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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:08 PM Jul 2020

McConnell: "Look ... they're not gonna wave a magic wand and it's gonna disappear ... put on a mask.




I mean sorry, what was that, what's changed guys, you have been saying the opposite for months..........Donald has been telling us daily, it is going to go away on its own.
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McConnell: "Look ... they're not gonna wave a magic wand and it's gonna disappear ... put on a mask. (Original Post) sunonmars Jul 2020 OP
Fuck you, Mitch SouthernCal_Dem Jul 2020 #1
"I don't want to die" dalton99a Jul 2020 #2
Or "I don't want to lose the election" fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #9
So what Moscow Mitch is saying is..... leftieNanner Jul 2020 #3
Bingo. dalton99a Jul 2020 #4
the "look..." moment RT Atlanta Jul 2020 #5
trying to save his own ass by distancing himself from the sinking ship that is trump EleanorR Jul 2020 #6
The Rumor Was By Labor Day... ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #13
FL, AZ, and TX forced their hand. Can't manage the economy without managing the virus EleanorR Jul 2020 #17
This is called the TRUTH winning out, in time. nt coti Jul 2020 #7
He can't comprehend ethics guidelines, but he can understand polls. denbot Jul 2020 #8
Bingo! peggysue2 Jul 2020 #12
No matter how long I live. I'll never understand how someone with the charisma of my left ball Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #10
You and me both. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #14
I swear! I'm starting to become a "believer". nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #15
...um, 2naSalit Jul 2020 #18
Oh definitely! And try as he might. He won't even get to "right ball levels". Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #24
Not capable of that in a million earth lives! 2naSalit Jul 2020 #25
Too late, Mass Murder Mitch. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #11
What are you talking about, Senator? gratuitous Jul 2020 #16
And that horrendous 2naSalit Jul 2020 #19
He is in a Senate race JonLP24 Jul 2020 #20
Fuck off and die, Mitch. Take the Republican Party with you. hunter Jul 2020 #21
A simple question to all of those condemning this statement - Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #22
I'll take a shot at a simple answer gratuitous Jul 2020 #26
All that may well be true - but it misses the point. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #27
I thought I answered that gratuitous Jul 2020 #28
They are hearing it from people whose political motives they distrust. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #31
Isn't it interesting how the tune changes Hav Jul 2020 #23
Been in a coma, mitch? spanone Jul 2020 #29
Why doesn't the GOP initiate another impeachment or PufPuf23 Jul 2020 #30
Goldman Sachs issued a report last week (or the week before) endorsing masks... SMC22307 Jul 2020 #32

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
9. Or "I don't want to lose the election"
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jul 2020

Why did he wait so long to mention masks? Why is the turtle just now talking about another stimulus package for people making less that $40,000?

He knows they're gonna get trounced in November.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
3. So what Moscow Mitch is saying is.....
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jul 2020

All those pilfered millions of $$$ are no good to me if I catch this damned thing and DIE!

Thanks for thinking about your constituents, Mitch. And the rest of us.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
5. the "look..." moment
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jul 2020

when reality finally dawns on a politician and they begrudgingly acknowledge what is going on (finally! and likely have many have been unnecessarily harmed/killed) and lead their acknowledgement with that word.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
6. trying to save his own ass by distancing himself from the sinking ship that is trump
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jul 2020

Four months and 130,000 deaths too late, asshole.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
13. The Rumor Was By Labor Day...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jul 2020

...they would see some turn around, or they distance themselves.
This sounds like an early warning shot.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
17. FL, AZ, and TX forced their hand. Can't manage the economy without managing the virus
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jul 2020

Simply trying to manage perception is a bust.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
12. Bingo!
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:57 PM
Jul 2020

McConnell can read the GOP's internal polls. He knows there is a rout coming, a Mega Tsunami that will sweep his party into the Deep Blue Sea.

As for the sudden round about? Too little, too late. Pretty much sums up the Republican Party's response to the virus, aka Donald Trump.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
10. No matter how long I live. I'll never understand how someone with the charisma of my left ball
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jul 2020

can keep getting elected and re-elected. The masochism must just run that deep.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. You and me both.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jul 2020

I am beginning to think that it's actually possible to make real-life pacts with the Devil.

2naSalit

(86,561 posts)
18. ...um,
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jul 2020

I don't know about the charisma in your left one but I'm sure MM has so little it doesn't even register on the charismatron!





gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. What are you talking about, Senator?
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jul 2020

The man you left to govern the country said the pandemic would be all over by Easter. Thanks again for that kangaroo court you conducted.

2naSalit

(86,561 posts)
19. And that horrendous
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jul 2020

SOTU pep rally!?! Seriously, if you think we've forgotten all that has come to pass since 01/01/2020, you've got a rude awakening coming, sportsfan.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
22. A simple question to all of those condemning this statement -
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 04:31 PM
Jul 2020

Do you care about people's lives - or is this (as the Republicans allege) all political to you?

Should he have said it earlier? absolutely.
Should he be doing more? Definitely.


Does saying it now make it more or less likely that his supporters will wear masks? More. That will save lives. So stop condemning the statement just because it should have been made months ago, unless you care more about politics than about saving lives.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
26. I'll take a shot at a simple answer
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jul 2020

I think McConnell is just back-filling. He's spent the last several months nodding and smiling along as Trump flailed about trying to make the pandemic go away like magic. Now he comes out with one reasonable statement to stack up against weeks and weeks of supporting Trump's madness. Talk is notoriously cheap, and my hunch is that McConnell is saying this only to provide cover somewhere down the line for accusations that he was far too complacent.

Will his supporters suddenly have the scales fall from their eyes and they will begin wearing masks? To this point, it appears that the folks in McConnell's camp long ago stopped at the point of maximum comfort for themselves and one brief statement from McConnell isn't going to move them off their "masks are tyranny!" safe (not safe) space.

I'll reconsider if this isn't just a one-off from McConnell, and he starts showing some real interest in the public health, and getting his Senate to move on legislation that provides for people who are out of work, supports the medical people, and gets a comprehensive program of testing, tracing, and isolating instituted (if it's not too late). Based on his career record, however, I think McConnell is far more likely to let this one statement disappear into the ether, and a couple of weeks later just shrug and lie, "Well, I tried."

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
27. All that may well be true - but it misses the point.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jul 2020

Will his statement make it more - or less - likely that his followers will wear masks?

ANY increase in mask wearing saves lives. So his statement will save lives, and the statement itself should be supported - not condemned.

His motives are completely political and also completely irrelevant. It is trivially obvious that his statement is likely to save more lives than if he hadn't made the statement. So opposing it and condemning it as too little, too late is just as politically motivated as his statement was in the first place - just as conservatives allege. We need to focus on saving lives, not scoring political points.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
28. I thought I answered that
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jul 2020

I think McConnell's followers have heard all they're going to hear on the subject of masks, and one statement from McConnell isn't going to move them off their position (masks are tyranny) in my opinion. I'm open to the possibility that it will make a difference if McConnell follows through and becomes a much more forceful advocate for the public health measures that the professionals have been advocating for months. A one-off statement while the Senate is out of session is very weak tea.

I liken it to Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka when he deadpans, "No, wait, stop" when one of the naughty children is about to do something self-destructive. It's the right thing to say, but the audience for the statement isn't listening, and Wonka doesn't mean for them to listen.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
31. They are hearing it from people whose political motives they distrust.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 07:44 PM
Jul 2020

That is not the case with McConnell. With McConnell, they are hearing it from one of their own.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
23. Isn't it interesting how the tune changes
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jul 2020

once the red states get wrecked by Corona? So much glee and downplaying from their side when it was mostly blue/purple states suffering.

PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
30. Why doesn't the GOP initiate another impeachment or
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jul 2020

another method to force Trump from office now McConnell?

You are full bull goose looney complicit. Apologies to bulls, geese, looneys, and turtles.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
32. Goldman Sachs issued a report last week (or the week before) endorsing masks...
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 07:46 PM
Jul 2020

to help the economy. THAT is what changed.

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