Now that you've celebrated the SC rulings, here's a dose of reality

[brooklynite]

1. Trump won't turn over tax documents any time soon (and likely not before the Election). In both cases, The Court supported the RIGHT to access his tax and financial records, but allowed Trump to continue his legal challenges in lower Courts.

2. If Trump does hand over tax and financial documents, you won't see them.

[soothsayer]

1. That's fine, I just want ny to arrest him someday

[FarPoint]

2. Vance will get them..

He fought for the SNY District...not us...He won.

[SoonerPride]

5. No, that case was remanded back to district courts.

So he won't get any tax returns for years.

[FarPoint]

8. Vance to give a statement in a few minutes..

I will be listening for clarification.

[MoonlitKnight]

3. Even if they came out today

His 40% won’t care.

[Kali]

4. at this point it is just about the sound bites

so saying he lost twice today by his own appointees is still a win and you know he is taking it that way by his twit behavior so it is all good.

[Mike 03]

15. Yep.

Besides, I think most everybody here understood we wouldn't see the tax returns ourselves.

The important thing is that forensic accountants comb over it with the cooperation of Deutsche Bank.

[cbdo2007]

6. I'm guessing the taxes get leaked before the election now

[C_U_L8R]

7. Vance is on it.

I expect Congress will be too.

With no valid reason to hide, this is political poison for Trump through his re-election bid.

[NightWatcher]

9. They're not getting the records from him or waiting for him to provide.

This was to get them from companies that we know have them on file.

[MFM008]

10. LEAKS HAPPEN

[Jirel]

11. A different dose of reality -

Do we need to see them before the election? No. Would it change the votes of his corrupt, hard-core base? No. Would it change the votes of anyone who is already fed up with his gross incompetence and malignancy? No. Would it bring “apolitical” people to the polls? No - they already are tuned out and would pay no attention to financial details.

This is a big win because it ends the debate over presidential immunity. As in, there is none. This has huge implications for Dump, now and going forward. Among other things, it allows him to be tied up in legal knots and tremendous worries through election season. It keeps the cases against him - and the stories about them - going through the campaign season.

It’s not a total smack in the face of requiring immediate disclosure, which would be ever so satisfying to us and humiliating to him. But in the end it’s still a big win.

[writes3000]

13. You are 100% correct on all of this.

[Mike 03]

16. Agree.

[kpete]

12. Eventually

After he is defeated - he will go to jail

[dsc]

14. The House lawyer f'ed up this case

He was asked for a reason repeatedly and gave nada. Well here is a reason, one that I and other said back when this was first being discussed. Trump has gone around for years saying he has been audited every year for decades. Yet no tax cases were brought, no fines were paid, no settlements offered. So either, the IRS is auditing people for no good reason, or legitimate tax cases aren't being brought. Congress can't know which is true without seeing the returns. He is the only person saying this so his returns are needed. Had he said this, we would have those returns today.

[sarcasmo]

17. Cyrus Vance will see the tax returns and expedite the case.

[2naSalit]

18. He's not handing them over...

Isn't this about a third party responding to subpoena?

I just heard Nina Totenberg (sp?) explain that the docs are heading to the grand jury right now.

[lettucebe]

19. I don't need to see them; the state court is where the fun begins and they DO get to see them

State court is not controlled by the feds, so no pardons coming. He's going down like many before him. Tax fraud. No way he didn't commit massive tax fraud, so put a fork in it, he's done.

[blogslut]

20. He won't release his bank records, it is true

But Deutche Bank will.

[BannonsLiver]

21. I'm not sure why you think this is some revelation.

[Kingofalldems]

22. Here's a dose for you: Trump lost.

He can't claim immunity forever.