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DEMANDING to speak to the manager of the Supreme Court (Original Post) CatWoman Jul 2020 OP
Creepy and then some. Nt BittyJenkins Jul 2020 #1
maybe Trump will sue them? dem4decades Jul 2020 #2
Stand by... you're about to be attacked. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #3
FUCK EM CatWoman Jul 2020 #4
Just want to let you know, I'm with you. Yeah, FUCK EM! scarletwoman Jul 2020 #25
Hear Hear, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2020 #56
Funny! MaryMagdaline Jul 2020 #5
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 irisblue Jul 2020 #6
lol J_William_Ryan Jul 2020 #7
I don't know if I need eye bleach or electric shock treatments. Dem2theMax Jul 2020 #8
LOL! lunatica Jul 2020 #41
PINO, With Dianne Keaton's Hair ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #9
Tell me, again, how the "Karen" meme is not misogynistic? Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #10
Cool story CatWoman Jul 2020 #12
Some people traded in their sense of humor for the magic woke beans they bought ... StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #17
Nicely put! scarletwoman Jul 2020 #27
Perfect. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #61
It denigrates Trump ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #22
By using being a woman as an insult. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #26
You're assuming it is a woman simply from the haircut. How dare you. tinrobot Jul 2020 #32
So - give me a expanation that passes the laugh test Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #54
Is there nothing funny if it comes to women? lunatica Jul 2020 #44
When you portray someone as a woman as an insult, no. That's misogyny. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #48
It is an insult because it reminds everyone of only one kind of woman lunatica Jul 2020 #50
But it IS about portraying a man as a woman as an insult Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #57
I didn't say it was gender irrelevant lunatica Jul 2020 #64
It does not need to be an insult to all women Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #66
That shot through my mind as soon as I saw this. Chemisse Jul 2020 #55
"can easily be a male equivalent" doesn't fly - when our immediate inclination Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #59
I just knew this was coming. trof Jul 2020 #60
Be careful ma'am...the President may try to grab your pussy...just fair warning. Moostache Jul 2020 #11
Misogynistic. 33taw Jul 2020 #13
that's not my hangup CatWoman Jul 2020 #14
Not really a hang up. But I get sick of people saying Pelosi has balls when she stands up to Trump 33taw Jul 2020 #67
Better or worse than "acts like and (sic) animal"? LanternWaste Jul 2020 #39
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Jul 2020 #15
But whatever you do, don't say {Karen}! StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #16
do you know how many times I've been victimized by a fucking Karen CatWoman Jul 2020 #19
Now you did it. You went and said {Karen} StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #21
You and CatWoman are rockin' this thread, if I may say so... ms liberty Jul 2020 #23
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #31
of course they did CatWoman Jul 2020 #33
It's ridiculous. PTWB Jul 2020 #34
19? grantcart Jul 2020 #37
smartass CatWoman Jul 2020 #42
Well I was originally going to say 334 or 335 but then rereading it grantcart Jul 2020 #51
where did you get the "sex" angle? CatWoman Jul 2020 #52
"Do you know how many. . by a FUCKING Karen" indicating that grantcart Jul 2020 #62
AH CatWoman Jul 2020 #65
..... Blue_true Jul 2020 #18
I can't unsee it. Music Man Jul 2020 #20
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 mountain grammy Jul 2020 #24
Weirdly, Trump looks better as a woman Codeine Jul 2020 #28
I agree!! Much better than his usual "manly" appearance... liberalla Jul 2020 #53
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #63
OHHH Ivanka isn't gonna age well demtenjeep Jul 2020 #29
Have you seen her mother Scarsdale Jul 2020 #38
This is so funny, but creepy as hell, too! K&R ms liberty Jul 2020 #30
Karen Trump? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #35
He makes me sick to my stomach!!! marieo1 Jul 2020 #36
Rosanne Barr? RhodeIslandOne Jul 2020 #40
Hahaha Sunsky Jul 2020 #43
He'd probably grope himself.nt Javaman Jul 2020 #45
Depending on local regulations, states, counties, cities can fine or PULL business licenses.... louzke9 Jul 2020 #46
Sorta looks like Greta Van Sustern dmr Jul 2020 #47
Karen Barron, is that you? not fooled Jul 2020 #49
They cleaned up his baggy 2nd chin. Duppers Jul 2020 #58
Melonia Blue Owl Jul 2020 #68
Can he grab himself by the p***y? Miigwech Jul 2020 #69
Roseanne Barr? First impression packman Jul 2020 #70

Dem2theMax

(9,651 posts)
8. I don't know if I need eye bleach or electric shock treatments.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jul 2020

I need to get that out of my eyes and my mind!

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
9. PINO, With Dianne Keaton's Hair
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:32 PM
Jul 2020

At least the way she wore it in the 90s.
My wife & I have been long time big fans.
She was the first one I thought of when I saw that haircut.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
10. Tell me, again, how the "Karen" meme is not misogynistic?
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jul 2020

Portraying Trump as a woman demanding to speak to the manager of the Supreme Court sure looks to me like the meme is a denigration tied expressly to gender.

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
12. Cool story
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jul 2020

I just think it's funny as hell.

Period.

I didn't/don't bother to look at the "story" behind the story.

To me, it's funny as hell.

tinrobot

(10,900 posts)
32. You're assuming it is a woman simply from the haircut. How dare you.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jul 2020


Besides, it's really close to his actual cut.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
54. So - give me a expanation that passes the laugh test
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jul 2020

to assume that giving Trump long hair hair (that another poster identified as "Diane Keaton" hair), and using the catch phrase associated with calling someone a "Karen" is NOT portraying him as a woman.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
44. Is there nothing funny if it comes to women?
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jul 2020

I think it’s funny because he looks even less attractive as a woman. Not because women are all unattractive. When people laugh at this they are laughing at him. Not at women.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
48. When you portray someone as a woman as an insult, no. That's misogyny.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jul 2020

Which is my main point - the image in the OP proves the point that the "Karen" meme is, at its core, misogynistic in a way that merely calling women "Karens" never could. It is literally being used as a gender-based insult.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
50. It is an insult because it reminds everyone of only one kind of woman
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jul 2020

For lack of a better word, the moniker ‘karen’ connotes exactly what kind of woman. This is not about all women. If it were then you have a point. I won’t argue with you about using ‘bitch’ as an insult because that is too general. I simply don’t agree in this case.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
57. But it IS about portraying a man as a woman as an insult
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jul 2020

even if it is only one kind of woman.

If gender was irrelevant, he would not have been portrayed as a woman - the comment would have been sufficient to identify him as that kind of person.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
64. I didn't say it was gender irrelevant
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:18 PM
Jul 2020

Because the insult is about a SPECIFIC kind of WOMAN.

If it were a man who acts like a ‘karen’ the picture would be of a man. A ‘karen’ is not all women. It is only one type of behavior of specific women. ‘Karens’ are gender specific. But women in general are not ‘karens’.

This is NOT an insult to all women.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
66. It does not need to be an insult to all women
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jul 2020

to be misogynistic - in the same way that gender discrimination in the workplace does not have to be directed at ALL women in the workplace to be discriminatory.

When you use an insult that relies on being female to be an insult - especially when you are using it to insult someone who is not female by suggesting they are - it is by definition misogynistic - even if it only specifically insults a subset of women.

I'm sure you've heard phrases such as - you're a good Black, or (directed to Asians) - you're the good minority, or to LGBT individuals - it's just the flaming queens (or trans individuals) who are unacceptable. Gender (or race, or sexual orientation)- based insults are no less offensive when they are directed at a sub-group of the class.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
55. That shot through my mind as soon as I saw this.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:57 PM
Jul 2020

Why did he have to be turned into a female to make this funny?

I've enjoyed the Karen meme a lot, so this was quite a jolt.

But where do we draw the line and say something is sexist? Is it okay because it is not women in general but just a certain 'type' of woman? She also has to be white, racist-but-doesn't-think-she-is, self-absorbed and oblivious.

Is there a male counterpart? I think there is, but he is not very fun to joke about. He is all the things she is but it comes out as gun-toting and cruel rather than loud and petulant. Or maybe I've jumped too far. Maybe "Ken" is a middle-management type and impotent in his anger, along with all the things Karen is.

Actually, the couple on the lawn with guns toward protesters a few weeks back are pretty much the Ken and Karen couple. So I'm going to say no, I don't think it's necessarily sexist since there can easily be a male equivalent.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
59. "can easily be a male equivalent" doesn't fly - when our immediate inclination
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 08:00 PM
Jul 2020

is that to call up the meme, we portray Trump as a woman.

trof

(54,256 posts)
60. I just knew this was coming.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jul 2020

It's not about 'women'.
It's about the 'Karens'.
The jerks who happen to be women.

I guess there's also a name for the male jerks.
Jerk.
Or maybe asshole.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
11. Be careful ma'am...the President may try to grab your pussy...just fair warning.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jul 2020

Now I am back to trying not to throw up in my mouth after that experience...

33taw

(2,442 posts)
67. Not really a hang up. But I get sick of people saying Pelosi has balls when she stands up to Trump
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jul 2020

and portray Trump as a woman when he whines.

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
19. do you know how many times I've been victimized by a fucking Karen
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

in both professional and private life?

Yet, I was able to walk away and maintain my sense of humor.

I'll be damned to hell before I let a chorus of finger wagging holier-than-thous take that away from me.

Response to CatWoman (Reply #19)

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
34. It's ridiculous.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jul 2020

Some folks are more offended that racist abusers of white privilege are getting called out, than they are offended by such abuses in the first place.

It really makes one wonder.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
51. Well I was originally going to say 334 or 335 but then rereading it
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jul 2020

and realizing that you were only talking about the smaller subset of Karen's who were victimizing you in both professional and private while engaged in sexual Congress I reduced it down quite a bit.

I am still curious what professional situations you encounter Karen's being Karen while having sex?


grantcart

(53,061 posts)
62. "Do you know how many. . by a FUCKING Karen" indicating that
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jul 2020

These Karen's were harassing while in sexual Congress and not while some other activity like the equally irritating but less interesting bowling Karen's, the completely incongruous lactating Karens, or the terrifying clowning Karen's.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. .....
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jul 2020

She looks pissed. Wonder what happened, the hamberder was undercooked? The chocolate cake was not beautiful? The 2 scoops of ice cream were melting?

liberalla

(9,247 posts)
53. I agree!! Much better than his usual "manly" appearance...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:41 PM
Jul 2020

this is an improvement, IMO. He doesn't look as sleazy and slimey as usual...
so !


ms liberty

(8,574 posts)
30. This is so funny, but creepy as hell, too! K&R
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jul 2020

You and Starfish Saver cracked me up in this thread. What makes the Karen meme so funny is because it's true to life. I'm old enough to have known and/or been traumatized by that kind of woman myself and I even have a cousin named Karen who's a Karen.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
36. He makes me sick to my stomach!!!
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jul 2020

Yuk!!! Makes me want to throw-up!! He is a disgusting piece of humanity!! I want to know, how come he flaunts breaking the suggestions of health officials all over, which gives imbeciles the freedom to also break the suggestions, and yet he doesn't get it. I want to know why!! Someone in their right mind should take away all of his powers that are damaging our country!! This is my suggestion!!

louzke9

(296 posts)
46. Depending on local regulations, states, counties, cities can fine or PULL business licenses....
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 07:29 PM
Jul 2020

for those businesses who do not follow health guidelines.

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