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Good God in Butter is Trump stupid. Absentee ballots are OK but mail in ballots aren't. (Original Post) Botany Jul 2020 OP
Whatever we do.. luvs2sing Jul 2020 #1
His cult listens . .. Iliyah Jul 2020 #2
Yes. He's stupid. Laelth Jul 2020 #3
Hopefully all the Absentee Ballots will send this psycho nut job a one way ticket to Mar-A-Lago. madaboutharry Jul 2020 #4
Around here you request the absentee application fill pwb Jul 2020 #5
Here you can request your absentee ballot on-line. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #12
Absentee Ballots are what rich Republicans use to vote while they're vacationing at their second sop Jul 2020 #6
This! n/t mtngirl47 Jul 2020 #22
+1. yonder Jul 2020 #25
omfg handmade34 Jul 2020 #7
"How in hell does this man live in the White House?" Botany Jul 2020 #10
My mail-in ballot of already on order. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2020 #8
If your first sentence is a question, I assume it's rhetorical. Arkansas Granny Jul 2020 #9
trump doesn't want the ballots automatically sent out. 29 states allow no-excuse absentee voting. Hoyt Jul 2020 #11
But there's no difference as to the issue of so-called "voter fraud," The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #13
Agree, there's not much difference. But trumpsters think that if ballots are AUTOMATICALLY mailed Hoyt Jul 2020 #14
If we're lucky, the Trumpers won't vote absentee, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #26
Let's hope. Hoyt Jul 2020 #30
It's not just duplicate ballots they check for. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #33
I guess you submit your absentee ballot via ESP. Vinca Jul 2020 #15
Well if anybody knows "rigged" elections.. abakan Jul 2020 #16
Well, hey, it's not like he's a Mensa member or anything...... lastlib Jul 2020 #17
You had me at FM123 Jul 2020 #18
It was that or "for the of dog" Botany Jul 2020 #28
Yes, I think I will.... FM123 Jul 2020 #31
Should have read, "For the love of dog." Botany Jul 2020 #32
I don't think it's a matter of stupidity. He knows exactly what he is doing. totodeinhere Jul 2020 #19
Yes, he is exactly that stupid Warpy Jul 2020 #20
Good catch on the "voting privelege"usage. yonder Jul 2020 #27
He can't understand what he is saying duforsure Jul 2020 #21
In Michigan, a vote by mail IS an absentee ballot. roamer65 Jul 2020 #23
How... how... how does he think absentee ballots get to the ballot box? krispos42 Jul 2020 #24
Wait, so people should get absentee ballots & not mail them in? CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #29

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. Yes. He's stupid.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 AM
Jul 2020

He lies to cover it up, but, at this point, the majority of Americans doesn’t believe a word he says.

-Laelth

madaboutharry

(40,243 posts)
4. Hopefully all the Absentee Ballots will send this psycho nut job a one way ticket to Mar-A-Lago.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 AM
Jul 2020

Me until November:

pwb

(11,295 posts)
5. Around here you request the absentee application fill
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jul 2020

it out and return it to the county. They verify your request and mail you a Absentee election ballot. You vote and mail it back. Not an easy process but doable.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,928 posts)
12. Here you can request your absentee ballot on-line.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jul 2020

Fill out the application on-line, you get the ballot in the mail about a week later. The process was very easy.

sop

(10,274 posts)
6. Absentee Ballots are what rich Republicans use to vote while they're vacationing at their second
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jul 2020

or third homes. Mail-in ballots are what Democrats use while they're stuck at home, quarantined, unemployed and broke, trying to stay alive after Trump totally fucked up both the pandemic response and the economy, attempting to cast a vote despite all the GOP's suppression schemes.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,764 posts)
8. My mail-in ballot of already on order.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jul 2020


I'm in Cook, County, IL, home to Chicago and it's near-in suburbs. The county election board helpfully sent out their email on applying early this year. Usually, it comes in late September.

Arkansas Granny

(31,538 posts)
9. If your first sentence is a question, I assume it's rhetorical.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jul 2020

The answer is that he's stupid enough to think we're that stupid.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. trump doesn't want the ballots automatically sent out. 29 states allow no-excuse absentee voting.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jul 2020

But, you have to request a ballot -- at least in normal time. Some states did automatically mail out ballots during primaries this Spring.

Another 5 states vote by mail all the time.

So, 34 states pretty much allow voting by mail if voters want to. By November, some other states will likely include Covid19 as a valid excuse for absentee voting.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,928 posts)
13. But there's no difference as to the issue of so-called "voter fraud,"
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jul 2020

a thing that's almost nonexistent anyway (except when a GOP postal worker changes the party on people's applications from D to R), whether the state automatically sends a ballot or you have to request one. If your state doesn't send you a ballot automatically you request it, and whoever processes the request checks it against your registration and sends you your ballot. You fill it out and mail it back. Somebody checks it against a voter list to be sure it went to the right place and wasn't duplicated, et voila. I don't get where the alleged fraud would occur in either instance.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Agree, there's not much difference. But trumpsters think that if ballots are AUTOMATICALLY mailed
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jul 2020

out, it might go to someone else -- the voter it was intended for has moved or Democrats steal them (because GOPers are the only honest people in this world, in their mind). GOPers believe "these people" would vote for a Democrats, because GOPers would never cheat. That's absolute nonsense, of course -- as you point out, the GOPer mailman -- but it's what they believe.

I agree it is easy to check for duplicate ballots, etc. But GOPers don't believe that. They think "cheating Democrats" are going to game the system. Again, absolute nonsense.

One thing I do think could be a problem, although not a big one --

Let's just say I get your ballot and mark it for trump and send it in. You don't receive your automatic ballot, so you request another one, and send it in voting for the Democrat. Now, the county election officials have two ballots from the same person. If it's only a few, they can figure it out and maybe even go after the fraudster. But, if it happened a bunch -- as GOPers fear, because we are all crooks in their mind -- it would be a nightmare untangling in a close election.

In any event, I encourage everyone I know to vote by mail since my rube state allows no-excuse absentee voting, for some reason, and has almost 30 days of early voting. There is not excuse not to vote here. trump will continue of blow smoke and fan ignorant white wing beliefs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,928 posts)
26. If we're lucky, the Trumpers won't vote absentee,
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jul 2020

and if the covid crud is still out there in November (and it probably will be), maybe they'll be too scared to vote in person. By then maybe they'll have figured out that it's real.

Ms. Toad

(34,119 posts)
33. It's not just duplicate ballots they check for.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jul 2020

In each case, there is a ballot verification process that requires information generally only know to the voter (driver's license number, partial social security number, date of birth, etc), and there is a signature that has to reasonably match the voter registration card on file.

And that happens whether ballots are automatically sent out OR requested.

lastlib

(23,354 posts)
17. Well, hey, it's not like he's a Mensa member or anything......
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jul 2020

He might outsmart a bag of rutabagas on a good day, but that'd be his best.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
19. I don't think it's a matter of stupidity. He knows exactly what he is doing.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jul 2020

It's all about trying everything he can to enable voter suppression. He knows that low turnout elections generally favor Republicans. So he will do everything he can to suppress the votes of people of color and other likely Democratic voters.

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
20. Yes, he is exactly that stupid
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jul 2020

He thinks they're different because in some states, absentee ballots have to be justified by things like military service overseas while in others, they're no questions asked (he hates that) and Oregon is vote by mail (which he thinks is Satanic).

His use of the words "voting privilege" is also telling. No, you sack of bile sodden adipose tissue, it's a duty, and anything that allows people to discharge that duty is a good thing.

Voting by mail in Oregon will have been in place for 40 years next year. Some districts even elect Republicans, but this is not something he knows. He just knows that unless the "privilege" can be restricted to white, male Republicans, they'll lose elections, and that's robbery.

Expect more of this horseshit. He's a malignant narcissist. They can't lose through any fault of their own, other people have to cheat them out of it. They know this because cheating is how they get through their own lives.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
21. He can't understand what he is saying
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

Trumps been bouncing reality checks for years , and his pre-dementia keeps getting exposed with his decline.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
23. In Michigan, a vote by mail IS an absentee ballot.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jul 2020

Question is who’s dumber...Dotard or his cultists.


krispos42

(49,445 posts)
24. How... how... how does he think absentee ballots get to the ballot box?
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jul 2020

Oh, wait, I forgot. He knows exactly how it gets to the ballot box but is betting that his base is to fucking stupid to figure it out.

And it's probably a safe bet!

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