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Now I'm nervous about Biden's ratings once he selects his VP... (Original Post) Dream Girl Jul 2020 OP
Don't fret. Trust Joe. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #1
THIS X1000 Zoonart Jul 2020 #2
I can not wait. It's gonna be fabulous!! Historic. LakeArenal Jul 2020 #3
will be zero issue for all us who want trump and gop GONE beachbumbob Jul 2020 #4
Why? Selecting a black woman will only help him. fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #5
Yeah. It's not like Trumpsters are saying: "If'n he picks a white guy, I'm votin' fer Joe!" Aristus Jul 2020 #8
I've always felt way too, but now I'm not so sure. Misogyny killed Hillary's candidacy...now Dream Girl Jul 2020 #18
Oh good lawd. demmiblue Jul 2020 #21
It's not a whole new game. It's already been narrowed down to maybe The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #6
Susan Rice, Kamala Harris, Val Demings, or Stacey Abrams.... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2020 #11
I think it may be Tammy Duckworth. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #17
i agree obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #29
Biden has beaten the female Hillary and Black Obama losses/costs. empedocles Jul 2020 #7
No. Table IS set. He can choose whoever will be the most helpful at cleaning blm Jul 2020 #9
Got a feeling that all of them safeinOhio Jul 2020 #28
It's hard not to worry. Pace yourself. bluedye33139 Jul 2020 #10
Eh I'm more worried about people getting angry because Joe didn't follow their script BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #12
can you imagine the campaign saying this? bigtree Jul 2020 #13
No. demmiblue Jul 2020 #14
Joe's been in politics for 50 years. He knows all about politics. He knows what he's doing. PSPS Jul 2020 #15
You're in the absolutely wrong place to bring up something like that. brush Jul 2020 #16
Check yourself and watch your language. I'm a black woman and I've been all in for a black woman Dream Girl Jul 2020 #20
Now you're second guessing that assessment. What does that mean? brush Jul 2020 #25
Good point. I just want Trump gone so bad, They sometimes overthink it, but I don't expect much from Dream Girl Jul 2020 #30
A black woman choice would help Biden. trump's racist base... brush Jul 2020 #31
I'm excited about his coming ratings. I s'pose we cancel each other out. LanternWaste Jul 2020 #19
+1 ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #26
The folks that would be bothered by him picking a black woman as VP.... Captain Stern Jul 2020 #22
They'll get it right! Music Man Jul 2020 #23
Toughen up! rufus dog Jul 2020 #24
In my view the best choice would be a black woman who ... Tennessee Hillbilly Jul 2020 #27

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
5. Why? Selecting a black woman will only help him.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jul 2020

And I am here for it! I will be extremely upset if he doesn't choose a black woman, and I'm white.

Now is the time!

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
8. Yeah. It's not like Trumpsters are saying: "If'n he picks a white guy, I'm votin' fer Joe!"
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

They won't vote for him in a million years.

This is actually very liberating. It means Joe Biden can choose anyone he wants to, and it won't move the needle on Trumpsters if he chooses a woman of color.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
18. I've always felt way too, but now I'm not so sure. Misogyny killed Hillary's candidacy...now
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jul 2020

We’ll be dealing with misogyny and racism

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
6. It's not a whole new game. It's already been narrowed down to maybe
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jul 2020

six or so women, and they have all been analyzed ad nauseam. Chances are better than even that he selects a PoC, probably but not necessarily a Black woman (Tammy Duckworth is Asian), but in any event the probable candidates have already been identified and the final choice is not likely to be a huge surprise. Whoever it is will be a solid choice but not everybody will be perfectly satisfied. That's the way these things work.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
11. Susan Rice, Kamala Harris, Val Demings, or Stacey Abrams....
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jul 2020

All uniquely qualified in areas that will be a winning ticket.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. Biden has beaten the female Hillary and Black Obama losses/costs.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jul 2020

trump desperately needs another easy, risible, scapegoat target -
As in the 'Democrat Party is trying to trick you into voting for 1 term Biden, and 2nd term: Black, Female, Muslim?, ______.

blm

(113,061 posts)
9. No. Table IS set. He can choose whoever will be the most helpful at cleaning
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jul 2020

up and correcting the various messes in this country.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
10. It's hard not to worry. Pace yourself.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jul 2020

Every choice has an upside & a downside. If there's one thing I trust above all else, I trust Biden to have professional advisors and number crunchers and campaign management who are giving this question all of the thought it requires.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
13. can you imagine the campaign saying this?
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jul 2020

...that they're nervous about selecting a black woman because it will 'set the table for a whole new game?'

I hope this isn't their thinking. The idea is to expand our base of voters, and to do that, as Joe says, present voters with an 'transformational' choice in this election.

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
14. No.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jul 2020

I kind of don't understand your concern... we have a full slate of brilliant women under consideration.


brush

(53,778 posts)
16. You're in the absolutely wrong place to bring up something like that.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:09 PM
Jul 2020

What the fuck are you insinuating?

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
20. Check yourself and watch your language. I'm a black woman and I've been all in for a black woman
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jul 2020

VP, as I said my concern is that when the reality of not just a potential female president but a black female president sets in, some independents and even Dems will balk. Look wat happened to Hillary. FWIW I’ve posted numerous times that anything other than a black female would be viewed as a slap in the face by black voters who put Biden over the top. Not I’m second guessing that assessment.

brush

(53,778 posts)
25. Now you're second guessing that assessment. What does that mean?
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:02 PM
Jul 2020

Are you saying now you don't think he should choose a black woman VP?

And btw, I'm a black male and I don't think there's any question he should pick a black woman, what with the majority of the top choices being black women, to overlook all of them would be a serious mistake and could costs Biden votes as we are the ones who delivered the nomination to him.

No time for second guessing. You get what you fight for.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
30. Good point. I just want Trump gone so bad, They sometimes overthink it, but I don't expect much from
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jul 2020

The average American and am fearful that selection of a black woman would help Trump.

brush

(53,778 posts)
31. A black woman choice would help Biden. trump's racist base...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jul 2020

aren't going to vote blue anyway. We got never-trumper repugs working for us on the Lincoln Project, the white suburban blue wave from 2018 wants trump gone too, and many right-leaning independents are sick of him too.

We'll be all right. Harris, Abrams, Rice or Demings—all of them can run roughshod over Pence in the VP debate.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. I'm excited about his coming ratings. I s'pose we cancel each other out.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:58 PM
Jul 2020

I think the whole new game belongs to Biden... especially if he chooses a black woman.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
22. The folks that would be bothered by him picking a black woman as VP....
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jul 2020

....already don't plan on voting for him anyway.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
23. They'll get it right!
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jul 2020

It may energize some clearly anti-Democratic voters, but they weren't going to vote for Biden in the first place.

Admittedly, Biden has benefited from the fact that Trump's incompetence has been the only story in the news for months. He's been able to step back and let Trump shoot himself in the foot. Therefore, news of a VP selection will make scrutiny of the Biden ticket front and center, the inevitable narrowing of polls will happen, but it will be only temporary, and they'll make a home run decision anyway. One thing that made the Obama campaigns so successful is that they were focused less on winning any particular news cycle in favor of winning the overall narrative.



 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
24. Toughen up!
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jul 2020

The media and pukes will spin negatives no matter who he names.

It is what they do.

The proper response, "Is she better than Putin's bitch who turned over an American base, allowed bounties to be placed on American soldiers, allowed Russians to interfere in our elections, divides the entire Country daily while catering to his shrinking base, completely mishandled the COVID crises?????? If you don't think she is then you for sure are a fucking idiot and likely a fucking racist."

27. In my view the best choice would be a black woman who ...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jul 2020

is a good experienced campaigner. She also needs to be a "safe" choice who doesn't have any major potential controversies in her background, and who can avoid creating distractions and controversies during the campaign.

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