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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill you decline a COVID-19 vaccine if it is rushed?
Was thinking about this, I dont know that I will trust a vaccine that is rolled out without proper test trials to identify effectiveness and any side effects.
Do you all see it only made available to more vulnerable populations at first? Like the elderly, obese, people with respiratory problems, etc.
dchill
(38,484 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,794 posts)I trust nothing done under the tRump Administration.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)madville
(7,410 posts)We will have to rely on expert analysis and recommendations from trusted sources.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Like the turd's hippy dippy doctor?
NOTHING against hippies. Was one, still am one. But I clean up nice.
Not sure about dippies.
The turd wants to kill me (and anyone else who doesn't swallow his schtick). I trust nothing that is attached to the turd.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)If he isn't convinced the science is strong we won't do it. Plus if Trump says it is "the best ever" forget it. My husband knows what they should do, so if he sees that they are skirting the proper scientific protocol, he said we would not be getting one.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Please post his feed back!
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)He works with super bugs, that is his research area.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)I'll watch for it.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Bodybags.
If it is developed under a Biden led team, I will shorten that timeline.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Those will be published and available, if you know where to find them.
As for distribution, we'll see how that works. If they are first distributed to Republican elected officials, that will be a sign that the vaccine is effective and safe. if, on the other hand, they are first given to the poor and elderly, you'll want to check the trial results before deciding.
I remember very well lining up as a child for the Salk polio vaccine injections. I will probably try my best to get the vaccination early, to be quite frank. My assumption is that it will not be released unless it is, at least, safe. How effective it will be will not really be known until millions receive it. That is the final test trial, really.
However, I will also pay close attention to what company produces the first available vaccine. If there is any association with Trump there, I will probably wait for a while.
TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts).
It's hard to know what we'll actually see.
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kairos12
(12,858 posts)a Trump Steak.
Happy Hoosier
(7,296 posts)texasfiddler
(1,990 posts)Aristus
(66,328 posts)The publishers don't give a shit what Trump wants; they publish the science.
Check the Journal of the American Medical Association, the New England Journal of Medicine, the British Medical Journal, and so on.
If FOX News says "It's safe! It's totally safe! Just take our word for it!", be skeptical...
Yonnie3
(17,434 posts)I can continue to isolate and be careful for a while more.
This question may be moot as I suspect we will be told "anyone who wants it can get it" and people will wait all day to be disappointed. Just like the testing.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)I will not take a vaccine that trump and this administration pushes.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)Response to madville (Original post)
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dalton99a
(81,475 posts)They are probably the organization least likely to recommend something that doesn't work or kills people
RT Atlanta
(2,517 posts)Once they have been vaccinated and have, say a few weeks, pass without any ill side effects, then I may consider.
Until then, it's isolation for me.
ananda
(28,858 posts)???
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)unless contraindicated due to certain conditions.
Realistically, I know that there are going to be some Covidiots whom will stupidly refuse to deal with it, which will keep it in circulation for longer than it should be but
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)The suggestion is that once the vaccine reaches a certain stage, they start manufacturing it - so that once it completes testing there is no delay while testing ramps up. It is a financial risk being proposed, not a medical one.
I won't take it until it is provem more than 50% effective, and the trial results are published so that I can review them and make an informed decision.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Even then, I might wait a few weeks or months to see if things go well.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)And then wait a few weeks or months. That's my test trial. I already have had trouble with the flu vaccine (really bad reactions to increased senior dose made me have to revert to normal dose, which is okay).
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)to anyone in the gov or CDC because they are in Trump pocket nad he has no regard for people's health or safety.
marlakay
(11,457 posts)And comes out with a vaccine, if he says its ok then I will use it.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Until he gives the thumbs up, fuck no?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)It was rushed out there, people were strongly encouraged to get it immediately, and it was implied that those who didn't simply had a death wish. And that happened during a Republican Administration that was not corrupt and venal.
I can continue to self-isolate indefinitely, and will give any vaccine at least six months to demonstrate it actually is safe and effective.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Exactly what you said. Even if the vaccine isn't "rushed" I'm going to give it six months to see how many people get Guillain Barre syndrome or other complications.
Haste makes waste. There's a mad rush to get this done, with billions of dollars at stake. I intend to be careful.
Just to be crystal clear: I'm not anti-vax. I had all my recommended shots growing up and later into adulthood. If you work with animals you have to get your tetanus shots.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)I absolutely have lots of doubts about a vaccine rushed to market. Especially if it's not particularly effective. More so if it turns out to have its own serious side-effects, which was the case with the Swine Flu vaccine.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)movement I haven't read about that's trying to develop a national refusal to be vaccinated to go with the refusal to wear masks? Where do I go to find out more about it than here on DU?
No, I can't imagine that I will decline any vaccine that becomes available to me. However, since I'm not a front-line worker, or any kind of worker, or among the most endangered in nursing homes, etc., the first-developed vaccines will be used on many, many thousands of people long before any of them becomes available to me.
That goes for almost all those who are prematurely worrying about this: Most of us wouldn't get to turn a presumably inadequately tested vaccine or bleach injection down because it won't be offered to us.
I'm more inclined to worry instead that the Republicans, our new kleptocrat classes, most of the MSM,and of course Russia, China, Iran and others, could somehow keep the Republicans in control in DC and that "won't" could become "possibly won't ever." The elections are far from sure.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I strongly suspect that many of them are anti-maskers as well
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to drum up anti-vax paranoia, but if it's coming through DU this often, what about the rest of social media? I don't like it. When subversive agents and flakes hand try to hand this ball off, it should be slapped down.
Personally, I'm "dying for a vaccine," or at least sick and tired of being high-risk hiding from death. Those will inevitably continue between development and widespread availability, and there's no reason to think the first vaccines developed and approved will be the most efficacious. The threshold for approval is 50% effective.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)not vaccines in general. I'd say that some distrust and caution is in order given who we are talking about
I'm very eager for a vaccine, personally
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to scrutinize intelligently is NOT "understandably" nervous. That's the point. Because, for just one reason among others, there is literally no vaccination to be "nervous" about right now.
We're waiting to see what is developed in literally hundreds of laboratories around the planet.
And once one is available, I fully expect those currently blathering about refusing vaccination while Trump's able to poison them to switch to complaining because vaccination is available to others but not them. And in that they'll joining millions of others eager to finally achieve some degree of protection.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)If it is rubber stamped by China or pushed by tRUMP, then no.