Question for legal experts

[diva77]

Is it possible to sue DJT for endangering the Secret Service due to forbidding them to wear masks?

[mucifer]

1. then there could be lawsuits against a third of the country that would be insane.

[diva77]

2. I was thinking the SS might be a special situation since taxpayers pay for them to protect

the president

[bluedye33139]

3. I am not a lawyer (and I refuse to use the acronym)

But I think that establishing standing would be difficult. I, for instance, do not have standing to bring the suit.

[Karadeniz]

4. Not a legal expert, but thought I'd pile onto your question! What sort of crimes against humanity or

Incompetence/negligence can Trump be charged with for not responding to a pandemic, lying about the situation (it'll evaporate, anyone can get a test, shutting down all ways Covid could enter). Lies, lies, lies. Govs in competition for supplies with fed...sending our needed supplies overseas.

[diva77]

7. pile on!

[42bambi]

13. Willful neglect ... I would think that covers what Trump does in broad daylight. nt

[ProfessorGAC]

5. Doubtful

Workplace regulations involve taking measures to avoid an unsafe workplace.
People paid to take a bullet to protect a president have accepted an inherently unsafe job.
I know it's not a fair comparison, but it seems like it would be hard to establish unsafe work conditions in court.
Could they sue? Sure! Anybody can sue anybody else over any perceived slight.
Seems like it would be tough to win, though.
I'm a scientist, not a lawyer.
Just my opinion.

[diva77]

6. But DJT knowingly places the SS in danger by forbidding the masks. Being asked to take a bullet

assumes a situation where the president does not knowingly create that circumstance (at least, i would think so).

[ProfessorGAC]

14. I Don't Disagree, In Concept

But remember, in a civil suit the plaintiff has to prove the case. Convincing the jury that an inherently threatening to life job isn't already inherently dangerous.
A really good litigator might be able to convince a jury, but would be one terrific lawyer, IMO.

[customerserviceguy]

10. That makes sense

If you sign up for a job as a bodyguard, it's pretty hard to convince someone that you should have your employer minimize your risks.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. No.

In Nixon v. Fitzgerald, the Supreme Court held that presidents are immune from civil lawsuits arising from actions taken in their capacity as president.

[diva77]

9. dang! oh well. thanks for weighing in.

[diva77]

11. Does that mean that a president can order SS to not wear bullet-proof vests?

[RiF]

12. OSHA?

Maybe

[la-trucker]

15. Only the SS has standing

People not directly or indirectly damaged by a tortuous conduct have no standing to sue.