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clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:03 PM Jul 2020

Trump is blaming Fauci now, says he 'made a lot of mistakes'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/10/covid-19-coronavirus-new-mexico-parks-nevada-bars-starbucks-masks/5411146002/



Fauci told the Financial Times he was "sure" his messages were sent to the president even though the two have not been in close contact in the past several weeks.

The comments from the Trump administration's director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases came as Trump has been critical of Fauci and spoken openly about issues on which they disagree.

In a Thursday interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, Trump said Fauci had "made a lot of mistakes" but called him a "nice man." Trump also said "most cases" of coronavirus would "automatically cure. They automatically get better."

Fauci also in the FT interview said Trump was incorrect in claiming 99% of coronavirus cases were "harmless" and may have conflated some statistics.

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HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
3. Fauci did downplay the severity of the virus and it's risk the the US initially.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jul 2020

But as with all good scientists, when presented with more information quickly understood what was happening and spoke and acted in accordance with the new information.

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
6. I agree that he made a lot of mistakes -
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jul 2020

but they are pretty much the opposite of the mistakes Trump is suggesting.

He lent his reputation in support of bad Trump policies by largely remaining silent or, at best, when Trump lied or promoted unsafe practices using weasel words to avoid contradicting him. That provided some credence to early missteps (don't wear masks), and now continues to allow people to point to misleading early statements by the government that Fauci knew (or should have known at the time) were false. Those statements are now pointed to as standing for the proposition that the the health experts in the government will say anything to achieve the desired political goal - so we can't trust what they say to be fact-based now.

I get the motivation: Better to be inside in the hopes of influencing decisions than on the outside. But given the political climate we're in, when people truly believe facts are just another form of opinion, it was irresponsible. It will take at least a decade to recover from these well-intended, but ill-advised, attempts to avoid being fired.

TheFarseer

(9,319 posts)
7. I think experts
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020

not sure if it was Fauci specifically, did us a great disservice by initially telling us don’t wear masks - Leave that for health professionals. They should have been unambiguous in their advocation of masks.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
12. Fauci and the CDC initially said not to wear masks because they were afraid the public would buy all
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jul 2020

..........of them and we had such a shortage on PPE they wanted medical people to have them.

So it wasn't a health recommendation as much as it was a supply and demand recommendation.

Of course Donny Dumbfuck doesn't know or care why the guidance changed.

Or that we are still short of PPE.

Or that 135,000 have died.



TheFarseer

(9,319 posts)
13. Why didn't they tell us that
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:58 PM
Jul 2020

And recommend people make cloth masks like lots of people ended up doing? Maybe people would have bought them up anyway like toilet paper but that would be better than having that misinformation out there. I remember them saying stuff like masks are counterproductive because it makes you touch your face more and some other reasons. It gave cover to people that want to say “they don’t know what they’re talking about. I’m going to do what I want”

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
8. I won't evey forgive Fauci for fucking up the mask messaging.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jul 2020

He wasn't alone. The WHO screwed that up, too.

Boomerproud

(7,951 posts)
10. It's passed time that Dr. Fauci stops smiling and
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

taking 45s crap. Get a spine. My empathy pool is near empty.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
14. I knew it would happen
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jul 2020

sooner or later, it's what trump does. There will be a lot more blamed before this is over!

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
15. If Fauci get fired by Donald Dumbass, I hope he instantly is on the News nonstop going into...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:32 PM
Jul 2020

Detail exactly how tRUMP is continuing to fail miserably and exactly how he screwed the country.

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