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Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:34 AM Jul 2020

Why I am feeling pretty damn good about the two 7-2 decisions in SCOTUS today :)

Before I give my reasonings.. I know many will be disappointed because he is not being frog marched out of the white house at this very moment... I get it.. I would have loved that also..but that was not going to happen..


What did happen is awesome.. getting 7-2 decisions in both cases on Donald Trump and his papers and taxes,,

I am really happy about the New York verdict.. If there was ever a place that could put Trump and family behind bars.. and or expose them for the criminals they are, it is New York... Barr must be beside himself. CY Vance will be out for blood.

Even the congressional hearing that sends it back to the lower courts.. is a win for us..because all nine justices said a president is not above the law, ..he may get to push it off before the election and tie it up in lower courts..but he is in for the full hit if he gets a second term..

Besides this gives VP Biden who has released at least 20 years of his taxes more bats to hit the Donald over the head with..

7-2.. both of Trumps picks gave him a kick in the shins..

Dang I am almost considering going out and buying a lottery ticket..

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Why I am feeling pretty damn good about the two 7-2 decisions in SCOTUS today :) (Original Post) Peacetrain Jul 2020 OP
And Really, What Effect Would Seeing His Taxes Before the Election Have Had? Skraxx Jul 2020 #1
I am grinning ear to ear so hard my face is starting to hurt Peacetrain Jul 2020 #2
Yup EarlG Jul 2020 #4
Amen to that!!! Peacetrain Jul 2020 #7
Speaking of Russian Bounties... Catch2.2 Jul 2020 #15
IF we win in November Dopers_Greed Jul 2020 #17
Don't be so sure with your "guaranteed".. Cha Jul 2020 #20
This! BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #19
Trump Won, Mission Accomplished PNW-Dem Jul 2020 #26
The longer it hangs over his head the avebury Jul 2020 #3
That is what my husband said.. this is just going to be the toothache that never stops hurting Peacetrain Jul 2020 #8
I'm very happy about the NY Vance decision. vlyons Jul 2020 #5
oh did not think of that!! Peacetrain Jul 2020 #9
See his *future* here Lock him up. Jul 2020 #18
He aint going to jail. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #23
"but he is in for the full hit if he gets a second term.." sop Jul 2020 #6
But his family can.. and he will be up to his ears in it.. Peacetrain Jul 2020 #10
According to the pollsters disndat Jul 2020 #16
Ok, thanks for this........I need a sharper mind then mine to feel better about these decisions. a kennedy Jul 2020 #11
Somedays its just good to be us!! Peacetrain Jul 2020 #12
Much better than the two 7-2 decisions yesterday Polybius Jul 2020 #13
'Made it Ma!' Scurrilous Jul 2020 #14
lol Cha Jul 2020 #21
Hey you! Scurrilous Jul 2020 #24
Heh Patriot! Cha Jul 2020 #27
Hey Cha!!! wonder if he has gotten over it yet or it has occurred to him Peacetrain Jul 2020 #31
ROFL!! love it!!! Peacetrain Jul 2020 #30
I'm feeling pretty good too. Scurrilous Jul 2020 #32
He's not happy that his 2 picks have gone "against" his wishes a few major times oldsoftie Jul 2020 #22
Oh you know that is right!!! Peacetrain Jul 2020 #29
Peace, you are exactly right. It was a great decision for our constitutional Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #25
Ahh thanks Demsrule... It has given me hope that everything is Peacetrain Jul 2020 #28

Skraxx

(2,965 posts)
1. And Really, What Effect Would Seeing His Taxes Before the Election Have Had?
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jul 2020

None. None at all. If Russian bounties won't sway some people, how would taxes?

EarlG

(21,894 posts)
4. Yup
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

We've already got him on the ropes in the election anyway. This is about the personal ramifications for Trump, which are now looking severe. He's one step closer to getting his just desserts, and the power of the presidency can't protect him from what's coming.

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
15. Speaking of Russian Bounties...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jul 2020

Can we have an investigation into that?! You know, like how the Rethugs did with Benghazi.

Cha

(295,904 posts)
20. Don't be so sure with your "guaranteed"..
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:30 AM
Jul 2020
Biden says he would not pardon Trump

Biden committed to ensuring that any prosecutorial decisions would be dictated by the law, in contrast to what he called the "dereliction of duty” by Trump and his attorney general, William Barr.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-says-he-would-not-pardon-trump-n1207531

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
26. Trump Won, Mission Accomplished
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jul 2020

Trump won by losing. He’s successfully been able to keep his taxes secret through two election cycles.

I disagree that it wouldn’t have an effect before the election. Unlike other revelations (i.e. bountygate), Trump isn’t a billionaire which is counter to one of the main reasons his base supports him. Needless to say, the disclosure would have much more dirt that just his net worth.

Our only hope is that Cy Vance moves quickly (and SCOTUS cooperates) to get info out before the election. Will Cy Vance be willing to influence an election outcome? Who knows.

The whole situation stinks, an amazing level of corruption that I never thought I would see in my country.

avebury

(10,946 posts)
3. The longer it hangs over his head the
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jul 2020

better for us going into November. I prefer a Presidential candidates who are not under criminal investigation. I prefer Presidential candidates who aren’t total failures at everything they do.

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
8. That is what my husband said.. this is just going to be the toothache that never stops hurting
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jul 2020

for Trump..he is going to be crazed

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. I'm very happy about the NY Vance decision.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020

It means that his taxes will probably get leaked. And if the NY grand jury returns an indictment, that Trump and family will eventually face prosecution, and Barr can't do a damn thing about it.

We have the possibility that one day Trump will get a 3 minute prison haircut with electric clippers. That's the picture, post haircut, that I yearn to see. Plus he'll sit in a very small gray cell 23 hrs a day feeling sorry for himself for years and years and years.

sop

(9,946 posts)
6. "but he is in for the full hit if he gets a second term.."
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jul 2020

If he gets a second term he can't be prosecuted.

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
10. But his family can.. and he will be up to his ears in it..
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jul 2020

Vance will get the Trump group.. I have not a worry about that,, plus, at this rate, he will not be re-elected as long a we keep getting the vote out.. and I feel good about how energized our Democrats are

disndat

(1,887 posts)
16. According to the pollsters
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jul 2020

as of yesterday Biden has been projected to have won the Electoral College.

a kennedy

(29,462 posts)
11. Ok, thanks for this........I need a sharper mind then mine to feel better about these decisions.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jul 2020

Thanks for your reasonings.......makes me feel a ton better.

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
31. Hey Cha!!! wonder if he has gotten over it yet or it has occurred to him
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jul 2020

that the judiciary is putting him in his place

Demsrule86

(68,348 posts)
25. Peace, you are exactly right. It was a great decision for our constitutional
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jul 2020

Republic. Barr and others tried to say the president was above the law. SCOTUS in a 9-0 opinion (that part was 9-0) said no the president enjoys only those rights that all Americans enjoy..not 'extra' rights. Thomas and Alito thought the president should enjoy some deference in these matters ...hence the 7-2 overall ruling. K&R Great OP.

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
28. Ahh thanks Demsrule... It has given me hope that everything is
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:03 AM
Jul 2020

not completely collapsing under the destructive Trumpians.. The current resident of the White House thinks he is a king.. he is just a peon like the rest of us when it comes to matters of the law.. I bet he was spitting teeth when that ruling came down.. what a dufus

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