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Star-Thrower

(309 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:16 PM Jul 2020

I do not want to die from covid-19

I'm a representative payee to a disblabled neighbor. His disability is not physical but mental, bipolar. He's easily frustrated but manages to somewhat control himself. He's had an ongoing feud with another neighbor with cops being called on a regular basis. He was finally forced to move as his property was bought by a real estate company. He owned his trailer but not the lot.

I digress. His mother died 3 years ago and she ruled him with an iron fist. When she became unable to drive to the bank to get his disablity checks and grocery shopping I volunteered to drive them. She insisted upon paying me and I would not accept the money. I spoke with friends (i'm a yankee from ny state) and my southern friends said that that's wat we southerners do. reluctantly I accepted the money. The family of 3 sisters and 2 sons fought over her car and her trailer. My disabled neighbor had a handwritten note from his mom that he would get the trailer and the car. This siblings threatened him saying they were going to admit him to a psych. ward. He prevailed. He then chose me over his siblings to be is representative payee.

So for several years now I have on the 3rd of the month drive him to his bank, he has no credit card and no debit card so he usually takes out 1,300.00 in cash a month to pay his bills etc. The reason he can't drive is 12 years ago he got a dui. In order to get his license back he has to pay a lot of money for classis etc.

On Tuesday July 7, 2020 I went to pick him up. When he got in I told him that he had to wear his face mask. He put it on and off we went. It's about a 25 minute drive. At one point he pushed his mask down to epose his nose saying he couldn't breath. Then he abandoned the whole thing so he could smoke. This is my failure to insist on his behavior in my car. I was furious as we continued on to home he had to stop here, then there then someplace else. I lost it and exploded as he tried to give me a 10.00 bill to make another stop. I gritted my teeth and waved away his 10.dollar bill saying "There are more thing important than money, Mike", drove him back home.

Some background to this story. He pays for sex. Despite his DUI he's been hanging out at a local bar that he rides his bicyle to. I had asked him, are they wearing masks inside? Nope. His go to prostitute has many guys she services. This is so tawdry and just ICK. So today worring about my own freaking health I called him up and said "hey mike, I think it would be best if you asked ''sister" to take you to you next psych. appointment.

I'm a senior in good health. I do not want to die. I'm careful wear my mask go out once in a while to shop, library etc. in off hours. I'm done with my former friend/neighbor.

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I do not want to die from covid-19 (Original Post) Star-Thrower Jul 2020 OP
You did the right thing lettucebe Jul 2020 #1
Yeah what can you do? soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
It was kind of you to help this man, but you have no obligation The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #3
Good for you Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #4
Your health considerations are paramount. magicarpet Jul 2020 #5
I hope that's the end of that for you lunatica Jul 2020 #6
There are plenty of authrities available to take control of this person, from his sisters to the ... marble falls Jul 2020 #7
You absolutely should not drive him anywhere anymore Tumbulu Jul 2020 #8
You were more than patient! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #9
You tried to be a nice neighbor Yeehah Jul 2020 #10
You did the right thing 😊 MLAA Jul 2020 #11
Sounds like you've already done a lot more for this guy than most people would agree to do. LisaL Jul 2020 #12
Thank you all who commented Star-Thrower Jul 2020 #13
There's not really much else you can do. He can't require you put your life on the Squinch Jul 2020 #14
Your life MFM008 Jul 2020 #15
You did the right thing. RhodeIslandOne Jul 2020 #16
If You Are RobinA Jul 2020 #17
Neighbor (the beneficiary) could request to change his representative payee. LisaL Jul 2020 #21
Right. But what if beneficiary refuses to do that? Laelth Jul 2020 #30
I was so afraid you were going to say he gave you covid! Sucha NastyWoman Jul 2020 #18
You have to take care of yourself first. TNNurse Jul 2020 #19
Sounds reasonable to me.... Turbineguy Jul 2020 #20
I'd have made him get out of the car the second he took his mask off. DenverJared Jul 2020 #22
I have Star-Thrower Jul 2020 #28
You've done more than most would do, helping this man for more than 3 years. The only thing pnwmom Jul 2020 #23
I can't even figure out if this guy legally needs a payee. LisaL Jul 2020 #24
Will a bank cash a govt. check for someone who doesn't have an account? nt pnwmom Jul 2020 #26
It has something to do with Star-Thrower Jul 2020 #29
Sounds unlikely to me. Laelth Jul 2020 #31
You did as much as you could for as long as you could dlk Jul 2020 #25
He pays for sex...no social distancing there...and goes to bars...ditto. You CANNOT be around Karadeniz Jul 2020 #27

lettucebe

(2,337 posts)
1. You did the right thing
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jul 2020

Taking care of him was good and you did it as long as feasible but now it is just no longer feasible to put yourself in danger like that for a non-relative.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,867 posts)
3. It was kind of you to help this man, but you have no obligation
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:21 PM
Jul 2020

to risk your own health when he obviously doesn't care about his own.

magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
5. Your health considerations are paramount.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jul 2020

High risk social interactions at your age and with the realities of the Covid situation are not advisable.

Be well.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. I hope that's the end of that for you
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jul 2020

You did the right thing. Being bipolar entails mood swings that are so severe that people who have it take medication to keep them on an even keel. It isn’t something that affects their intelligence or ability to reason. You aren’t abandoning someone who can’t find their way.

You need to take care of yourself during this pandemic.

marble falls

(57,246 posts)
7. There are plenty of authrities available to take control of this person, from his sisters to the ...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jul 2020

state. There is no reason for you to be handling this person by yourself. Whatever agency that recognizes you as his "representative payee" might be a good place to start if you think the sisters might act not in his interests.

This simple act of kindness has become more than you should handle. Get some help - your concerns are reasonable and rational.

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
8. You absolutely should not drive him anywhere anymore
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:26 PM
Jul 2020

and I am hoping that you remain healthy after being put at risk like this.

So glad that you made the change!

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
12. Sounds like you've already done a lot more for this guy than most people would agree to do.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jul 2020

Since he has relatives, let one of them be his representative payee. This guy is of no relation to you. You shouldn't be worried about his bad behaviors and taking him around, when he won't even keep his mask on in your car.
Relatives with problems? Those you are stuck with. Your neighbor? Let his relatives deal with him.

Squinch

(51,017 posts)
14. There's not really much else you can do. He can't require you put your life on the
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jul 2020

line to help him out, when that is totally unnecessary.

MFM008

(19,820 posts)
15. Your life
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jul 2020

Is more important than his intransigence.
Im bipolar and can totally understand what wear a damn
Mask means. I do it in my friends car.
No excuses.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
17. If You Are
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:50 PM
Jul 2020

his rep payée you do have certain obligations to him. Which understandably you now want to get out of. If I were you I would consult a lawyer who knows his/her way around social security. A lawyer could explain your options and help you get disentangled from this situation. Yes, this will cost some money. But you are in a situation that could cause you much grief, and that’s without the COVID part of the story. Good Luck!

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
21. Neighbor (the beneficiary) could request to change his representative payee.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jul 2020

Relatives are actually preferred as payees.
"If a beneficiary believes there is a rep payee who is a better fit for their circumstances, the beneficiary should contact the local SSA office regardless of whether the proposed rep payee meets the standards above or is lower on the preference list than the current rep payee is. SSA determines whether to change a rep payee on a case-by-case basis to ensure the beneficiary’s best interest is served."
https://www.disabilityrightswa.org/publications/how-change-remove-or-report-representative-payee/

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,754 posts)
18. I was so afraid you were going to say he gave you covid!
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:58 PM
Jul 2020

And so glad that you are well and stood up for yourself.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
19. You have to take care of yourself first.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jul 2020

I agree, seek legal help. Your obligation to him is not self sacrifice.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
22. I'd have made him get out of the car the second he took his mask off.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jul 2020

ETA - Be careful -- you won't be out of the woods until July 21. There is a two week incubation period.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
23. You've done more than most would do, helping this man for more than 3 years. The only thing
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jul 2020

I'd suggest is to make sure you're legally protected, by doing whatever you have to withdraw as his "representative payee."

And consider calling or emailing at least one of his siblings, to let them know that you're done.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
24. I can't even figure out if this guy legally needs a payee.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jul 2020

Sounds like he is taking all the money out and spends it any way he wants. What does he need a payee for then? Other than driving him to a bank?

Star-Thrower

(309 posts)
29. It has something to do with
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

him having a melt down where he owned a house and he was going to be evicted because of back taxes or mortgage pymts, whereupon he was on the roof and throwing bricks at the marshals that were there to empty his belongings onto the curb. He was arrested and then sent to the psych. hospital where he stayed until his mother said she would take control of him. It was mandated by a judge that she be held responsible for him.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
31. Sounds unlikely to me.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jul 2020

I would want to see that Court order before I would believe beneficiary’s story.

Consult an attorney. Do a search on avvo.com for the highest-rated social security lawyer near you. Then give that office a call.

-Laelth

dlk

(11,578 posts)
25. You did as much as you could for as long as you could
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:51 PM
Jul 2020

When circumstances change we sometimes have to change with them. Sacrificing your health & safety is too high a price to pay for being a good neighbor.

Karadeniz

(22,574 posts)
27. He pays for sex...no social distancing there...and goes to bars...ditto. You CANNOT be around
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jul 2020

This walking disaster zone. Stay away!!!❤

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