Ghislaine Maxwell 'has tapes of two prominent US politicians having sex with minors' and boasted of

[soothsayer]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8512103/Ghislaine-Maxwell-tapes-two-prominent-politicians-having-sex-minors.html

Ghislaine Maxwell 'has tapes of two prominent US politicians having sex with minors' and boasted of 'owning' powerful people, former friend and jewel thief claims

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The ex-jewel robber, who used the pseudonym William Steel, said they 'forced' him to watch the footage as they wanted to convince him of their 'power'....

He added: 'I saw videos of very powerful people - celebrities, world figures - in those videos having sex, threesomes, even orgies with minors.'

The former friend also referred to two 'high-profile' American politicians who were in videos with minors.

[a kennedy]

1. Damn.........

high profile American politicians indeed.......I wonder who they might be.

[brush]

6. trump is my top guess. I hope upon hope the other one isn't BC.

[Sanity Claws]

10. I have to agree that Trump must be one of them

That would explain Barr's interest in the Epstein matter.

[3Hotdogs]

24. Carlos Danger?

[Sanity Claws]

31. That is an interesting possibility

His reputation is already ruined so it wouldn't matter if he is implicated.

[Blue_true]

60. He flashed to young women, but all of them, if I remember correctly were of legal

age.

[certainot]

47. limbaugh is right there in palm beach with trump and he would be a long term asset long

before trump showed up

that would be very very valuable to putin

[BComplex]

95. During the bush Jr. years, Limbaugh was caught in either Haiti or Dominican Republic

with little boys.

[Metro135]

68. And quite possibly --

Prince Andrew

[Kablooie]

59. But if it's Trump and the video is released it won't affect his election chances at all.

Republicans will tut tut and then forget about it.

[Tribetime]

73. I think it will destroy him 😃

[BComplex]

92. It will destroy the republicans that enabled him.

[BlueIdaho]

82. Trump naked could possible disgust followers.

I’ll bet he’s nowhere near as cute as the baby trump blimp.

[Oppaloopa]

67. Yes but I bet it is.

[brush]

2. Uh-oh. She's either dead soon or released if she's got those receipts.

And if they suicide her, whoever has the receipts better watch out too.

[Baitball Blogger]

20. What is really hard to absorb, is that these people will continue in their positions

until the day they get unmasked. Then, they'll suddenly step down and I'll wonder, why couldn't we have done this sooner?

[brush]

29. They have all the power right now, which is why Barr fired Berman...

now after over a year following Epstein's death to get this Maxwell woman in custody and under his control. It's been reported that her and her attorney have been in contact with authorities since Epstein was jailed so why the hurry now?

It's dawned on them that trump is gonna lose and they won't be in charge in the WH or the DOJ which controls the SDNY. They have to get her out of the way fast or it will come out that rump has participated in who knows what depravity in Epstein's parties.

And if he just happens to win, they still want this matter taken care of.

[Eyeball_Kid]

49. My guess is that, when the FBI approached her,

they told her that her life was at grave risk, and she’d be better off if she co-operates rather than tethered to nothing and vulnerable on all sides.

[Lars39]

3. Raping minors, not sex. Raping minors

[chowder66]

4. +1

[WhiskeyGrinder]

21. Yes. Raping kids.

[flying_wahini]

41. Thank you. Raping children.

[paleotn]

53. Thank you!

[roamer65]

84. Yes, statutory rape.

[Zambero]

5. Wonder if these two might be golfing partners?

[brush]

9. Lindsay doesn't swing that way.

[Merlot]

37. "having sex with minors" is a possibility for anyone.

[brush]

39. The minors in question were females. Need I say more?

[shanti]

55. What about Kevin Spacey?

He was friends with Maxwell and flew on the Lolita express too.

I doubt it was just girls, but the majority were.

[empedocles]

43. 'Oooh'

[BComplex]

97. There were boys involved, too. The girls are the only ones reported on so far.

The SDNY had a whole lot of dirt that never could come out. Epstein was mostly into girls, but he trafficked to those who were also into boys.

For some inexplicable reason, they find it more horrific if people do little boys than if they do little girls.

[brush]

99. God! It just gets worse and worse.

[rufus dog]

7. OK, Lindsey Graham, but who is the 2nd?

Gym Jordan?

[leftieNanner]

11. Don't think Gym has that kind of money

Epstein only "trafficked" with the super rich.

[Sanity Claws]

12. Lindsay is into boys

Did Epstein and Maxwell procure boys? They may have but I keep hearing about female victims.

[FreeState]

33. He's not into boys

Gay does not equal pedophile.

[Sanity Claws]

34. Agreed

I guess I wanted to say that he wouldn't be interested in girls. If he was involved in this sordid episode, it wouldn't be with girls.

[bringthePaine]

42. very true, but does not preclude the possibility either

[FreeState]

50. No but it makes it much less likely

The vast majority of pedophiles that abuse boys are married heterosexual men.

[brush]

65. Oh, please! Seems everyone knows that but you.

[JI7]

62. Graham is into other men, not underage boys

[Sanity Claws]

8. Any guesses?

Who would be that pervy?

[Goodheart]

13. Name names or STFU

[Budi]

15. Yes. Name them.

[Downtown Hound]

25. Ditto.

Enough of this vague, cryptic horseshit.

[GeorgeGist]

51. +100

[smirkymonkey]

90. +1000

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Putin may have copies. . . . nt

[FakeNoose]

78. Yep I'm thinking the same

Epstein might have been secretly funneling info (and videos or tapes) to Pootie once in a while. We've seen rumors of this in the past few years. It would explain how Jeffy-boy got his hands on so much secret cash that was unaccounted for on tax returns and P&L statements.

[Baitball Blogger]

16. Well, Netflix, Hulu and the other streaming offerings are slim these days,

so, I'm ready to be appalled. Bracing for shock and horror.

[happybird]

17. It's from the Daily Mail

Not a reliable source

[soothsayer]

28. Not sure an ex jewel thief is a reliable source either

Still, if it makes them squirm I’m happy.

[Midnight Writer]

58. Another "Steel" dossier? Unreliable rag printing alleged accusations of a jewel thief?

I am a conspiracy nut, and not even I get excited by this report.

I'm still waiting to hear a list of clients of the DC Madame.

[onenote]

18. I smell a publicity whore -- give names or shut up.

[sop]

19. After what happened to Jeffrey, I suspect Ghislaine took certain precautions to ensure her safety.

She's not just Epstein's sleazy ex-girlfriend/procurer of underage girls, Ghislaine Maxwell's family history makes for some very interesting reading:

https://www.businessinsider.com/ghislaine-maxwell-father-epstein-family-history-yacht-images-2019-8

[empedocles]

44. Ghislaine's career suggests Ghislaine's got game. Deep mysteries.

[TheBlackAdder]

22. She'd better stay away from any building higher than two stories tall.

[Downtown Hound]

23. Reminds me of Tom Arnold constantly saying he had

tapes of Trump saying racist things. Nothing ever came of it.

Name names or shut up. Enough of this teasing shit.

[Budi]

26. Well the owner of GOYA married a staffer/assistant of Epstein-Maxwell

Maybe why his sudden adoration of Trump. 🤢
This is a bit curious
-----------------

Info on Michelle Campos is oddly scant. Except for findings of Staff/Assistant

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[njhoneybadger]

40. Very interesting

[empedocles]

46. Investigate immediately

[enid602]

27. unfaltering loyalty.

I'm thinking Bill Barr. Might explain his loyalty.

[colorado_ufo]

48. I think Barr is just slavishly devoted.

Over religious, subservient personality, wants to support the "ruler."

I'm thinking Dershowitz, maybe Prince Andrew, maybe Trump. Could be any number of men who have left the Trump circle before now. Maybe Giuliani?

[enid602]

52. Bill Barr

You might be right. A modern day Torquemada.

[First Speaker]

30. If this is true, those assholes need to be burned...

...I truly don't care who they are, or what party they're in. Let the chips fall where they may. This sort of shit has been winked at too long.

[Sanity Claws]

32. Could Eliot Spitzer be one of them?

He was the NY governor who resigned after it was revealed he used to visit high-priced call girls.

[dhol82]

45. Elliot Spitzer was destroyed by Roger Stone

Spitzer was busy taking down too many of the Wall Street upper class.

[JI7]

63. unlikely, Spitzer paid for sex from adult women .

[keithbvadu2]

35. Even videos can be photoshopped now, not just pictures.

Even videos can be photoshopped now, not just pictures.

[Alpeduez21]

36. This is sick

Fuck you Gizzy. Children were raped and you brag about ‘owning’ people? Rot in hell you cretinous leech

[Kid Berwyn]

88. Blackmail

Those who want to control a politician’s behavior run honey traps.

Remember how former Sen. David Vitter was outed as a poopy Pampers wearer during sex?

The DC Madame threatened to publish other names from her black book then she died by suicide.

So it’s no surprise that AG Barr’s dad — intel background — hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach at elite NYC prep school.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-epstein-barr-problem-of-new-york-citys-dalton-school/

It’s not just a small world. It also is very, very bad.

[HotTeaBag]

38. Tom Hanks has GOT to be one of the celebrities.

No one is that perfect.

[Chemisse]

69. Nooo! Don't burst the bubble! n/t

[Raine]

54. I doubt those names will ever be revealed to the public. 🙄 nt

[StarfishSaver]

56. I tend to be skeptical of people claiming to have "seen" these kinds of videos and other evidence

First, people who have this kind of evidence usually don't go around showing it to random people. And second, if they do, they didn't just happen to show it to one person. Other people have seen it and, if that's the case, it's hard to keep these things a secret. And showing them around substantially reduces the value of them as blackmail tools.

They also don't show their hands to "jewel thieves" with big mouths.

I just don't think Maxwell is that reckless and indiscreet. She is likely much more careful than this.

But I could be wrong. We'll see.

[Major Nikon]

64. A "jewel thief"

In other words a career criminal. Sounds a lot like bullshit. Just because lots of people desperately want things like this to be true, doesn't mean they are true.

All stories like this do is feed red meat to conspiracy theory idiots like Q Anon who will then fill in the blanks with even more bullshit.

Everyone should be skeptical of anything the Daily Mail prints. They are one notch above the National Enquirer, if that.

[StarfishSaver]

66. A "jewel thief" with a big mouth

[Drunken Irishman]

77. Right. These two spent decades getting away with their crimes.

Clearly they're not that sloppy as to display tapes to random fools. I'm calling bunk.

[Kablooie]

57. They will never see the light of day unless the subjects are Democratic politicians.

Any other tapes will be destroyed or already have been.

[FakeNoose]

79. Maybe ... but who's going to destroy Pootie's copy?

Don't assume there's only one copy of any video, especially where Epstein is concerned.

[doc03]

61. She won't be with us long nt

[Kablooie]

80. You would think she'd arrange for videos to be sent to the media if something happens to her.

That seems obvious but it certainly wasn't how Epstein set things up.
Maybe the powers that be found all the videos and had them destroyed which is why they can arrest her now.

[womanofthehills]

83. One article mentions that a friend of hers has copies

[Ms. Toad]

70. As my friends who live in the UK remind anyone who posts from the Daily Mail in their FB feeds -

the Daily Mail is the equivalent of the National Enquirer.

[soothsayer]

71. But the ex jewel thief is sure to be an excellent source

They’re the first ones I’d turn to

[Ms. Toad]

72. If we expect truth to mean anything, we need the facts

before spreading rumors just because they confirm our biases.

[soothsayer]

74. Well we know he had cameras

Or... it’s alleged he did at least

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-accuser-maria-farmer-says-his-house-under-constant-tv-surveillance/

Jeffrey Epstein accuser says his house had cameras "monitoring private moments"

[Ms. Toad]

75. Which is a bit different than specific allegations about what was caught by those cameras,

or possession of the tapes by Maxwell.

[soothsayer]

76. True dat

[Ahpook]

81. Who gives a shit

Name them or shut up.

[roamer65]

85. Franklin Savings and Loan scandal, part II.

[BComplex]

100. That's what I've been saying, roamer. People have short memories.

The Franklin Savings scandal was very well documented, and very strongly shut up.

[roamer65]

103. Yes it was.

That sex scandal reached very high up into the Repuke party circa 1990.

[Faux pas]

86. In my humble opinion,

if you've been on the plane, you're a member of the 'club'.

[greenjar_01]

87. Counterpoint

No, she doesn't.

[BComplex]

89. I've been telling DUers this for the entire time. Those kids going missing from cages at the border

are being trafficked by the trump cronies and the republicans.

Republicans have been pedophiles for generations. We knew GHW Bush had little boys...ORPHANS.. at some of their parties to pass around.

There may be a few right wing democrats involved, but for the most part, it's part of the republican party to do kids. Boys AND girls; not just girls, like the Epstein videos showcase.

[Vinca]

93. I never heard any of that stuff, especially about GHWB. Sounds too pizza parlor pedophile ring to be

taken seriously. While I don't doubt some of it might go on among them, it probably goes on among all kinds of sick shits in our society. If the jewel thief has the names, he ought to give them up.

[BComplex]

94. Link to a book below. I remember when it happened, and it was in the newspapers.

https://www.amazon.com/review/R1M0LRJ9D167D

There has been, through the years, more and more come out about republicans going on group outings and "team builders" to photograph and get dirt on each other to keep each other in line.

[Iggo]

96. We know no such thing.

[BComplex]

91. There's this:

"Steel told The Sun: 'They wanted to convince me of their power and who they held in their grip. They boasted about 'owning' powerful people.' "

That's why the entire republican party will not convict trump of anything, and why Putin has trump where he wants him: it's not just about money. It's about showing films of these guys with children. About showing these "powerful" people raping children. That's what bullies get off on.

[Mike 03]

101. Please be cautious about getting excited here. The only two U.S. politicians I've seen named

in the unsealed documents are named in this article:

“SHE WAS SHAKING UNCONTROLLABLY”: POWERFUL MEN, DISTURBING NEW DETAILS IN UNSEALED JEFFREY EPSTEIN DOCUMENTS
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/new-details-in-unsealed-jeffrey-epstein-documents

I'm not saying there isn't something explosive coming we don't know about--I'm just going by the unsealed Epstein documents. Some international politicians have also been named. Names are out there, you just have to dig a little bit.

But naturally I hope there's something more than has come to light that can really help us and shake up November 2020.

I'm worried about the Maxwell claim, because it is consistent with what has been released in the Epstein document dump last year. In other words, if these videos exist, I don't think it's the people we'd like it to be. That being the case, I actually hope that the tapes do not exist, and if you read the article above, you'll see why.

EDIT: And P.S., I am NOT talking about Bill Clinton. I've read everything in that dump and from what I can discern he never engaged in these activities. He did fly on the plane, but it was to travel somewhere. (My opinion, but based on reading a lot of documents.)

[Iggo]

102. That story sounds like a lot of bullshit.

The fucking of children happened. Tapes may exist.

But there's absolutely no reason to believe anything the guy in the article claims.

Former friend.
Ex-jewel thief. (Who cares?)
Fake name.
Forced by his friend to watch child rape videos. (Helluva way to treat your friends.)

That's a ton of shit I'm just supposed to take on faith.