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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNearly a Third of Americans With Covid-19 Are Hospitalized.
The White House's lie of the moment is that COVID-19 is that 99 percent of COVID-19 cases "are totally harmless. After Trump made that claim, the White House has continued to double down on this claim. Of course, while they make this claim based upon the roughly 1 to 2 percent fatality rate, this ignores that over a fourth of people who are diagnosed with COVID-19 become so ill that they need to be hospitalized. That is not "totally harmless."
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/nearly-a-third-of-americans-with-covid-19-are-hospitalized.-here-are-the-latest-numbers.
There have been more than 41,000 hospitalizations in the U.S. for Covid-19 coronavirus infections, up about 3,000 over the past day according to the Covid Tracking Project.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or CDC, is tracking patients and recently released hospitalization statistics based on underlying medical conditions such as diabetes and lung disease, among others.
The CDC data offers a look at who is most at risk for hospitalization. And a recent study shows about 30% of infections studied ended up requiring hospitalization.
dalton99a
(81,451 posts)TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Just because you do not die, does not mean that COVID-19 is harmless:
blitzen
(4,572 posts)TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Why would the rate of hospitalization change? That should stay relatively constant. What would change is the total number of infections. Even if young people have a significant risk of being hospitalized if they get COVID-19:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488325-cdc-data-show-coronavirus-poses-serious-risk-for-younger-people
That data runs counter to some of the early messaging from public health officials in other parts of the world.
A new CDC analysis of more than 2,400 cases of COVID-19 that have occurred in the United States in the last month shows that between 1 in 7 and 1 in 5 people between the ages of 20 and 44 in the sample of those who are confirmed cases require hospitalization, a level significantly higher than the hospitalization rates for influenza. The true percentage of young people who require hospitalization is likely much less, because many remain asymptomatic.
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Health outcomes are much worse among those who are older and those who have underlying health conditions. The early estimates show that a fifth to a third of those between the ages of 45 and 65 who contract the disease are hospitalized. Among those over 75 years old, hospitalization estimates range from 30 percent to more than 70 percent.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)So the percentages quoted are very out out date. As more and more people are being diagnosed, we're seeing the spread of the disease, but the percentage of those being hospitalized is going down.
Here's what I look at frequently: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
It's important to stay up on the changing numbers.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Even if you look at international figures from the WHO, you still get about a 20 percent rate of hospitalization:
https://www.who.int/indonesia/news/detail/08-03-2020-knowing-the-risk-for-covid-19
As cases of COVID-19 continue to climb, public concern in Indonesia regarding the severity of the disease and population vulnerability is also growing.
The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, tiredness, and dry cough. Some patients may have aches and pains, nasal congestion, runny nose, or sore throat. These symptoms are usually mild and begin gradually. Most people (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing special treatment, and for the majority especially for children and young adults illness due to COVID-19 is generally minor.
However, for some people it can cause serious illness. Around 1 in every 5 people who are infected with COVID-19 develop difficulty in breathing and require hospital care.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)More than one and a half million people have been diagnosed, I somehow don't think we've had 300,000 people requiring hospital care so far.
I'm not trying to deny the seriousness of this, but I am trying to get people to understand numbers and statistics. Yes, it's bad, but don't inflate the numbers.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)They have 17,000 confirmed cases with 1,912 hospitalized and 387 dead. So, there are 4.9 times more hospitalized then dead.
https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/community_epidemiology/dc/2019-nCoV/status.html
If you were to multiply the 130,000 dead in the U.S. by 4.9, then you would have about over half a million hospitalized.
So, I think we easily have 300,000 people requiring hospital care, because that number will necessarily include many of the 130,000 who died.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)FBaggins
(26,727 posts)Far more than 1% of infections are NOT "harmless"... but it's also true that nowhere near 1/3 of those with Covid-19 end up hospitalized (even if you only counted those who tested positive).