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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:19 PM

Actually, the Supreme Court Just Gave Congress a Big Win


Trump might have won a short-term political battle. But Congressí subpoena power is clearer than it ever was.

In the immediate aftermath of Thursdayís Supreme Court rulings on who has the right to access the presidentís financial records, numerous commentators cast the decisions as a ďsplitĒ that gave prosecutors a clear win but thwarted Congressís ability to obtain Trumpís financial records. But while Trump might have won a short-term political battle by effectively managing to keep his records hidden until after the November election, there should be no confusion about who won on Thursday.

The 7-2 majority rejected Trumpís claim of absolute immunity for himself, his businesses and his children from state grand jury subpoenas and subpoenas from three congressional committees. Yes, the court did not give Congress the immediate and largely unconditional win that it handed prosecutors in New York. But that scorecard misses the bigger picture. Indeed, in some respects, Congress emerged with more clarity about its oversight powers, and how to enforce them, than it had before the Supreme Court weighed in.

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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/11/actually-the-supreme-court-just-gave-congress-a-big-win-356274



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Reply Actually, the Supreme Court Just Gave Congress a Big Win (Original post)
Dem2 Jul 2020 OP
Nevilledog Jul 2020 #1
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #2
Nevilledog Jul 2020 #3
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #4
Nevilledog Jul 2020 #6
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #7
Nevilledog Jul 2020 #8
malaise Jul 2020 #13
lastlib Jul 2020 #11
Nevilledog Jul 2020 #12
StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #5
DarthDem Jul 2020 #14
DarthDem Jul 2020 #9
Dem2 Jul 2020 #10

Response to Dem2 (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:24 PM

1. They need to subpoena Barr now!

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:26 PM

2. He is "scheduled" to testify at the end of this month

But I think Rep. Nadler should ensure that testimony with a subpoena.

Without one, Barr will have some kind of a conflict and cancel.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:27 PM

3. I predict he won't show up even if he is subpoenaed.

I'd even be willing to wager some money on that.

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:34 PM

4. You are probably right

They have gotten away with this so far, so why change the plan.

I wish the House had some way to compel testimony, but apparently they don't.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:39 PM

6. They can arrest and jail, but will they?

Probably not.

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:42 PM

7. I don't think Rep. Nadler has it in him. nt

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:45 PM

8. Maybe we'll both be surprised and they take the SCOTUS decisions to heart.

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:54 PM

13. The house can cut off his money

I dare him to refuse to show up

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:01 PM

11. Hell, they need to subpoena the whole f*cking executive branch!

All of 'em--every electronic gizmo capable of data storage, every bleepin' scrap of paper this crime ring has produced, every e-mail, phone log, and every last creature with a pulse--need to be under an order to stay secure until January 21, 2021!

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Response to lastlib (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:03 PM

12. Think of the trees!

Do you know how much fucking paper that would take? LOL

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Response to Dem2 (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:36 PM

5. Exactly

 

Thank you for saying this. Only Democrats can turn two huge wins into excuses for whining that "Trump won!"

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 09:15 PM

14. Soooooo true

Exactly!!!!

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Response to Dem2 (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:54 PM

9. Yes

Media reportage of legal matters is always atrocious but it's highly ironic that Politico issued the correct analysis.

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Response to DarthDem (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:59 PM

10. I thought that as well

I generally avoid Politico like the plague.

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