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kozar

(2,082 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:33 PM Jul 2020

First time in 60 years I felt true hatred last night,

We have moved to a camper life with our hcp daughter. who is well established in my posts here. Im gonna do long story short.

When we scoped out this campground and loved it. we had some extra time on our weekend trip, so I went to the local golf country club and inquired about fees and such. And that My lil girl would be riding with me from time to time. All good,,contact us when you get here. uhmmm so I did,,


When we moved I went in and paid initiation fee and all,,couple guys in clubhouse,I said Im new,,I'll but your next round,,they took. Then things changed, one guy asked me about my family,so I told him,, his response,, So you have a retard? I told him we dont use that word and I would appreciate if he wouldnt say it again. So he said, "then you are a retard too" So I immediately asked for a refund,,not given.
A month later,,many emails re my refund I decide to call the CC last eve. Oh My,, gal on phone (who was one who took my fee) called me a motherfucker, said I was rude to the guy in clubhouse and why would I even bring a ret**** to this town?

I didnt sleep last night, I never felt hatred like this. MrsK a bit more composed than me, contacted someone who will go to the board of directors at Country Club. I told her ok,,Im selling my golf clubs, I do not want to be around this kind of hate..

I'll sign with a bit of a joke,because Mrs K settled me down

Have a great day from a ret***d Dad and his Re***** Daughter.
Thanks for listening


Koz

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First time in 60 years I felt true hatred last night, (Original Post) kozar Jul 2020 OP
Horrible Sanity Claws Jul 2020 #1
I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like more info coti Jul 2020 #2
I can name town and names,, kozar Jul 2020 #27
Good. Kick their asses relayerbob Jul 2020 #79
I totally agree...Kick their ass and bankrupt them gopiscrap Jul 2020 #103
Maybe your lawyer can get help from the Judge David L. Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law csziggy Jul 2020 #141
Christ, I'm so sorry your family was treated like that. Hope the CC Board acts properly. Take care. Hoyt Jul 2020 #3
How insensitive they were! For crying out loud, what's gotten into people?? Were they always this secondwind Jul 2020 #4
That's what I thought, too. How thoughtless and cruel people are - calimary Jul 2020 #82
Trump has brought out the sickest pathologies in these people. dawg day Jul 2020 #5
From this special education teacher: rateyes Jul 2020 #19
This 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #24
I worked in HCP supported living homes for 10 years,, kozar Jul 2020 #29
My daughter worked at a grocery store, years ago. Scarsdale Jul 2020 #46
this!!!! nt kozar Jul 2020 #70
I would call them back and get them on tape, then hire a good lawyer and sue. amywalk Jul 2020 #110
good lawyer is , kozar Jul 2020 #113
Bravo! The very best to your family, Koz! Cha Jul 2020 #135
Trust me........ MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #6
Wow...what a deplorable batch of garbage to deal with. roamer65 Jul 2020 #7
Yes - trumpsters are like that. I proudly emailed my dad a pic of me helping a child in a pool. AnotherMother4Peace Jul 2020 #8
Gentle thoughts for you and you Daughter Tribalceltic Jul 2020 #9
I'm sorry cate94 Jul 2020 #10
Holy crap! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #11
Any chance of going to local media about this? Reader Rabbit Jul 2020 #12
working on it,, kozar Jul 2020 #18
Who are these people? malaise Jul 2020 #13
It is hard not to let these idiots cause torment. Hope karma comes to them BSdetect Jul 2020 #14
Have you thought about a civil rights suit? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #15
It would be worth a call to a lawyer. I know I would. nt Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #20
read reply about her brother,,above,, yep!!! kozar Jul 2020 #21
Don't get mad, get even! Goodheart Jul 2020 #22
Don't get even ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #81
I'm so sorry that happened to you. yardwork Jul 2020 #16
This is abhorrent behavior. Evil personified. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #17
im looking at all replies and support kozar Jul 2020 #23
Until you name names Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #25
"What they hate more than anything is exposure." llmart Jul 2020 #124
What really gets to these Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #126
If Facebook or other social media is available Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #156
Campground Web searchs are Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #161
I was confused by the OP. I thought it was a local country club, not the campground? cwydro Jul 2020 #165
Could be, Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #166
I would imagine so! cwydro Jul 2020 #169
Couple of them in Southern Colorado. Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #170
You should have hit him with a 2-iron. Patterson Jul 2020 #26
not even God can hit a 1 iron correctly, kozar Jul 2020 #30
I knew someone would come through. Patterson Jul 2020 #34
actually I sold all my m6 irons kozar Jul 2020 #35
Too bad they took the joy out of something you liked to do. SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2020 #52
save the receipt barbtries Jul 2020 #73
The dreaded R word hibbing Jul 2020 #28
That is the one word that will get a high school student I teach rateyes Jul 2020 #59
I'm so sorry that your family NellieStarbuck Jul 2020 #31
Write a composed thoughtful letter to each member of the Board of Directors grantcart Jul 2020 #32
already sold,, kozar Jul 2020 #39
You married a smart woman, but you already knew that. grantcart Jul 2020 #40
You gotta admit your decision to distance from them is an excellent one. lunatica Jul 2020 #33
good gawd rurallib Jul 2020 #36
You and your family are victims of a hate crime and fraud Miigwech Jul 2020 #37
lil bits brother is a city attorney kozar Jul 2020 #41
Justice will be your reward because those two are gonna get some instant karma Miigwech Jul 2020 #44
You have every right to be livid Alpeduez21 Jul 2020 #132
Can't say I'm surprised. Aristus Jul 2020 #38
Where the fuck is this? ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #42
when son tells me I can talk,,I will post,, kozar Jul 2020 #43
Ok ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #140
Yeah I know what you mean. I have a SEVERELY retarded daughter and as we moved demigoddess Jul 2020 #45
omg kozar Jul 2020 #47
move up here!! our sons friends have always been nice to her and never have I demigoddess Jul 2020 #65
if I could afford .. kozar Jul 2020 #108
We have a golf course not far from us. demigoddess Jul 2020 #139
As it should be. JudyM Jul 2020 #167
Jeezus HC. What disgusting "people." What's really disgusting: They think they are funny and right. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #48
This is their great leader they worship. Is there any wonder? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #49
+1. People who saw that clip and still voted for him are just as sadistic and evil as he is. dalton99a Jul 2020 #68
What state is the CC in? MLAA Jul 2020 #50
uhmm I shouldnt but State seems fairly safe kozar Jul 2020 #54
I'm shocked Hstch05 Jul 2020 #63
Give em hell, Koz, give the sick assholes hell. MLAA Jul 2020 #56
Brother Koz, hugs irisblue Jul 2020 #51
sister Iris, kozar Jul 2020 #122
I think they should change the slogan from MAGA to MACA leftieNanner Jul 2020 #53
Leave a bad review on Yelp tenderfoot Jul 2020 #55
Lawyer son told me to add some context to my post kozar Jul 2020 #57
Beautiful!! rateyes Jul 2020 #60
She's beautiful. I'm seriously jealous of her hair color. Vinca Jul 2020 #69
I can see why you are so hurt. You and her have a special bond. Such love. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #86
What a precious, beautiful girl! n/t Penn Voter Jul 2020 #88
That picture made my day Metatron Jul 2020 #133
beautiful child, sweet baby. peacebuzzard Jul 2020 #146
Lovely photo! easttexaslefty Jul 2020 #148
Dude. Tears. Laelth Jul 2020 #159
I'm so sorry for the way they treated you kimbutgar Jul 2020 #58
I am profoundly sorry that you and your family have had to experience this. Dem2theMax Jul 2020 #61
Stay strong Champp Jul 2020 #62
I truly cant wait kozar Jul 2020 #64
What a bag of assholes. CentralMass Jul 2020 #66
jeez that's sad. barbtries Jul 2020 #67
oh shit!! that was what I was called,, kozar Jul 2020 #72
i almost said that barbtries Jul 2020 #77
You called them out to their faces, and they couldn't handle it. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #71
Disgusting behavior relayerbob Jul 2020 #74
Get it on cell phone audio - packman Jul 2020 #75
By not outing them, you are giving them permission to PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #76
I will out them when my son kozar Jul 2020 #118
What is his rationale for telling you to stay quiet? PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #129
It's sound legal advice. Laelth Jul 2020 #160
Your daughter is beautiful. MontanaMama Jul 2020 #78
Kozar, please go to the news media. I'm sure they would be interested in this situation. LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #80
like I posted before,, kozar Jul 2020 #117
OMG LUCKY! kozar Jul 2020 #120
Sounds good, Koz! LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #153
Koz, so sorry you had to experience this, but you have an absolutely beautiful daughter. The best c-rational Jul 2020 #83
What the hell? Catherine Vincent Jul 2020 #84
I am so sorry this happened to you and your family. Remember when trump Maraya1969 Jul 2020 #85
That is disgusting. There is no shame in Trumpland. CountMyVote4Reality Jul 2020 #87
May you find peace in the knowledge that all here at DU are behind you 1000% cayugafalls Jul 2020 #89
I have a learning challenged son that is now in his fifties. appleannie1 Jul 2020 #90
I am so sorry. I can't believe that this could happen now Rhiannon12866 Jul 2020 #91
Grrr fuck them proud patriot Jul 2020 #92
So sorry you went through this horrible experience.. Stuart G Jul 2020 #93
JFC... WTAF?!?!? 🤬🤬🤬 dixiechiken1 Jul 2020 #94
What a shitty club. You might consider breaking camp and finding a decent place to park. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #95
My son has Down Syndrome, so while I know this is out there, I have never myself... SKKY Jul 2020 #96
I didn't know anyone talked like this anymore. Unbelievable! The ignorance of these people is Cousin Dupree Jul 2020 #97
You want to feel instantly better? Watch the ad in the link below. Pepsidog Jul 2020 #98
that is horrifying, so sorry LymphocyteLover Jul 2020 #99
Horrible people out there Nululu Jul 2020 #100
I'm sorry seta1950 Jul 2020 #101
OMG I as so sorry this happened to you and your daughter gopiscrap Jul 2020 #102
Go to local media and get it on social media Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #104
That is worthy of physical assault. gordianot Jul 2020 #105
That's horrible, I'm sorry to had to experience that. Don't let them get you down!!! CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #106
These people have deprived your lovely daughter of some quality time outdoors with you. NBachers Jul 2020 #107
Tess and I went swimming kozar Jul 2020 #109
Small claims court and call a local reporter .... if you have a local newspaper. Botany Jul 2020 #111
There are lots of assholes in the country and trump has emboldened them spanone Jul 2020 #112
Hatred is seldom an valid option... BadGimp Jul 2020 #114
distilled to our essence by an unmanaged pandemic. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2020 #115
Welcome to full-time RV life. I've been full-time for 7 yrs now. Love it! SammyWinstonJack Jul 2020 #116
I am so so humbled,, with all repsonses kozar Jul 2020 #119
may I ask an ignorant question? cab67 Jul 2020 #121
handicapped in this instance kozar Jul 2020 #123
ok,,,,to Artimus and LuckyCharms,,,on a simple Friday kozar Jul 2020 #125
I am so sorry! redwitch Jul 2020 #127
mean, mean times llashram Jul 2020 #128
Sounds like Nazi Germany. What incredibly rude, intolerant people. Nt raccoon Jul 2020 #130
and after about 150 recs, and we made it to greatest page..I'll add this kozar Jul 2020 #131
The ones calling you and your beautiful daughter this word are truly the ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #134
I wouldn't drop it. I would make a complaint to the Better Business Bureau. BigDemVoter Jul 2020 #136
I'm impressed you did not smash the guy right then and there. drray23 Jul 2020 #137
I cant even anymore.. kozar Jul 2020 #138
Country clubs are (mostly) elitist, with bad history MyMission Jul 2020 #142
Trump has normalized behavior that years ago social norms would have deemed rude, Karadeniz Jul 2020 #143
if it were me he would have been knocked out vercetti2021 Jul 2020 #144
Oh my ... Delphinus Jul 2020 #145
Quite a lot of people are re-thinking their social connections these days... Trueblue Texan Jul 2020 #147
I am so very sorry. Dreampuff Jul 2020 #149
So sorry you had to experience this! futureliveshere Jul 2020 #150
I would have went and got my 9 iron and beat the fuck out of that guy. Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #151
God bless Joinfortmill Jul 2020 #152
wow. ugly. sorry you ran into a group of *sses. Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #154
SO sorry, Koz. elleng Jul 2020 #155
Country Clubs are known to be full of trashy Trump Types JI7 Jul 2020 #157
Not cool. Distance and time are all I can recommend. n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #158
Country Clubs sell the illusion of a "perfect" world McCamy Taylor Jul 2020 #162
How awful! H2O Man Jul 2020 #163
I'm so incredibly angry you and your family were treated this way. EllieBC Jul 2020 #164
Stark contrast between their moral rot and your daughter's genuine beauty. JudyM Jul 2020 #168
Must be Trump voters. Nitram Jul 2020 #171
Nothing to add that hasn't already been said here except hamsterjill Jul 2020 #172
I wanna go kick some ass. Ilsa Jul 2020 #173
Ive been quiet for a few days,, kozar Jul 2020 #174

kozar

(2,082 posts)
27. I can name town and names,,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jul 2020

but as Tess Brother,,the lawyer told me,,dont do it,,not right now.. I wanna blow them outta the water,,,my legal advice,,( my son) says slow down Dad

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
141. Maybe your lawyer can get help from the Judge David L. Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jul 2020

From their page:

The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is designed to fully integrate people with disabilities into American life. The Act prohibits discrimination in employment, in the activities of state and local government, and by private businesses.

The ADA protects people with mental disabilities, including people with mental illnesses. The ADA protects people who have a current mental “impairment “or who are discriminated against because they have a history of such impairment or are regarded as having such an impairment.

The ADA attacks discrimination in three ways. First, it prohibits governments and business from treating people differently simply because they have a disability. Second, it requires governments and businesses to make changes to how they operate (“reasonable accommodations”) so that people with disabilities get the same access and the same benefits as other people. Third, the ADA requires that state and local governments deliver services, including mental health services, in “the most integrated setting,” that is, a setting that maximizes independence and participation in community life.

The ADA’s vision of independence and community integration informs all of the Bazelon Center’s work. We collaborate with the federal government and other advocates to ensure that government and businesses comply with the ADA, and we bring or assist in lawsuits that will advance compliance with the ADA.

http://www.bazelon.org/our-work/mental-health-systems/ada/


More about them:
Since 1972, the Judge David L. Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law has advocated for the civil rights, full inclusion and equality of adults and children with mental disabilities. We were pivotal in expanding the civil rights movement to include fighting discrimination against, and segregation of, people with mental disabilities. Today, the Bazelon Center accomplishes its goals through a unique combination of litigation, public policy advocacy, coalition building and leadership, public education, media outreach and technical assistance—a comprehensive approach that ensures we achieve the greatest impact.

We employ cutting-edge litigation to effect progressive systemic change and impact public policy. We secured early legal precedents creating basic civil rights for people with mental disabilities—including the rights to a public education, receive services in community-based settings instead of institutions, and make decisions about one’s own care. The Center was instrumental in the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) (1990) and played a key role in the historic case of Olmstead v. L.C. (1999), in which the Supreme Court found that needless segregation of people with psychiatric disabilities violates the ADA. Over the last decade, we have worked to expand the reach of Olmstead to address not only unnecessary institutionalization in public facilities (psychiatric and criminal justice), but also to remedy segregation in nursing homes, board and care homes, schools and classrooms, sheltered workshops, and other day services. Our Olmstead settlement agreements have provided thousands of individuals with opportunities to move out of segregated, dead-end facilities and to live full lives in their communities. We have set legal precedents defining a national model of comprehensive community-based disability systems.
http://www.bazelon.org/about/who-we-are/


What this club did is illegal under the ADA and they should have their asses kicked hard for it.

I don't blame you for being boiling mad - I would be, too. They need a very strong attitude adjustment and hitting them in the wallet would be a very good start.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Christ, I'm so sorry your family was treated like that. Hope the CC Board acts properly. Take care.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jul 2020

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
4. How insensitive they were! For crying out loud, what's gotten into people?? Were they always this
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jul 2020

way? This country is going to hell in a handbasket if we don't vote BLUE in November. It seems like all the HATERS
have decided they can do and say what they want.....

calimary

(81,091 posts)
82. That's what I thought, too. How thoughtless and cruel people are -
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

or have allowed themselves to become.

I think it's the trump effect. He made it okay to be "out 'n' proud" with your prejudices and insults and bad ideas and idiot positions and wrong ideas. He's made it okay for the total bastardization of the right to free speech - which now allows any proud, defiant, in-yer-face know-nothing an equal seat at the table with science, truth, and objective provable FACTS.

I guess I don't feel like that much of a free-speech advocate anymore. I think that mindset should be muzzled. I think damaging and false information should NOT be allowed to be aired in public. I don't think it deserves a seat at the table. I think it should be openly decried and denounced and NOT given a microphone or a venue to spout shit. And I'm not sure how that would be accomplished in this country, now. But now we've got separate "world-views" competing for air and light and attention. And they're all given the same level of "legitimacy." Hell, we've got Qanon nuts now running for office, and earning their party's (mainly republi-CON) nomination! There's such a freakazoid here in Oregon running for the US Senate right now, for Pete's sake! Such an individual shouldn't be found anywhere outside a padded cell. And, of course, there's the donald as well...

I'm not sure if we're ever going to be able to climb back up out of this.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
5. Trump has brought out the sickest pathologies in these people.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jul 2020

You have love in you and in your life.

They need to hate so much-- want to hate so much-- it will destroy their lives.

You'll be happy and loved, and they will die alone and probably pretty soon.

What a great idea, to move to the camper life. It sounds wonderful to have the freedom to move around with daughter and mrs.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
19. From this special education teacher:
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jul 2020

Sue the shit out of the CC, and take your story to the local TV news.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
29. I worked in HCP supported living homes for 10 years,,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jul 2020

Had 13 homes under my mgmnt,,3 people per home and staff. 24/7 I was on call always,, I appreciate your efforts to help these people.




Koz

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
46. My daughter worked at a grocery store, years ago.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jul 2020

One young man wit learning disabilities was hired. He collected the shopping carts from the parking lot, and took them back into the store. He was busy, constantly. One day, he was sick and had to miss a day. Two "normal" employees were joking about him, so my daughter said to them "He may have problems, but it will take BOTH of you to replace him. He works hard, never stops" I loathe people who mock handicapped people. Who do they think they are? Superior beings? All these disgusting people at the CC need to be exposed for what they are.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
113. good lawyer is ,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jul 2020

lil Bit's brother,guessing he has a "vested interest" in this as I never heard him talk to me like he did last night,,he told me,,"you post no specifics, you keep your mouth shut. I m gonna do this." welp..its his sister,, wink wink




Koz

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
6. Trust me........
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jul 2020

There is a special corner in HELL for people like that - and it's extra large as they had planned ahead for this time in the history of our country.

I'm SO sorry that you were subjected to such ignorance.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,237 posts)
8. Yes - trumpsters are like that. I proudly emailed my dad a pic of me helping a child in a pool.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jul 2020

She had a significant physical disability. He responded with a stupid ass, trump like response - cold (pro-life my ass). My dad is deceased now - such a shame that his trump cultism interfered with his status in the family. He was a WW2 vet, but became increasingly estranged from his large family.

Tribalceltic

(1,000 posts)
9. Gentle thoughts for you and you Daughter
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jul 2020

I worked 18 years with developmentally disabled adults. I saw so many horrible examples of people being bigots. But what I choose to remember is the team of wonderful people that I worked with , trying to make each of their days a little bit better


cate94

(2,807 posts)
10. I'm sorry
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jul 2020

No one should be treated in that manner. I’ve had people sneer at me, and call me names because of my orientation. It’s been going on most of my life. I think it would be so much harder if the name calling was towards one of the people I love. It’s easier to grow a thick skin when it’s you they are attacking, you know?

Your special needs child is lucky to have a father like you. I’m sure not all the people at the club are not assholes. If they won’t refund your money, go anyway. If they use the term retarded again, remind them their language is that of an 8 year old, apparently that’s when they stopped maturing.

for you and for your family.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
11. Holy crap!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jul 2020

Heartless people at that club!

You and your daughter need to avoid them for your emotional well-being.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
18. working on it,,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jul 2020

The CC doesnt know that lil bit (my daughter) brother is a city attorney and after I talked to him last night, I think,but am not sure,, that he is more pissed than me.. Gonna let him run with it


Koz

Fiendish Thingy

(15,545 posts)
15. Have you thought about a civil rights suit?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jul 2020

Your daughter is covered under the ADA, and the manager’s comments are pretty clearly discriminatory.

yardwork

(61,536 posts)
16. I'm so sorry that happened to you.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jul 2020

Half the country is consumed with resentments and anger. They're mostly unreachable at this point. They need to turn off hate radio and Fox News and reprogram themselves.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
17. This is abhorrent behavior. Evil personified.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jul 2020

I wish there was some way to retaliate but I doubt there is. I am so sorry for you and your daughter.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
23. im looking at all replies and support
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jul 2020

And Im just an old tough white guy,who is balling my eyes out right now at this support,,ty

Koz

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
25. Until you name names
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jul 2020

and Business,this crap will continue. What they hate more than anything is exposure.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
126. What really gets to these
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:23 PM
Jul 2020

bigots is,the Campground Review that one leaves on the Internet. We no longer have our R/V but,we have pulled up stakes and left a national R/V campground because of piss poor treatment of a Guest . Oh btw,yes we made sure our Credit Card payment was reversed just for shits and giggles.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
161. Campground Web searchs are
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jul 2020

killer for the bad actors. Just because their Ad's are all glossy and the narrative is wonderful,does not mean they are what they are. One pulled a R/V for maybe forty years,came across some really ugly set ups. As well as really ugly operators.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
165. I was confused by the OP. I thought it was a local country club, not the campground?
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jul 2020

Maybe I misunderstood.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
30. not even God can hit a 1 iron correctly,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jul 2020

and neither can I,,or even a 2 iron,,I do 4 iron at most,,,



Koz

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,400 posts)
52. Too bad they took the joy out of something you liked to do.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jul 2020

Maybe you should make that part of the lawsuit.I

Also, if you talk to local news and newspaper make sure you tell them how this incident soured you on your life-long enjoyment of golf.

Love and peace to you, your daughter and the rest of the family!

barbtries

(28,756 posts)
73. save the receipt
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jul 2020

for the lawsuit. bastards robbed you of a pastime you enjoyed, maybe you even used to love it and they ruined it for you.

hibbing

(10,094 posts)
28. The dreaded R word
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jul 2020

It is so offensive. I had two mentally and physically challenged brothers and my mother was a special education teacher, so needless to say I hate that word.


Peace to you.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
59. That is the one word that will get a high school student I teach
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jul 2020

in DEEP shit with me. Believe me, I’ve heard it, but never more than once out of the same student’s mouth!

NellieStarbuck

(265 posts)
31. I'm so sorry that your family
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jul 2020

has had to endure this. It's been proven again and again that money does not buy class, smarts, dignity or goodness.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
32. Write a composed thoughtful letter to each member of the Board of Directors
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jul 2020

Don't use a computer write it by hand.

Send it registered to their home or business address.

Don't care how right wing they are I cannot believe that the Board Members would agree.

If they are leasing public land call the city/county


Don't sell your clubs. Don't let them make you change your life.


kozar

(2,082 posts)
39. already sold,,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jul 2020

Mrs K doesnt like the decision,, but I can rent clubs cheaply enough if the feeling hits.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
33. You gotta admit your decision to distance from them is an excellent one.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jul 2020

Your experience offends me too. Get the hell away from those cootie laden asses, and thank the stars that you found out what utter slime they are right at the beginning.

Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
36. good gawd
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

If I didn't see this happening with my own eyes, I would never believe it.
Amazed you didn't cold cock the guy.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
37. You and your family are victims of a hate crime and fraud
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

Get a good lawyer so you don't have to deal with these individuals personally. The whole bunch are probably rotten so don't waste your energy. And, report them to the local police while you are at it, for stealing your money and hate crimes.. Makes my blood boil but you must always remember that we out-number the haters. So sorry that this had to happen to you and yours.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
41. lil bits brother is a city attorney
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

he told me last night to slow down and do nothing,,he will work on it. police know,,and were friendly. My hardest part is to listen to son and keep my mouth shut. Im livid...



Koz

Alpeduez21

(1,749 posts)
132. You have every right to be livid
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jul 2020

It is perfectly understandable. When someone who charges $500/hr is telling you that stuff for free you need to listen. No contact, period. Stay off the property. All the usual stuff.

You are a wonderful human being. Far better than me. At the very least your restraint is a shining example to people like me.
Thank you.

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
38. Can't say I'm surprised.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

Country clubs are the vacation hot-spots for the dregs of wealthy humanity. I'm sorry you and your daughter were treated so awfully...

kozar

(2,082 posts)
43. when son tells me I can talk,,I will post,,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jul 2020

not only my lawyer,,but dammit ,,my son,,,, I guess I need to listen to him now..

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
45. Yeah I know what you mean. I have a SEVERELY retarded daughter and as we moved
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jul 2020

around the country we had such experiences. When hubby retired from the military, we settled in the Seattle area where my daughter had been treated so wonderfully. From the kids in the neighborhood to the teachers. Now she looks out the front window almost all day long and people walking by wave at her to make her smile. I love this area and these people.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
47. omg
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:33 PM
Jul 2020

we are Seahawk fans,,they flew daughter and us out to Seattle for the Monday night game 3 years ago,, Lil bit played catch on field with Russ and Tyler,,they paid our hotel,plane and all,,except food,,I dropped about 500 on food,,God I miss fresh Seafood!


Koz

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
65. move up here!! our sons friends have always been nice to her and never have I
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:04 PM
Jul 2020

been accosted with pointed fingers etc like in other states.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
108. if I could afford ..
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:23 PM
Jul 2020

we would be there in a heart beat,,,just this lil thing of season tickets to Hawks,,the music scene we love,,the food.. etcetc... its just all the extras Seattle offers!!

Evolve Dammit

(16,694 posts)
48. Jeezus HC. What disgusting "people." What's really disgusting: They think they are funny and right.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jul 2020

They are not. They are despicable and H was too kind to call them "deplorables." I also have a special needs kiddo, and I'm afraid what I would do to a-holes like that. We need laws and enforcement on "hate speech." That is what they did. You have my sympathies.

MLAA

(17,238 posts)
50. What state is the CC in?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jul 2020

I am so sorry you had to deal with such fucking ignorance.

Edited to add:

Sorry, didn’t see your earlier answer to hold back info for now. I hope you can nail the bastards!

Hstch05

(219 posts)
63. I'm shocked
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jul 2020

SHOCKED that something like this happened in Florida.
Deep breaths. Breathe it out. It's going to be fine. The moral arc of the universe swings towards justice. You are a good man, good husband, and good father. I know you are beyond angry, and have every right to be. But listen to your son, bide your time, and wait for the right moment.

MLAA

(17,238 posts)
56. Give em hell, Koz, give the sick assholes hell.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jul 2020

I want them out of business, I know that’s a lot to hope for but the only thing such ignoramuses understand is their wallet.

leftieNanner

(15,058 posts)
53. I think they should change the slogan from MAGA to MACA
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jul 2020

Make America Cruel Again.

I am so sorry you had to go through this. Glad you could come over here to DU and vent your story.

Blessings to your family.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
69. She's beautiful. I'm seriously jealous of her hair color.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jul 2020

It's hard to imagine some people are as mean and nasty as they are.

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
86. I can see why you are so hurt. You and her have a special bond. Such love.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jul 2020

You are a very blessed man.

Those people will never hurt your love.

My prayers that they pay for their wrong deeds.

peacebuzzard

(5,146 posts)
146. beautiful child, sweet baby.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jul 2020


I am so sorry that you had to go through that wickedness.
That was a nasty cult you ran into at the CC.

kimbutgar

(21,040 posts)
58. I'm so sorry for the way they treated you
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jul 2020

I would have gone to a local legal aid to see if You could sue them for the refund. And to call your daughter that word is despicable. You don’t need to belong to that club.

I have a son who’s a autistic and we have experienced from time to time incidents of people being cruel. He lives in a group home and the people next door to it made a comment one time they were made a bunch of “ r” living next door. Well everytime they have loud parties the group home people call the police and they no longer make those comments.

Dem2theMax

(9,637 posts)
61. I am profoundly sorry that you and your family have had to experience this.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

Every single human being should be treated with love, respect and compassion. Period.

There is no place in this world for the kind of hate that was directed towards you and your daughter.
Unfortunately, Trump's behavior makes his followers think it's okay to act like this.

Please know there are more good people in this world than the ones you had to deal with at the golf course.

I know I can speak for everyone on DU when I say we are all here for you.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
62. Stay strong
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jul 2020

There have always been assholes, but fortunately there have always been more decent folk.

Thank you for being a loving dad. The world needs 8 billion more of you.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
64. I truly cant wait
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jul 2020

until son tells me I can go public.. your responses are awesome. I truly do feel the love that I needed, This world sucks because of Him.

Doing what I can do,,I want to respond and attack,,lawyer son telling me to shut up (hard for a Dad to hear) so ill play the legal game,this lil girl


Koz

barbtries

(28,756 posts)
77. i almost said that
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

the reality is they are the R word people. emotionally and empathetically damaged people.Grown ups do not do what they did to you and to your daughter. i'd rather be you, believe me.

relayerbob

(6,536 posts)
74. Disgusting behavior
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jul 2020

These aren't people. This "country club" isn't a country club, it's a fucking landfill. Fuck them

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
75. Get it on cell phone audio -
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jul 2020

I'd go back with my cell phone on record in my pocket and have another "discussion" with those pricks. Then send the recording to any local news station or post it.

Suggest doing the audio only, if they see a cell phone and believe they are being recorded , they will act and speak differently.

Go get them-assholes like that don't deserve to be around the public

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
76. By not outing them, you are giving them permission to
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

keep on this kind of thing.

You really need to contact local media.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
118. I will out them when my son
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jul 2020

the lawyer tells me I can... that lil bits bro,,he is prolly more pissed than me,, but he has got sisters back.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
160. It's sound legal advice.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

Courts strongly favor adjudication of disputes IN COURT as opposed to in the court of public opinion. It’s harder for the Court to act impartially if there’s strong public opinion about a given case. It’s also harder to find an impartial jury if the supposed “facts” of the case are widely known.

-Laelth

MontanaMama

(23,294 posts)
78. Your daughter is beautiful.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

Thank you for advocating for her and for what is right. I'm sorry we have people on the planet who are so full of hate that it overflows on to good people like you and your family. Hugs to all of you.

LuckyCharms

(17,410 posts)
80. Kozar, please go to the news media. I'm sure they would be interested in this situation.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jul 2020

Also, I'm sorry this happened to you and your family. I would be livid, and you are right to be angry and upset.

Post what happened on all social media that you may be a member of.

If they have a yelp or Google review page, do the same.

These are just my suggestions. I would ensure their business was ruined if they did this to my family, but you sound like a better man than me, so just follow your heart on how to handle this.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
117. like I posted before,,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jul 2020

her brother is a city attorney and told me,,in REALLY NO UNCERTAIN TERMS,, Shut up Dad! post no specifics call no one but our family!,
Guess I need to not divulge anymore...

kozar

(2,082 posts)
120. OMG LUCKY!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jul 2020

I always wanted to say this to you,, lets just light one up! I've read your posts forever.


Koz

c-rational

(2,587 posts)
83. Koz, so sorry you had to experience this, but you have an absolutely beautiful daughter. The best
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jul 2020

advice I can give is simply to look at her and see love. Plus all the other good recommendations on just retribution given here.

Catherine Vincent

(34,486 posts)
84. What the hell?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jul 2020

I am so sorry this happened to you. I can't believe grown folks would use such a word...and if they didn't know that wasn't acceptable, someone in their inner circle should have corrected them on it. Unbelievable!

Maraya1969

(22,459 posts)
85. I am so sorry this happened to you and your family. Remember when trump
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jul 2020

made fun of that journalist who had a movement disorder and everyone laughed? What a sad way to live your life.

I hope you find another place where people are kind and decent.

87. That is disgusting. There is no shame in Trumpland.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jul 2020

I’m so sorry you had to endure that trash in your community.

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
89. May you find peace in the knowledge that all here at DU are behind you 1000%
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

You do you, keep us up to date on the outcome and I hope your lawyer makes them suffer.

If not, feel free to let social media take the case...

appleannie1

(5,060 posts)
90. I have a learning challenged son that is now in his fifties.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

He has gone camping with us. I take him bowling. My other son is in LeMans type racing. Michael not only loves to attend the races, different teams have allowed him to sit in the cars. We have taken him to 5 star restaurants. We made arrangements last December for him to fly to visit his sister for Christmas, all on his own. The airlines were awesome and he got VIP treatment. Apparently that golf club has a lot of uneducated fools running it. If I were you, I would find another campground in another town where your whole family is welcome.

Rhiannon12866

(204,695 posts)
91. I am so sorry. I can't believe that this could happen now
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

I spent a school year working with disabled kids, a young class ages 2-6, most of them were 4. I loved them dearly and think of them often since this was back in the late '70s and I wonder about how they're doing now. I still remember all their names and I can't believe anyone would have made fun of them even back then. Someone must be chopping onions nearby...

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
94. JFC... WTAF?!?!? 🤬🤬🤬
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jul 2020

My god. I am so, so, so sorry you had the misfortune of having to deal with assholes like this.

I'm glad you are seeking some legal recourse on this situation. I also agree that, if not now, (because it might jeopardize your case), at some point you should take this to the local media. Shine a very public light on their ignorance and hatred. These people are like cockroaches - they scurry back into the shadows when exposed to light.

Best wishes to you & your family.

SKKY

(11,792 posts)
96. My son has Down Syndrome, so while I know this is out there, I have never myself...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jul 2020

...experienced this level of vitriol by anyone. Having said that, I'm very thankful because if someone were to ever ask me, "So you have a retard?", or if I saw someone talking like that about someone else, I genuinely don't know how I would handle it but I assure you it would not end well for my fist and their face. That you maintained your cool is commendable, because I would have hit that punk with so many lefts, he'd beg me for a right. And I know that is not the right reaction. I recognize that. But, it's what would happen. I'm sorry you had to deal with this asshole Koz, but I'm also glad I didn't because I can't imagine a scenario that doesn't have me calling you to come get me out of jail.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
97. I didn't know anyone talked like this anymore. Unbelievable! The ignorance of these people is
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

beyond belief. Are you sure you didn’t time travel back to the 1950’s?

Nululu

(840 posts)
100. Horrible people out there
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jul 2020

Having jerks like that catered to means others will not go.

You can bet they've lost lots of business with people that rude.

gopiscrap

(23,725 posts)
102. OMG I as so sorry this happened to you and your daughter
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:18 PM
Jul 2020

I would be so pissed. You should tell us where this happened and maybe we could socially shame the place

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
104. Go to local media and get it on social media
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jul 2020

Full description. Name of the country club and people involved. Otherwise all these racists and Karens would be thriving.

Golf is a great sport with not the best demographic, to put it mildly. I have mentioned this on golf forums in recent years when discussing declining participation. Besides time expenditure and difficulties of playing the sport competently, why would young people want to get involved given the type of person they'd often encounter?

I've had plenty of blowback because the Trumpers think the company and conversation is marvelous. Their kids will grow up with golf and be thinking and saying all the same things.

gordianot

(15,232 posts)
105. That is worthy of physical assault.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jul 2020

Stop look around just do it. This is very consistent with what I have seen from golfers and especially country club snobs.

CaptainTruth

(6,573 posts)
106. That's horrible, I'm sorry to had to experience that. Don't let them get you down!!!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jul 2020

Their actions are a reflection of what terrible people THEY are, not you, not your daughter, or anyone else. It all reflects on them.

Botany

(70,442 posts)
111. Small claims court and call a local reporter .... if you have a local newspaper.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jul 2020

Give 'em some pub.

spanone

(135,781 posts)
112. There are lots of assholes in the country and trump has emboldened them
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

I hate what he's done to this country....may he rot in the hottest hollows of hell

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,082 posts)
115. distilled to our essence by an unmanaged pandemic.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:32 PM
Jul 2020

I actually thing some Repubs want to kill off people. They don't care about immigrants or refugees dying. Money is about all they care for outside of themselves.

I had a few exchanges with a schedule at a doctor's office. She was very rude the three times we spoke.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
116. Welcome to full-time RV life. I've been full-time for 7 yrs now. Love it!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jul 2020

So sorry for what has happened to you.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
119. I am so so humbled,, with all repsonses
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:45 PM
Jul 2020

as alone as I felt last night,,is how much I feel loved with lil bit today,,My God,,THANK YOU ALL!

cab67

(2,990 posts)
121. may I ask an ignorant question?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jul 2020

I'm unfamiliar with the acronym "HCP," except as "health care provider." Can someone enlighten me?

kozar

(2,082 posts)
125. ok,,,,to Artimus and LuckyCharms,,,on a simple Friday
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jul 2020

I will be a bit off the edge,, and answer your questions semi fully. We are in Fla,,city starts with Chief,, my lawyer son gonna hate me,but you guys deserve the truth as I can within some limits.

Koz

redwitch

(14,940 posts)
127. I am so sorry!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

I would far rather be your daughter than those horrible people. Give her a hug from me!

llashram

(6,265 posts)
128. mean, mean times
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jul 2020

trump has told clowns like this that civility is out and mean, self-centred hate, spite is in vogue. Does not surprise me the open hostility.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
131. and after about 150 recs, and we made it to greatest page..I'll add this
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jul 2020

and I and lil bit are Caucasian,, I cannot begin to think ,what our brothers and sisters of color are going through,,and I will never pretend to give the impression that I know. I'll just say,,,I got your back too!

Koz

SWBTATTReg

(22,059 posts)
134. The ones calling you and your beautiful daughter this word are truly the ...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jul 2020

scumbags in this scenario.

Every family and every clic group has its share of valued family members and friends who are challenged in some manner and to be honest w/ you, I think that they bring so much to the table, with their outlook on life, and magnificent viewpoints on the small things in life that the rest of us overlook (you know how life is, busy busy busy).

When I was young, I was profoundly hard of hearing (and they didn't know it at first what was wrong), so I was in a special school until I was 9 years old (my Mom insisted to the doctors that it seemed to be a hearing problem but they ignored her). Not until did I have a incident on the swing set (I got pushed off, broke my shoulder as a result) did I finally get a hearing test (at 9 years old)!

Once I was fitted w/ a hearing aid, my world changed. I was one of the lucky ones in that they found something wrong w/ me that could be fixed or rectified so easily. I know that in most cases, things can't be rectified so easily, a lot of my fellow classmates I went to school w/ back then were in this category, but I never imagined them to 'retarded'...never imagined it or even knew what the word meant at first. I still think of my fellow classmates so long ago in that special school, and everyone of them still has a special place in my heart. To me, they were my friends, and I theirs. I never knew that anything was amiss (and it wasn't).

I too was called a 'retard' back then (until I was 9 years old), I didn't understand the word back then (and I am guessing your beautiful daughter doesn't know what word means either).

To all of those using such a hateful word and reveling in it should be ashamed of themselves. If I were their mother, I would box their ears. This is pathetic and shameful behavior. We were all raised to be better than this and there's no excuse for such behavior other than just being a d**khead.

To this day, I laugh and mock at anyone that ever uses this word in a hateful manner. It's pathetic on their part and also they really don't know the true meaning of the word. They and the CC are the retards in this scenario, and you and your daughter are the true heroes in this story to me, for standing up for your beliefs, for standing up for your daughter, and for up against such ignorant hate.

Peace to your daughter, your wife, and you

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
136. I wouldn't drop it. I would make a complaint to the Better Business Bureau.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jul 2020

This may not be something for which they have oversight, but I would make damn sure this got some ugly publicity. This is so far beyond what is acceptable, and it is indicative of what that orange, ass wipe has encouraged in this country. And for the record, I am so far beyond appalled. I'm sorry you had to listen to this kind of BS.

drray23

(7,615 posts)
137. I'm impressed you did not smash the guy right then and there.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jul 2020

I would probably have been charged with assault in this situation.

kozar

(2,082 posts)
138. I cant even anymore..
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jul 2020

cant keep up with posts,cant respond to all posts. I took lil bit swimming today she had a ball, now Dad just needs to sleep,,Lucky Im Im Caucasian and no one will break down my door


You guys rock thank you


Koz

MyMission

(1,849 posts)
142. Country clubs are (mostly) elitist, with bad history
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jul 2020

And bad records of inclusion. Jews and blacks used to be banned from them, and other "undesirables" too. They want a certain type.

I can see how they might be appealing for socializing, and activities, but obviously they still want a certain type and draw people of a certain type.

Obviously not who I (or you) would want to socialize with! So they're not our kind of people either, the country club set.

I am so sorry you had to deal with such hate and ignorance, and would probably have had the same feelings of hatred, frustration and betrayal that you felt.

My brother is "slow" and one of the most remarkable people I know. He was called a retard in the 1960's, sent to a special school. When he wanted to attend the high school I had attended he needed a 9th grade reading level to enter. I worked with him and he got his reading level up, graduated from the same high school I did, and even went on to take classes at the community college (because I was in college). He's slow, not stupid. It may take him a bit longer but he learns. He drives, lives independently with a roommate. And has more kindness and compassion than most people I know.

And about golf: I often think golf courses should be turned into farms and gardens; and golfers should become farmers and gardeners and get their exercise while growing edible or beautiful, fragrant plants. Maybe you and your daughter can take up that hobby?!?

Karadeniz

(22,461 posts)
143. Trump has normalized behavior that years ago social norms would have deemed rude,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:00 PM
Jul 2020

Hateful, unacceptable...for some people, not us all. I think societal norms are related to the Bystander Effect which was described in a recent post.

Trueblue Texan

(2,419 posts)
147. Quite a lot of people are re-thinking their social connections these days...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jul 2020

I may have to give up my dancing community. But having decent friends is better than any activity I enjoy.

I am sorry people can be so hateful. I had a special needs sister whom I adored--people were often mean to her, too. Too bad hatefulness causes people to miss out on relationships with wonderful people in life. Their loss.

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
149. I am so very sorry.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jul 2020

What kind of people could say things like that to others? How ignorant and sad and you did the right thing by moving on.

futureliveshere

(1,412 posts)
150. So sorry you had to experience this!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jul 2020

Your daughter is beautiful and you are doing the right thing by her and following your sons instructions. I pray you will be able to forgive the losers in the CC while continuing to teach them a sound lesson so they think a 100 times before doing something like this again.

Stay happy and safe.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
151. I would have went and got my 9 iron and beat the fuck out of that guy.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:27 PM
Jul 2020

I'm mostly non-violent...but that guy should suffer.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
157. Country Clubs are known to be full of trashy Trump Types
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 07:24 AM
Jul 2020

I'm not sure if there is a way to find out before if a particular one is a good one or the usual shitty ones though . And it's common for people to find out after paying and not get their money back.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
163. How awful!
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jul 2020

I wish that I could come up with a meaningful response. But I can't. That guy is evil, and owns the problem. Your family does not own it. But it has to be so insulting.

EllieBC

(2,988 posts)
164. I'm so incredibly angry you and your family were treated this way.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jul 2020

My oldest has ASD, anxiety, SPD, and ADHD. When she was around 3-6 years old she was still learning to self regulate and had many meltdowns in public. I got many nasty looks and sometimes even a few comments.

I got so bitter I started fighting back. Once in a grocery store I heard an older woman say, “who wants to hear THAT??”. I turned around and told her no one wants to hear her old ass either so stfu.

People with disabilities, especially children, still aren’t protected enough.

JudyM

(29,187 posts)
168. Stark contrast between their moral rot and your daughter's genuine beauty.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:44 PM
Jul 2020

My dad used to say, “Class will tell.” In this case, couldn’t be more true. What low lifes.

It is stunning that some people (generally repukes, It seems) have such a total lack of wisdom.

You are both supported by the good people in the world, like DUers!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
172. Nothing to add that hasn't already been said here except
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jul 2020

Those people are creeps and don’t deserve your time, and it breaks my heart that assholes like them still exist.

Give that young lady a big hug from me and keep your head held high!

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
173. I wanna go kick some ass.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jul 2020

If anyone said that about my son, I'd do something that would get me arrested, but I know I'd feel better.

I can't wait until the Big Reveal. I hope it's somewhere near me in the southeast. (It's a shame lightning hasn't struck and burned their shithole down.)



kozar

(2,082 posts)
174. Ive been quiet for a few days,,
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:11 PM
Jul 2020

This post happened on mid June,, it is now mid July and I will share,,,,, Tess isn't well she went from 85 pounds to 53 in these short weeks. While I love the support I have seen to this post,,, even her Dr in Tn who has taken care of her for life,, just told wife,,looks like it is the time. I wont post pics of lil bit at 40 pounds,, just look at her at 80 pounds and enjoy. I am kind of
in middle of all, I worked so long in handicapped field. Went to way too many funerals.

here's whats gonna happen DU .. lil bit gonna go on her way,, I didn't wait until that day,, which Docs say is coming.. but lil bit taught me,,Dad just do,,,,,, I will tell you all when ill 0bit gone,, my posts here are gone also,,,, I truly do not know who I will be a couple weeks from now,, or even a few days


I guess I get to say this,, Koz

is truly out,....... and with what I typed , Guess Im gone already Ill just go


Bye Friends bye Lil Bit

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