We can't stand them either.

[yardwork]

As I watch instance after instance of obnoxious white women calling the police on black people who are simply minding their own business, I recognize a familiarity.

These are the same mean girls I couldn't stand in middle school. They're the same entitled prissy white women who lived on my dorm floor in college (and got the nice black custodian reassigned just because... yeah, we recognized that you were a stuck-up racist way back then).

They're the same pushy bleach-blonde moms who complained endlessly about the teachers at our kids' schools - and always signed up to be a chaperone on the band trips because it fed their Little Hitler complexes. Guess what. My kids couldn't stand you either. The band director couldn't stand you, the principal couldn't stand you, and the rest of us parents tolerated you just to be polite.

And you're the woman I tried to be friends with in my neighborhood when our kids were toddlers because my son liked your son, but the way you whispered "black people" and referred to "those people" meant that it was always going to be impossible for us to be friends.

I didn't realize that you were walking through life harassing black people - although the incident with the custodian in college should have been a big clue - but now that I know, I'm not surprised.

And I recognize that it's up to me and every other white person to start calling you out on your racism. I regret not having done more in the past. The time for polite assumptions of good will is over. Now I see what you do when you think the country club set isn't watching you.

[Ohiogal]

1. I can't agree with this more.

[yardwork]

2. Thank you!

I'm from Ohio originally!

[MontanaMama]

3. Kick.

True story.

[yardwork]

4. Thanks. Every word is true.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Same people who make life hell in neighborhoods with a HOA.

Bossy, entitled, officious people (and they aren't all Karens; some are Brads) who feel the need, and think they have the right, to police everybody else's behavior all the time, whether it harms them or anyone else. They demand to see the manager, they want to know if you have a permit, they complain to the city about your (legal) landscaping, they're the asshole waving the rule book in every volunteer organization, PTA, church group, or neighborhood association. They're Frank Burns. They've been around forever. And when they turn racist they're a genuine menace. We can only hope that the ubiquity of cell phone cameras and the likelihood that their assholery will be blasted all over the internet might cause at least some of them to think twice about their behavior.

[yardwork]

7. They're Frank Burns! So true.

But now we know that they're literally trying to get black people killed.

[volstork]

49. "Frank Burns" is a perfect reference!

They are always the one who are absolute sticklers for the rules for everyone else, but are just fine with bending or even breaking rules that might apply to themselves.

They are hateful, petty, small, and puerile. They are also miserable.

Unfortunately, they take their misery out on others, and that's when they become dangerous.

[tavernier]

72. My grandson Brad just said

ocelots are all racists. Wanted me to pass that on to you.

[hlthe2b]

6. Yes.. and those "mean girls" cut their eye teeth tormenting other (typically)white girls early on...

and used to congregate at shopping malls where they would ridicule old people, "fat" people, disabled people, poor people, supposedly unattractive people--before "graduating" to full-blown racist tirades... For while their blatant racism is what has brought their ugly behavior to the attention of the public, it is only the culmination of atrocious attitudes and self-entitled behavior.


Most of us know them and were forced to deal with them; are unsurprised, but appalled at them. May their karma finally come home to roost.

[yardwork]

8. The behavior of cowards, now being exposed on cell phones.

[SWBTATTReg]

9. Well said, yardwork. You nailed the description of these ...

repulsive people to a 'T'.

[yardwork]

20. Thank you!

[luvs2sing]

10. You're the woman my mother kicked out of the house..

for asking why on earth she let her daughter (me) play with those hillbilly kids and those half-breed (Japanese-American) kids.

[yardwork]

21. Good for your mom!

[luvs2sing]

27. Very much ahead of her time.

This was in 1966.

[yardwork]

28. To throw the woman out - that was brave.

[luvs2sing]

38. It was crazy.

I was nine years old, sitting at the kitchen table eating lunch. I knew the Karen down the street was in the living room with Mom when I hear her say, “Don’t you EVER talk that way about those children again! You get the hell out of here NOW.” She later told me what happened. My mom..little bitty quiet woman who usually had zero fucks to give.

[yardwork]

41. Wow! Your mom was a hero.

[volstork]

50. It's the little bitty quiet ones

who usually DO have zero fucks to give.

Good for your mom!

[brush]

59. What a great mom you were blessed with. And thanks for sharing.

[wnylib]

75. In my case, it was my father who kicked

out a Chad, not a Karen. The Chad was his sister's son. Cousin Chad was 20. I was 10. He had stopped by to ask my father for a job reference. There was a recession at the time and he started using stereotyped slurs about Jews and the economy to blame them for being out of work. My father got very still, and I thought "uh-oh."

Very softly dad said, "We don't talk like that here. Is that what you think of Anna?" She was the Jewish woman that my widower grandfather was dating.. Cousin Chad was slow on the uptake. He said, "No, but come on, Uncle Lib. You know it's true about most of the (slur)." Dad said "We don't use that language here and how dare you expose my children to it? You know where the door is. Don't come back until you have an attitude change."

Poof! "And forget the reference. I wouldn't attach my name to your mouth."

[txwhitedove]

76. Sadly, my granny was the woman. After my summer day at the local pool, she snapped

"You look like a damn little Mexican!". At age 9, I thought hmm she doesn't curse and what's wrong with looking like a Mexican. It was her house and she raised me. I got stories, but just know as much fun as granny was, she failed to make me a proper lady or to be racist.

[pnwest]

11. Pretty insightful. Applying that filter

to the “mean girls” (and boys) I went to school with...yup, that’s them! The entitled bratty rich kid clique. Jocks and cheerleaders, there was also the “horsey girls” bunch, and the parents who bought their ugly, talentless kids the lead in the school plays and musicals, and first chair in band.

[yardwork]

35. The Brett Kavanaughs.

[ms liberty]

12. Yes, this is exactly who they are. n/t

[yardwork]

34. Thank you.

[UpInArms]

13. I enjoy giving racists a personal in your face shut-up-ing

and have been doing so for many years ...

it doesn’t matter where ...

Anytime I hear that crap, I stand up ... get in that person’s zone and ask them for their birth application... that blank look follows ... my next question is ...

Just tell me where you signed up to get to be white ...

Generally, much spluttering and stuttering... and then ...

Silence

[yardwork]

22. I realize that I need to do more.

The entire racist structure needs to be dismantled. It's not enough to simply call them out. I want to redistribute their wealth.

A quarter of the children in the United States now live in poverty. Many of them are children of color. The entire structure needs to be replaced.

[volstork]

51. Amen!

Thank you for a wonderful thread!

[dalton99a]

23. +1

[luvtheGWN]

74. YES!!!

[PatrickforO]

14. Yeah, plenty of snotty people, and racism fits right into snobbery.

It is up to all of us to challenge it when we see it.

[yardwork]

30. And to dismantle the unfair systems and institutions that perpetuate this.

[NoMoreRepugs]

15. Civility is a thing of the past. You want a better future

for your kids and grandchildren? Recognize this is a fuckin’ war and only one side can win.

[yardwork]

24. This is war. It is!

[DENVERPOPS]

16. Perfect. Very well said.

I loathe the female and male species of this ilk.........

Some of the commentary replies are great also!!!!!!!!!!!

[yardwork]

25. I love all the replies!

[RainCaster]

17. I have a huge amount of that in my community- just replace "black" with "native"

Same shit, different tune

[yardwork]

33. They're everywhere. Time to call them out.

[ThoughtCriminal]

18. The "Common Scold"

That annoying disease that seems to be so infectious for those who have a life of privilege. Less common for others because this behaviour would get you fired or killed.

[yardwork]

26. Exactly. Throwing their privilege around.

[Mopar151]

70. With you on that!

It's their (really f'n dumb) assumption that the "authourities" have a primary obligation to protect THEM. They grow up as Mommy's Girl, or the Bossy Sister, and they are dead certain that they are RIGHT. They have rarely experienced consequeces in any proportion to the depravity and malice they dispense.

[kimbutgar]

19. Yes I knew them also

They smile in your face then 5 minutes later talking about you in the workplace.

[yardwork]

32. Oh yes! The workplace.

Goddess knows what kind of damage they're causing to people's lives.

[yardwork]

31. + millions of us. Stand up.

[Iggo]

37. I've been in those rooms.

I'm half-white and I look white.

I think there's a dent from how many times I've had to bite my tongue. Not all the time, but definitely over half.

Sometimes it's better to just observe and report.

[yardwork]

40. The best revenge is to dismantle the system that gives them power.

I seriously want to redistribute their wealth.

[Iggo]

43. Fuckin' A.

[qwlauren35]

60. I feel you.

I bit my tongue ONCE. Never have I felt so ill in what was thought to be all white space.

Keep in mind that in looking white, you have tremendous power to stick up for others, without revealing your heritage if that's what you want to do. When YOU say "I don't want to hear it", white people have to think twice about what they say around other white people. And that is a challenge for them.

I have chosen to reveal my heritage at EVERY opportunity. I don't like anyone thinking that I'm white and therefore thinking they are in 100% white space, and going bat-shit racist because they think it's safe. I just don't want to hear it - stay in the closet.

[Iggo]

64. I say something where it'll make a difference.

Sometimes it's a snide remark on the way out the door. ("I'm not as white as you think i am." *Wink*)

Sometimes it's later, when I've got the attention of a mixed group of kids. ("Gather 'round and let me tell you what came up at the recent imptomptu white-guy meeting." )

Irredeemable racists are irredeemable, and I'm not gonna butt my head against that wall anymore. Unless there's an audience.

[qwlauren35]

68. Everybody makes their own choices.

I respect yours. Butting your head hurts. Teachable moments may be elsewhere.

[dalton99a]

36. Manipulative, conniving, vicious, malevolent

I have more respect for toothless hillbillies

[yardwork]

39. They have the whole system behind them and they know it.

They KNOW what happens when a white woman calls the police on a black man. That's why they do it. They can pretend to be all sweetie-pie, but they're causing violence.

They bring death.

[dalton99a]

48. That is the worst part. They know everything is historically, systematically, reflexively stacked in

their favor. It is truly vile and insidious.

[calimary]

42. Happily making the rest of us look bad.

Being utterly oblivious and willfully blind must have its benefits somewhere, I guess...

[yardwork]

44. They have a whole system of institutional racism to defend.

This behavior isn't random. It's calculated.

[ProfessorGAC]

45. Excellent! (nt)

[yardwork]

46. Thank you.

[EveDibb]

47. Call them out!

I grew up in the South and I started calling out people when I was 17. Let's just say I'm now older than 17. When they would use the n-word I'd put my finger in their face and say don't use that word around me. Made them think twice before they said it again.

I live in Ohio now and since everybody thinks Southerners are racist I'm getting a sign and I'm putting it in my front yard that says I didn't leave the South to be surrounded by a racist Yankees.

And if I hear our statues one more time when that is my heritage and there was a statue removed in my hometown I am going to lose it.

[volstork]

53. Welcome to DU, Eve!

I'm from the South, too, and stand with you!

[EveDibb]

57. Thank you for the welcome

I'm glad some people still believe you can make people aware but because of my history of seeing the Klan march through my downtown and having a klan member tell me yes you should kill black babies my strategy has always been to marginalize them. Logic will not work.

When Trump was elected my son told me Mom you'll be okay. I was in a restaurant I burst out in tears and I said I'm not worried about me I'm worried about the black people who were in the restaurant and when Heather Heyer was killed I looked him in the face and said I told you.

Taking a racist on one on one very feasible what's dangerous is when you embolden them.

Time for them to run back where the sun don't shine.

[RussellCattle]

52. Perfect. Great post. We need to be "anti-racist" and this raises consciousness.

[plimsoll]

54. Your boyfriend and now husband tormented the "nerds"

Because he knew that even if he had no actual skills his family connections would insure a smooth transition onto mahogany row.

[lunatica]

55. They used to whisper sideways with their hands shielding their mouths

Unfortunately the likes of Sara Palin and then Trump threw the doors wide open as an invitation for them to out themselves and openly brag and threaten about what they had only whispered about before.

They won’t change, but if we shame them they’ll slink back into their hides holes and shut up. They’re cowards and they need to be shunned by all decent people. There are more decent people who go out and march than there are racists.

[AllaN01Bear]

56. we also have those types in my apartment complex makeing their own rules

gossiping behind peoples backs . also they are archie bunker types too. and their snide little "jokes " which arnt and they hurt.

[Peacetrain]

58. Amen to that!!!!

I know them well myself.. and they look for places to act like complete insane idiots.. they search it out.. they have always been a universal pain in the ass.. and the rest of us spend our entire lives trying to pick up their pieces and apologizing for their idiocy.. the good thing about the moment now.. is the shared anger, they can't try and get our attention as if we share anything with them....

They have no place to run and hide except with the racists they are usually attached to..

Can't we just give them a three or four unpopulated counties.. and put a 20 foot fence around them and let them go to town on each other and leave the rest of us alone.

[demmiblue]

61. K&R

Shite, I (also a white woman) got called out for posting this video:

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213708207

Thank you for this post.


Edit: except for the school volunteers part... most I have known were solid dems who didn't cause drama... they just wanted to help the students and teachers.

[TNNurse]

62. Dear Yardwork (great name by the way)

May I copy and post this on FB? I will admit that I did not write it.

[yardwork]

66. I would be honored! Please don't reference my name or DU, though.

I try to stay anonymous on the internet and so I don't even cross post on different media. So no attribution necessary, but you are welcome to share.

[TNNurse]

67. Do not fear, I will honor your privacy.

I told a story on here once and used my real name. I was cautioned by some on here, but I left it.

[onecaliberal]

65. Hear, hear. As a white woman it's important for me to call them out. Especially since

The way I look could mistakenly identify me as one of them.

[yardwork]

80. Yes, it's up to each of us to stand up to this.

[brer cat]

69. Great OP!

You nailed them beautifully.

[yardwork]

79. Appreciate that!

[Upthevibe]

71. yardwork.....Perfectly stated...n/t

[yardwork]

78. Thanks!

[StarfishSaver]

73. Brava!

Great post.

[yardwork]

77. Thank you!