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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFirst time in 60 years I felt true hatred last night,
We have moved to a camper life with our hcp daughter. who is well established in my posts here. Im gonna do long story short.
When we scoped out this campground and loved it. we had some extra time on our weekend trip, so I went to the local golf country club and inquired about fees and such. And that My lil girl would be riding with me from time to time. All good,,contact us when you get here. uhmmm so I did,,
When we moved I went in and paid initiation fee and all,,couple guys in clubhouse,I said Im new,,I'll but your next round,,they took. Then things changed, one guy asked me about my family,so I told him,, his response,, So you have a retard? I told him we dont use that word and I would appreciate if he wouldnt say it again. So he said, "then you are a retard too" So I immediately asked for a refund,,not given.
A month later,,many emails re my refund I decide to call the CC last eve. Oh My,, gal on phone (who was one who took my fee) called me a motherfucker, said I was rude to the guy in clubhouse and why would I even bring a ret**** to this town?
I didnt sleep last night, I never felt hatred like this. MrsK a bit more composed than me, contacted someone who will go to the board of directors at Country Club. I told her ok,,Im selling my golf clubs, I do not want to be around this kind of hate..
I'll sign with a bit of a joke,because Mrs K settled me down
Have a great day from a ret***d Dad and his Re***** Daughter.
Thanks for listening
Koz
Sanity Claws
(21,839 posts)I hope you find a way to get away from these ugly people.
coti
(4,612 posts)on these fine people.
kozar
(2,082 posts)but as Tess Brother,,the lawyer told me,,dont do it,,not right now.. I wanna blow them outta the water,,,my legal advice,,( my son) says slow down Dad
relayerbob
(6,536 posts)Drive them out of town and into bankruptcy
gopiscrap
(23,725 posts)csziggy
(34,131 posts)From their page:
The ADA protects people with mental disabilities, including people with mental illnesses. The ADA protects people who have a current mental impairment or who are discriminated against because they have a history of such impairment or are regarded as having such an impairment.
The ADA attacks discrimination in three ways. First, it prohibits governments and business from treating people differently simply because they have a disability. Second, it requires governments and businesses to make changes to how they operate (reasonable accommodations) so that people with disabilities get the same access and the same benefits as other people. Third, the ADA requires that state and local governments deliver services, including mental health services, in the most integrated setting, that is, a setting that maximizes independence and participation in community life.
The ADAs vision of independence and community integration informs all of the Bazelon Centers work. We collaborate with the federal government and other advocates to ensure that government and businesses comply with the ADA, and we bring or assist in lawsuits that will advance compliance with the ADA.
http://www.bazelon.org/our-work/mental-health-systems/ada/
More about them:
We employ cutting-edge litigation to effect progressive systemic change and impact public policy. We secured early legal precedents creating basic civil rights for people with mental disabilitiesincluding the rights to a public education, receive services in community-based settings instead of institutions, and make decisions about ones own care. The Center was instrumental in the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) (1990) and played a key role in the historic case of Olmstead v. L.C. (1999), in which the Supreme Court found that needless segregation of people with psychiatric disabilities violates the ADA. Over the last decade, we have worked to expand the reach of Olmstead to address not only unnecessary institutionalization in public facilities (psychiatric and criminal justice), but also to remedy segregation in nursing homes, board and care homes, schools and classrooms, sheltered workshops, and other day services. Our Olmstead settlement agreements have provided thousands of individuals with opportunities to move out of segregated, dead-end facilities and to live full lives in their communities. We have set legal precedents defining a national model of comprehensive community-based disability systems.
http://www.bazelon.org/about/who-we-are/
What this club did is illegal under the ADA and they should have their asses kicked hard for it.
I don't blame you for being boiling mad - I would be, too. They need a very strong attitude adjustment and hitting them in the wallet would be a very good start.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)way? This country is going to hell in a handbasket if we don't vote BLUE in November. It seems like all the HATERS
have decided they can do and say what they want.....
calimary
(81,091 posts)or have allowed themselves to become.
I think it's the trump effect. He made it okay to be "out 'n' proud" with your prejudices and insults and bad ideas and idiot positions and wrong ideas. He's made it okay for the total bastardization of the right to free speech - which now allows any proud, defiant, in-yer-face know-nothing an equal seat at the table with science, truth, and objective provable FACTS.
I guess I don't feel like that much of a free-speech advocate anymore. I think that mindset should be muzzled. I think damaging and false information should NOT be allowed to be aired in public. I don't think it deserves a seat at the table. I think it should be openly decried and denounced and NOT given a microphone or a venue to spout shit. And I'm not sure how that would be accomplished in this country, now. But now we've got separate "world-views" competing for air and light and attention. And they're all given the same level of "legitimacy." Hell, we've got Qanon nuts now running for office, and earning their party's (mainly republi-CON) nomination! There's such a freakazoid here in Oregon running for the US Senate right now, for Pete's sake! Such an individual shouldn't be found anywhere outside a padded cell. And, of course, there's the donald as well...
I'm not sure if we're ever going to be able to climb back up out of this.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)You have love in you and in your life.
They need to hate so much-- want to hate so much-- it will destroy their lives.
You'll be happy and loved, and they will die alone and probably pretty soon.
What a great idea, to move to the camper life. It sounds wonderful to have the freedom to move around with daughter and mrs.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Sue the shit out of the CC, and take your story to the local TV news.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)Had 13 homes under my mgmnt,,3 people per home and staff. 24/7 I was on call always,, I appreciate your efforts to help these people.
Koz
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)One young man wit learning disabilities was hired. He collected the shopping carts from the parking lot, and took them back into the store. He was busy, constantly. One day, he was sick and had to miss a day. Two "normal" employees were joking about him, so my daughter said to them "He may have problems, but it will take BOTH of you to replace him. He works hard, never stops" I loathe people who mock handicapped people. Who do they think they are? Superior beings? All these disgusting people at the CC need to be exposed for what they are.
kozar
(2,082 posts)amywalk
(254 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)lil Bit's brother,guessing he has a "vested interest" in this as I never heard him talk to me like he did last night,,he told me,,"you post no specifics, you keep your mouth shut. I m gonna do this." welp..its his sister,, wink wink
Koz
Cha
(296,780 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,917 posts)There is a special corner in HELL for people like that - and it's extra large as they had planned ahead for this time in the history of our country.
I'm SO sorry that you were subjected to such ignorance.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)My heart goes out to you and family.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,237 posts)She had a significant physical disability. He responded with a stupid ass, trump like response - cold (pro-life my ass). My dad is deceased now - such a shame that his trump cultism interfered with his status in the family. He was a WW2 vet, but became increasingly estranged from his large family.
Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)I worked 18 years with developmentally disabled adults. I saw so many horrible examples of people being bigots. But what I choose to remember is the team of wonderful people that I worked with , trying to make each of their days a little bit better
cate94
(2,807 posts)No one should be treated in that manner. Ive had people sneer at me, and call me names because of my orientation. Its been going on most of my life. I think it would be so much harder if the name calling was towards one of the people I love. Its easier to grow a thick skin when its you they are attacking, you know?
Your special needs child is lucky to have a father like you. Im sure not all the people at the club are not assholes. If they wont refund your money, go anyway. If they use the term retarded again, remind them their language is that of an 8 year old, apparently thats when they stopped maturing.
for you and for your family.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)Heartless people at that club!
You and your daughter need to avoid them for your emotional well-being.
Reader Rabbit
(2,624 posts)Name and shame can be pretty powerful.
kozar
(2,082 posts)The CC doesnt know that lil bit (my daughter) brother is a city attorney and after I talked to him last night, I think,but am not sure,, that he is more pissed than me.. Gonna let him run with it
Koz
malaise
(268,672 posts)Good effin' grief!
BSdetect
(8,994 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,545 posts)Your daughter is covered under the ADA, and the managers comments are pretty clearly discriminatory.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)Goodheart
(5,308 posts)aggiesal
(8,907 posts)get ahead!
I usually say "I don't get mad, I don't get even, I get ahead!"
yardwork
(61,536 posts)Half the country is consumed with resentments and anger. They're mostly unreachable at this point. They need to turn off hate radio and Fox News and reprogram themselves.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)I wish there was some way to retaliate but I doubt there is. I am so sorry for you and your daughter.
kozar
(2,082 posts)And Im just an old tough white guy,who is balling my eyes out right now at this support,,ty
Koz
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)and Business,this crap will continue. What they hate more than anything is exposure.
llmart
(15,532 posts)Just like the cockroaches that they are.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)bigots is,the Campground Review that one leaves on the Internet. We no longer have our R/V but,we have pulled up stakes and left a national R/V campground because of piss poor treatment of a Guest . Oh btw,yes we made sure our Credit Card payment was reversed just for shits and giggles.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Those are also very good options.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)killer for the bad actors. Just because their Ad's are all glossy and the narrative is wonderful,does not mean they are what they are. One pulled a R/V for maybe forty years,came across some really ugly set ups. As well as really ugly operators.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Maybe I misunderstood.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)assumed they were using a Camp Ground with a Golf Course . Usually they run high end .
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I've done a lot of camping, and I don't think I've stayed at one of those!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Patterson
(1,527 posts)(You probably couldn't have hit him with a 1-iron.)
kozar
(2,082 posts)and neither can I,,or even a 2 iron,,I do 4 iron at most,,,
Koz
Patterson
(1,527 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)M2 woods and all today,,I have no desire to golf anymore,,,
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)Maybe you should make that part of the lawsuit.I
Also, if you talk to local news and newspaper make sure you tell them how this incident soured you on your life-long enjoyment of golf.
Love and peace to you, your daughter and the rest of the family!
barbtries
(28,756 posts)for the lawsuit. bastards robbed you of a pastime you enjoyed, maybe you even used to love it and they ruined it for you.
hibbing
(10,094 posts)It is so offensive. I had two mentally and physically challenged brothers and my mother was a special education teacher, so needless to say I hate that word.
Peace to you.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)in DEEP shit with me. Believe me, Ive heard it, but never more than once out of the same students mouth!
NellieStarbuck
(265 posts)has had to endure this. It's been proven again and again that money does not buy class, smarts, dignity or goodness.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Don't use a computer write it by hand.
Send it registered to their home or business address.
Don't care how right wing they are I cannot believe that the Board Members would agree.
If they are leasing public land call the city/county
Don't sell your clubs. Don't let them make you change your life.
kozar
(2,082 posts)Mrs K doesnt like the decision,, but I can rent clubs cheaply enough if the feeling hits.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Your experience offends me too. Get the hell away from those cootie laden asses, and thank the stars that you found out what utter slime they are right at the beginning.
Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!
rurallib
(62,373 posts)If I didn't see this happening with my own eyes, I would never believe it.
Amazed you didn't cold cock the guy.
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)Get a good lawyer so you don't have to deal with these individuals personally. The whole bunch are probably rotten so don't waste your energy. And, report them to the local police while you are at it, for stealing your money and hate crimes.. Makes my blood boil but you must always remember that we out-number the haters. So sorry that this had to happen to you and yours.
kozar
(2,082 posts)he told me last night to slow down and do nothing,,he will work on it. police know,,and were friendly. My hardest part is to listen to son and keep my mouth shut. Im livid...
Koz
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)Alpeduez21
(1,749 posts)It is perfectly understandable. When someone who charges $500/hr is telling you that stuff for free you need to listen. No contact, period. Stay off the property. All the usual stuff.
You are a wonderful human being. Far better than me. At the very least your restraint is a shining example to people like me.
Thank you.
Aristus
(66,275 posts)Country clubs are the vacation hot-spots for the dregs of wealthy humanity. I'm sorry you and your daughter were treated so awfully...
ismnotwasm
(41,960 posts)Piece of shit assholes.
kozar
(2,082 posts)not only my lawyer,,but dammit ,,my son,,,, I guess I need to listen to him now..
I have a grandson with severe autism and this infuriates me as well.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)around the country we had such experiences. When hubby retired from the military, we settled in the Seattle area where my daughter had been treated so wonderfully. From the kids in the neighborhood to the teachers. Now she looks out the front window almost all day long and people walking by wave at her to make her smile. I love this area and these people.
we are Seahawk fans,,they flew daughter and us out to Seattle for the Monday night game 3 years ago,, Lil bit played catch on field with Russ and Tyler,,they paid our hotel,plane and all,,except food,,I dropped about 500 on food,,God I miss fresh Seafood!
Koz
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)been accosted with pointed fingers etc like in other states.
kozar
(2,082 posts)we would be there in a heart beat,,,just this lil thing of season tickets to Hawks,,the music scene we love,,the food.. etcetc... its just all the extras Seattle offers!!
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)JudyM
(29,187 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,694 posts)They are not. They are despicable and H was too kind to call them "deplorables." I also have a special needs kiddo, and I'm afraid what I would do to a-holes like that. We need laws and enforcement on "hate speech." That is what they did. You have my sympathies.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)dalton99a
(81,391 posts)MLAA
(17,238 posts)I am so sorry you had to deal with such fucking ignorance.
Edited to add:
Sorry, didnt see your earlier answer to hold back info for now. I hope you can nail the bastards!
kozar
(2,082 posts)hope son doesnt blast me,,,Fla
SHOCKED that something like this happened in Florida.
Deep breaths. Breathe it out. It's going to be fine. The moral arc of the universe swings towards justice. You are a good man, good husband, and good father. I know you are beyond angry, and have every right to be. But listen to your son, bide your time, and wait for the right moment.
MLAA
(17,238 posts)I want them out of business, I know thats a lot to hope for but the only thing such ignoramuses understand is their wallet.
irisblue
(32,917 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)you have been here all along,,feel how hard I hug you back
leftieNanner
(15,058 posts)Make America Cruel Again.
I am so sorry you had to go through this. Glad you could come over here to DU and vent your story.
Blessings to your family.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)Seriously.
kozar
(2,082 posts)How can you not love this lil girl
rateyes
(17,438 posts)Vinca
(50,236 posts)It's hard to imagine some people are as mean and nasty as they are.
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)You are a very blessed man.
Those people will never hurt your love.
My prayers that they pay for their wrong deeds.
Penn Voter
(247 posts)Metatron
(1,258 posts)You sound like a wonderful family!
peacebuzzard
(5,146 posts)I am so sorry that you had to go through that wickedness.
That was a nasty cult you ran into at the CC.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)Shame on them.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)That was more than I could take.
-Laelth
kimbutgar
(21,040 posts)I would have gone to a local legal aid to see if You could sue them for the refund. And to call your daughter that word is despicable. You dont need to belong to that club.
I have a son whos a autistic and we have experienced from time to time incidents of people being cruel. He lives in a group home and the people next door to it made a comment one time they were made a bunch of r living next door. Well everytime they have loud parties the group home people call the police and they no longer make those comments.
Dem2theMax
(9,637 posts)Every single human being should be treated with love, respect and compassion. Period.
There is no place in this world for the kind of hate that was directed towards you and your daughter.
Unfortunately, Trump's behavior makes his followers think it's okay to act like this.
Please know there are more good people in this world than the ones you had to deal with at the golf course.
I know I can speak for everyone on DU when I say we are all here for you.
Champp
(2,114 posts)There have always been assholes, but fortunately there have always been more decent folk.
Thank you for being a loving dad. The world needs 8 billion more of you.
kozar
(2,082 posts)until son tells me I can go public.. your responses are awesome. I truly do feel the love that I needed, This world sucks because of Him.
Doing what I can do,,I want to respond and attack,,lawyer son telling me to shut up (hard for a Dad to hear) so ill play the legal game,this lil girl
Koz
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:11 PM - Edit history (1)
barbtries
(28,756 posts)Consider suing them, I think you'd win.
motherfuckers.
kozar
(2,082 posts)havent lost my sense of humor.
barbtries
(28,756 posts)the reality is they are the R word people. emotionally and empathetically damaged people.Grown ups do not do what they did to you and to your daughter. i'd rather be you, believe me.
maxsolomon
(33,232 posts)And Liberals are the Snowflakes...
relayerbob
(6,536 posts)These aren't people. This "country club" isn't a country club, it's a fucking landfill. Fuck them
packman
(16,296 posts)I'd go back with my cell phone on record in my pocket and have another "discussion" with those pricks. Then send the recording to any local news station or post it.
Suggest doing the audio only, if they see a cell phone and believe they are being recorded , they will act and speak differently.
Go get them-assholes like that don't deserve to be around the public
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,812 posts)keep on this kind of thing.
You really need to contact local media.
kozar
(2,082 posts)the lawyer tells me I can... that lil bits bro,,he is prolly more pissed than me,, but he has got sisters back.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,812 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)Courts strongly favor adjudication of disputes IN COURT as opposed to in the court of public opinion. Its harder for the Court to act impartially if theres strong public opinion about a given case. Its also harder to find an impartial jury if the supposed facts of the case are widely known.
-Laelth
MontanaMama
(23,294 posts)Thank you for advocating for her and for what is right. I'm sorry we have people on the planet who are so full of hate that it overflows on to good people like you and your family. Hugs to all of you.
LuckyCharms
(17,410 posts)Also, I'm sorry this happened to you and your family. I would be livid, and you are right to be angry and upset.
Post what happened on all social media that you may be a member of.
If they have a yelp or Google review page, do the same.
These are just my suggestions. I would ensure their business was ruined if they did this to my family, but you sound like a better man than me, so just follow your heart on how to handle this.
kozar
(2,082 posts)her brother is a city attorney and told me,,in REALLY NO UNCERTAIN TERMS,, Shut up Dad! post no specifics call no one but our family!,
Guess I need to not divulge anymore...
kozar
(2,082 posts)I always wanted to say this to you,, lets just light one up! I've read your posts forever.
Koz
LuckyCharms
(17,410 posts)c-rational
(2,587 posts)advice I can give is simply to look at her and see love. Plus all the other good recommendations on just retribution given here.
Catherine Vincent
(34,486 posts)I am so sorry this happened to you. I can't believe grown folks would use such a word...and if they didn't know that wasn't acceptable, someone in their inner circle should have corrected them on it. Unbelievable!
Maraya1969
(22,459 posts)made fun of that journalist who had a movement disorder and everyone laughed? What a sad way to live your life.
I hope you find another place where people are kind and decent.
CountMyVote4Reality
(209 posts)Im so sorry you had to endure that trash in your community.
cayugafalls
(5,639 posts)You do you, keep us up to date on the outcome and I hope your lawyer makes them suffer.
If not, feel free to let social media take the case...
appleannie1
(5,060 posts)He has gone camping with us. I take him bowling. My other son is in LeMans type racing. Michael not only loves to attend the races, different teams have allowed him to sit in the cars. We have taken him to 5 star restaurants. We made arrangements last December for him to fly to visit his sister for Christmas, all on his own. The airlines were awesome and he got VIP treatment. Apparently that golf club has a lot of uneducated fools running it. If I were you, I would find another campground in another town where your whole family is welcome.
Rhiannon12866
(204,695 posts)I spent a school year working with disabled kids, a young class ages 2-6, most of them were 4. I loved them dearly and think of them often since this was back in the late '70s and I wonder about how they're doing now. I still remember all their names and I can't believe anyone would have made fun of them even back then. Someone must be chopping onions nearby...
proud patriot
(100,704 posts)Horrible
Stuart G
(38,410 posts)dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)My god. I am so, so, so sorry you had the misfortune of having to deal with assholes like this.
I'm glad you are seeking some legal recourse on this situation. I also agree that, if not now, (because it might jeopardize your case), at some point you should take this to the local media. Shine a very public light on their ignorance and hatred. These people are like cockroaches - they scurry back into the shadows when exposed to light.
Best wishes to you & your family.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)SKKY
(11,792 posts)...experienced this level of vitriol by anyone. Having said that, I'm very thankful because if someone were to ever ask me, "So you have a retard?", or if I saw someone talking like that about someone else, I genuinely don't know how I would handle it but I assure you it would not end well for my fist and their face. That you maintained your cool is commendable, because I would have hit that punk with so many lefts, he'd beg me for a right. And I know that is not the right reaction. I recognize that. But, it's what would happen. I'm sorry you had to deal with this asshole Koz, but I'm also glad I didn't because I can't imagine a scenario that doesn't have me calling you to come get me out of jail.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)beyond belief. Are you sure you didnt time travel back to the 1950s?
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,636 posts)the ignorance and insecurity must be so overwhelming in such people
Nululu
(840 posts)Having jerks like that catered to means others will not go.
You can bet they've lost lots of business with people that rude.
seta1950
(932 posts)What a bunch of low lifes
gopiscrap
(23,725 posts)I would be so pissed. You should tell us where this happened and maybe we could socially shame the place
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Full description. Name of the country club and people involved. Otherwise all these racists and Karens would be thriving.
Golf is a great sport with not the best demographic, to put it mildly. I have mentioned this on golf forums in recent years when discussing declining participation. Besides time expenditure and difficulties of playing the sport competently, why would young people want to get involved given the type of person they'd often encounter?
I've had plenty of blowback because the Trumpers think the company and conversation is marvelous. Their kids will grow up with golf and be thinking and saying all the same things.
gordianot
(15,232 posts)Stop look around just do it. This is very consistent with what I have seen from golfers and especially country club snobs.
CaptainTruth
(6,573 posts)Their actions are a reflection of what terrible people THEY are, not you, not your daughter, or anyone else. It all reflects on them.
NBachers
(17,080 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)not ignoring,,catching up now,,ty all for support!
Botany
(70,442 posts)Give 'em some pub.
spanone
(135,781 posts)I hate what he's done to this country....may he rot in the hottest hollows of hell
BadGimp
(4,012 posts)but ah, in this case, I'm gonna make an exception.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,082 posts)I actually thing some Repubs want to kill off people. They don't care about immigrants or refugees dying. Money is about all they care for outside of themselves.
I had a few exchanges with a schedule at a doctor's office. She was very rude the three times we spoke.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)So sorry for what has happened to you.
kozar
(2,082 posts)as alone as I felt last night,,is how much I feel loved with lil bit today,,My God,,THANK YOU ALL!
cab67
(2,990 posts)I'm unfamiliar with the acronym "HCP," except as "health care provider." Can someone enlighten me?
kozar
(2,082 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)I will be a bit off the edge,, and answer your questions semi fully. We are in Fla,,city starts with Chief,, my lawyer son gonna hate me,but you guys deserve the truth as I can within some limits.
Koz
redwitch
(14,940 posts)I would far rather be your daughter than those horrible people. Give her a hug from me!
llashram
(6,265 posts)trump has told clowns like this that civility is out and mean, self-centred hate, spite is in vogue. Does not surprise me the open hostility.
raccoon
(31,105 posts)kozar
(2,082 posts)and I and lil bit are Caucasian,, I cannot begin to think ,what our brothers and sisters of color are going through,,and I will never pretend to give the impression that I know. I'll just say,,,I got your back too!
Koz
SWBTATTReg
(22,059 posts)scumbags in this scenario.
Every family and every clic group has its share of valued family members and friends who are challenged in some manner and to be honest w/ you, I think that they bring so much to the table, with their outlook on life, and magnificent viewpoints on the small things in life that the rest of us overlook (you know how life is, busy busy busy).
When I was young, I was profoundly hard of hearing (and they didn't know it at first what was wrong), so I was in a special school until I was 9 years old (my Mom insisted to the doctors that it seemed to be a hearing problem but they ignored her). Not until did I have a incident on the swing set (I got pushed off, broke my shoulder as a result) did I finally get a hearing test (at 9 years old)!
Once I was fitted w/ a hearing aid, my world changed. I was one of the lucky ones in that they found something wrong w/ me that could be fixed or rectified so easily. I know that in most cases, things can't be rectified so easily, a lot of my fellow classmates I went to school w/ back then were in this category, but I never imagined them to 'retarded'...never imagined it or even knew what the word meant at first. I still think of my fellow classmates so long ago in that special school, and everyone of them still has a special place in my heart. To me, they were my friends, and I theirs. I never knew that anything was amiss (and it wasn't).
I too was called a 'retard' back then (until I was 9 years old), I didn't understand the word back then (and I am guessing your beautiful daughter doesn't know what word means either).
To all of those using such a hateful word and reveling in it should be ashamed of themselves. If I were their mother, I would box their ears. This is pathetic and shameful behavior. We were all raised to be better than this and there's no excuse for such behavior other than just being a d**khead.
To this day, I laugh and mock at anyone that ever uses this word in a hateful manner. It's pathetic on their part and also they really don't know the true meaning of the word. They and the CC are the retards in this scenario, and you and your daughter are the true heroes in this story to me, for standing up for your beliefs, for standing up for your daughter, and for up against such ignorant hate.
Peace to your daughter, your wife, and you
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)This may not be something for which they have oversight, but I would make damn sure this got some ugly publicity. This is so far beyond what is acceptable, and it is indicative of what that orange, ass wipe has encouraged in this country. And for the record, I am so far beyond appalled. I'm sorry you had to listen to this kind of BS.
drray23
(7,615 posts)I would probably have been charged with assault in this situation.
kozar
(2,082 posts)cant keep up with posts,cant respond to all posts. I took lil bit swimming today she had a ball, now Dad just needs to sleep,,Lucky Im Im Caucasian and no one will break down my door
You guys rock thank you
Koz
MyMission
(1,849 posts)And bad records of inclusion. Jews and blacks used to be banned from them, and other "undesirables" too. They want a certain type.
I can see how they might be appealing for socializing, and activities, but obviously they still want a certain type and draw people of a certain type.
Obviously not who I (or you) would want to socialize with! So they're not our kind of people either, the country club set.
I am so sorry you had to deal with such hate and ignorance, and would probably have had the same feelings of hatred, frustration and betrayal that you felt.
My brother is "slow" and one of the most remarkable people I know. He was called a retard in the 1960's, sent to a special school. When he wanted to attend the high school I had attended he needed a 9th grade reading level to enter. I worked with him and he got his reading level up, graduated from the same high school I did, and even went on to take classes at the community college (because I was in college). He's slow, not stupid. It may take him a bit longer but he learns. He drives, lives independently with a roommate. And has more kindness and compassion than most people I know.
And about golf: I often think golf courses should be turned into farms and gardens; and golfers should become farmers and gardeners and get their exercise while growing edible or beautiful, fragrant plants. Maybe you and your daughter can take up that hobby?!?
Karadeniz
(22,461 posts)Hateful, unacceptable...for some people, not us all. I think societal norms are related to the Bystander Effect which was described in a recent post.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)That shit bothers me a lot
Delphinus
(11,824 posts)I am so sorry to hear this. I hope you get your money back and get out of that place.
Trueblue Texan
(2,419 posts)I may have to give up my dancing community. But having decent friends is better than any activity I enjoy.
I am sorry people can be so hateful. I had a special needs sister whom I adored--people were often mean to her, too. Too bad hatefulness causes people to miss out on relationships with wonderful people in life. Their loss.
Dreampuff
(778 posts)What kind of people could say things like that to others? How ignorant and sad and you did the right thing by moving on.
futureliveshere
(1,412 posts)Your daughter is beautiful and you are doing the right thing by her and following your sons instructions. I pray you will be able to forgive the losers in the CC while continuing to teach them a sound lesson so they think a 100 times before doing something like this again.
Stay happy and safe.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)I'm mostly non-violent...but that guy should suffer.
Joinfortmill
(14,380 posts)Demovictory9
(32,419 posts)elleng
(130,714 posts)JI7
(89,239 posts)I'm not sure if there is a way to find out before if a particular one is a good one or the usual shitty ones though . And it's common for people to find out after paying and not get their money back.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Well, and a beer.
-Laelth
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)I will never join one. Ever.
H2O Man
(73,506 posts)I wish that I could come up with a meaningful response. But I can't. That guy is evil, and owns the problem. Your family does not own it. But it has to be so insulting.
EllieBC
(2,988 posts)My oldest has ASD, anxiety, SPD, and ADHD. When she was around 3-6 years old she was still learning to self regulate and had many meltdowns in public. I got many nasty looks and sometimes even a few comments.
I got so bitter I started fighting back. Once in a grocery store I heard an older woman say, who wants to hear THAT??. I turned around and told her no one wants to hear her old ass either so stfu.
People with disabilities, especially children, still arent protected enough.
JudyM
(29,187 posts)My dad used to say, Class will tell. In this case, couldnt be more true. What low lifes.
It is stunning that some people (generally repukes, It seems) have such a total lack of wisdom.
You are both supported by the good people in the world, like DUers!
Nitram
(22,755 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Those people are creeps and dont deserve your time, and it breaks my heart that assholes like them still exist.
Give that young lady a big hug from me and keep your head held high!
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)If anyone said that about my son, I'd do something that would get me arrested, but I know I'd feel better.
I can't wait until the Big Reveal. I hope it's somewhere near me in the southeast. (It's a shame lightning hasn't struck and burned their shithole down.)
kozar
(2,082 posts)This post happened on mid June,, it is now mid July and I will share,,,,, Tess isn't well she went from 85 pounds to 53 in these short weeks. While I love the support I have seen to this post,,, even her Dr in Tn who has taken care of her for life,, just told wife,,looks like it is the time. I wont post pics of lil bit at 40 pounds,, just look at her at 80 pounds and enjoy. I am kind of
in middle of all, I worked so long in handicapped field. Went to way too many funerals.
here's whats gonna happen DU .. lil bit gonna go on her way,, I didn't wait until that day,, which Docs say is coming.. but lil bit taught me,,Dad just do,,,,,, I will tell you all when ill 0bit gone,, my posts here are gone also,,,, I truly do not know who I will be a couple weeks from now,, or even a few days
I guess I get to say this,, Koz
is truly out,....... and with what I typed , Guess Im gone already Ill just go
Bye Friends bye Lil Bit