number 2 flunky to issue a blanket pardon. While he may not, in fact, be able to pardon himself, there is no reason Pence, as the new President for a day, couldn't.

I just wan't the clown out of office. It would be unseemly for an ex-American President, even Trump, to be in jail; that is something that happens in banana republics.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
40. Correct this now set a precedence to allow next President to do what ever he wants and do the same
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

until we hold them accountable this will continue... we can continue to be a republic if we can hold on to it...

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
22. This is America
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jul 2020

We only talk a tough game. When it comes down to it we would never want to jail the king. We never really meant that ALL are created equal.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
30. George W Bush did not spend one day in jail for his war crimes.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 09:25 PM
Jul 2020

And Trump will never spend one day in jail for his crimes. President Biden may not pardon him but he knows that putting Trump in jail would completely tear this country apart and make his job of governing impossible. As much as we wish it will happen it will not happen. And Trump knows it.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
32. He will never see jail. But will have something worse.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 09:57 PM
Jul 2020

He will be disgraced and have no pull. The banks, or Russians, will refuse to extend anymore credit.

Unless he finds a way to grift his crazy supporters, he will die a broke and broken man.

Because the few supporters he has left will never provide enough money to support his lifestyle.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
42. Something you are neglecting...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

Trump owes money to the Russian mafia. As long as he’s in office he can do favors for them and pay them back that way. If he’s voted out, that ends.

I think he’ll be murdered within six months of leaving office. They want their fuckin’ money and Trump isn’t capable of producing it.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
44. The Secret Service has never had to guard someone like this disaster before, either
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jul 2020

"Sarge, we don't know what happened. I mean, we looked away for just a second and he'd fallen on a knife nineteen times and fell down the stairs 27 times."

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
45. Yeah, that's not happening with the Secret Service.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jul 2020

I knew someone retired from them. They take their job very seriously.

Not saying the Russians could not get him. But can’t see them trying against the Secret Service.

At that point it will be meaningless. He has no money.

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