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kentuck

(111,069 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:07 PM Jul 2020

A Question: Could an Administration, up to and including the AG and the President, be charged...?

...after they were out of office? For continued obstruction of justice?

What would it require?

Or should the Democrats just forget about it and move forward, if (they) win the next election?

Do crimes cease to exist whenever the Parties in the Congress switch power? Even up to, and including, treason?

Democrats have some decisions to make.

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A Question: Could an Administration, up to and including the AG and the President, be charged...? (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2020 OP
I want Biden's inauguration speech to include a call to investigate this criminal president & admin. LonePirate Jul 2020 #1
Of course. Only the president can't be prosecuted while in office; The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #2
After the election...? kentuck Jul 2020 #5
It would be pointless as long as the GOP controls the Senate, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #6
But it would give Barr something to think about. kentuck Jul 2020 #7
It would be a ridiculous waste of time and taxpayer money. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #9
I could sponsor that. kentuck Jul 2020 #18
With a new president, Dan Jul 2020 #10
And would be. Agency heads resign as a matter of course The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #11
And in theory, Dan Jul 2020 #14
It happens at noon StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #16
I'll give him a little extra time to clean out his desk, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #17
With a new president, Barr would be gone StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #12
Yes. And I hope somebody films Barr waddling disconsolately to his car The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #15
forget it? bdamomma Jul 2020 #3
Nixons AG was jailed and he would have been too if Ford hadnt pardoned him... samnsara Jul 2020 #4
John Mitchell wasn't Nixon's AG when he committed the crimes for which The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #8
Won't happen, and probably best that one Admin doesn't go after another. HOWEVER, Hoyt Jul 2020 #13
Should this be an exception? kentuck Jul 2020 #20
Here's my take: show no mercy and take no prisoners! abqtommy Jul 2020 #19
The bottom line is that something should be done so that it will not happen again...ever pecosbob Jul 2020 #21

LonePirate

(13,412 posts)
1. I want Biden's inauguration speech to include a call to investigate this criminal president & admin.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:13 PM
Jul 2020

Put that MF on notice immediately that he will soon be in jail.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
2. Of course. Only the president can't be prosecuted while in office;
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jul 2020

all of the others could be charged even now within the statute of limitations (5 years for most federal crimes). It's just that it won't happen until Barr is gone.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
6. It would be pointless as long as the GOP controls the Senate,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:21 PM
Jul 2020

and Barr would be fired in another 2-1/2 months anyhow (until 1/20/21), so why bother?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
9. It would be a ridiculous waste of time and taxpayer money.
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

He wouldn't be removed from office by a GOP lame-duck senate after the election and he'll be gone in January anyhow. Since impeachment and conviction does nothing but remove someone from their job and he's got only 2-1/2 months left between the election and the end of Trump's term, what's the point, even if it worked, which it wouldn't? If you want him to have something to think about, figure out some crimes he can be charged with when the Trump administration is gone.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
11. And would be. Agency heads resign as a matter of course
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jul 2020

when a new administration takes over unless they are asked to stay. I would expect Barr to be gone by COB on the afternoon of 1/20/20.

Dan

(3,541 posts)
14. And in theory,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jul 2020

Biden must and should do a purge within all Departments - and sadly, the whole DOJ must be looked at and cleaned up the evil that supported Trump.

And then, once Biden has his new head of the DOJ - unleash the Dogs of War.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. With a new president, Barr would be gone
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:47 PM
Jul 2020

Unless renominated, all of the political appointees, including the cabinet secretaries, are out as of noon on January 20, 2021

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
15. Yes. And I hope somebody films Barr waddling disconsolately to his car
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jul 2020

carrying a cardboard box with his office stuff and his potted plant. While it's not likely to happen, I'd also like him to be greeted right then and there by federal marshals.

bdamomma

(63,812 posts)
3. forget it?
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jul 2020

just like how we didn't hold George Bush and Cheney for starting a war in Iraq. This was all planned and those DU'ers who in tune to these things said it began with Reagan.

These are crimes, I wish those white collars wouldn't save their asses, we have no justice for these white supremacists, but people like us get locked up. This injustice must end, we will see more protests. We need to be loud.

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
4. Nixons AG was jailed and he would have been too if Ford hadnt pardoned him...
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jul 2020

...or whatever he did....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
8. John Mitchell wasn't Nixon's AG when he committed the crimes for which
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:26 PM
Jul 2020

he was convicted; he was his 1972 re-election campaign manager and was convicted for crimes related to the Watergate coverup. And he was never pardoned. Instead, he served part of his sentence and was paroled after 19 months for medical reasons.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Won't happen, and probably best that one Admin doesn't go after another. HOWEVER,
Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:47 PM
Jul 2020

if there were ever a case where it’s deserved, this is it. So, I wouldn’t gripe.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
20. Should this be an exception?
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:25 AM
Jul 2020

Most other Administrations are not as criminal as this one, although Bush Jr was damn close.

pecosbob

(7,534 posts)
21. The bottom line is that something should be done so that it will not happen again...ever
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:36 AM
Jul 2020

This would require control of the Senate. IMO there should be checks in place to prevent Justice from going rogue...not 'norms' which Rs will ignore when convenient, but real statutory road-blocks.

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