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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:33 PM Jul 2020

Nearly a Third of Americans With Covid-19 Are Hospitalized.

The White House's lie of the moment is that COVID-19 is that 99 percent of COVID-19 cases "are totally harmless.” After Trump made that claim, the White House has continued to double down on this claim. Of course, while they make this claim based upon the roughly 1 to 2 percent fatality rate, this ignores that over a fourth of people who are diagnosed with COVID-19 become so ill that they need to be hospitalized. That is not "totally harmless."

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/nearly-a-third-of-americans-with-covid-19-are-hospitalized.-here-are-the-latest-numbers.

U.S. hospitalizations continue to grow. But slowing new case numbers in America has buoyed investor confidence Monday. U.S. hospitalizations continue to grow. But slowing new case numbers in America has buoyed investor confidence Monday.

There have been more than 41,000 hospitalizations in the U.S. for Covid-19 coronavirus infections, up about 3,000 over the past day according to the Covid Tracking Project.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or CDC, is tracking patients and recently released hospitalization statistics based on underlying medical conditions such as diabetes and lung disease, among others.

The CDC data offers a look at who is most at risk for hospitalization. And a recent study shows about 30% of infections studied ended up requiring hospitalization.



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Nearly a Third of Americans With Covid-19 Are Hospitalized. (Original Post) TomCADem Jul 2020 OP
99% harmless, my ass dalton99a Jul 2020 #1
CNN: Nurse shares photos of how Covid ravages the body TomCADem Jul 2020 #3
That story is from early April. n/t blitzen Jul 2020 #2
CDC analysis shows coronavirus poses serious risk for younger people TomCADem Jul 2020 #5
The article you are quoting is from April. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #4
WHO: Knowing the risks for COVID-19 TomCADem Jul 2020 #6
Given that so far in this country PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #7
San Diego County Latest Data Has a 11 Percent Hospitalization Rate TomCADem Jul 2020 #8
when retweeted from the article link becomes a dead link. ny yaesu Jul 2020 #9
I'd call both numbers lies FBaggins Jul 2020 #10

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
3. CNN: Nurse shares photos of how Covid ravages the body
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:39 PM
Jul 2020

Just because you do not die, does not mean that COVID-19 is harmless:

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
5. CDC analysis shows coronavirus poses serious risk for younger people
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:53 PM
Jul 2020

Why would the rate of hospitalization change? That should stay relatively constant. What would change is the total number of infections. Even if young people have a significant risk of being hospitalized if they get COVID-19:

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488325-cdc-data-show-coronavirus-poses-serious-risk-for-younger-people

Early data analyzed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows that younger Americans are at substantial risk of experiencing serious medical problems from the coronavirus sweeping the globe.

That data runs counter to some of the early messaging from public health officials in other parts of the world.

A new CDC analysis of more than 2,400 cases of COVID-19 that have occurred in the United States in the last month shows that between 1 in 7 and 1 in 5 people between the ages of 20 and 44 in the sample of those who are confirmed cases require hospitalization, a level significantly higher than the hospitalization rates for influenza. The true percentage of young people who require hospitalization is likely much less, because many remain asymptomatic.

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Health outcomes are much worse among those who are older and those who have underlying health conditions. The early estimates show that a fifth to a third of those between the ages of 45 and 65 who contract the disease are hospitalized. Among those over 75 years old, hospitalization estimates range from 30 percent to more than 70 percent.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
4. The article you are quoting is from April.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jul 2020

So the percentages quoted are very out out date. As more and more people are being diagnosed, we're seeing the spread of the disease, but the percentage of those being hospitalized is going down.

Here's what I look at frequently: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

It's important to stay up on the changing numbers.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
6. WHO: Knowing the risks for COVID-19
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jul 2020

Even if you look at international figures from the WHO, you still get about a 20 percent rate of hospitalization:

https://www.who.int/indonesia/news/detail/08-03-2020-knowing-the-risk-for-covid-19

The Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) outbreak is still evolving globally and remains a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC). Like many other Member States around the world, Indonesia is preparing to respond to additional cases and possible widespread transmission of the disease.

As cases of COVID-19 continue to climb, public concern in Indonesia regarding the severity of the disease and population vulnerability is also growing.

The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, tiredness, and dry cough. Some patients may have aches and pains, nasal congestion, runny nose, or sore throat. These symptoms are usually mild and begin gradually. Most people (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing special treatment, and for the majority – especially for children and young adults – illness due to COVID-19 is generally minor.

However, for some people it can cause serious illness. Around 1 in every 5 people who are infected with COVID-19 develop difficulty in breathing and require hospital care.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
7. Given that so far in this country
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:00 AM
Jul 2020

More than one and a half million people have been diagnosed, I somehow don't think we've had 300,000 people requiring hospital care so far.

I'm not trying to deny the seriousness of this, but I am trying to get people to understand numbers and statistics. Yes, it's bad, but don't inflate the numbers.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
8. San Diego County Latest Data Has a 11 Percent Hospitalization Rate
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:32 AM
Jul 2020

They have 17,000 confirmed cases with 1,912 hospitalized and 387 dead. So, there are 4.9 times more hospitalized then dead.

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/community_epidemiology/dc/2019-nCoV/status.html

If you were to multiply the 130,000 dead in the U.S. by 4.9, then you would have about over half a million hospitalized.

So, I think we easily have 300,000 people requiring hospital care, because that number will necessarily include many of the 130,000 who died.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
10. I'd call both numbers lies
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jul 2020

Far more than 1% of infections are NOT "harmless"... but it's also true that nowhere near 1/3 of those with Covid-19 end up hospitalized (even if you only counted those who tested positive).

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