All indoor activity closed again in California.

[onecaliberal]

in addition, the services listed below are also closing in the 30 counties on the watch list.

Fitness centers
Offices
Hair salons
Personal care services
Malls
Worship services

Per Governor Newsom press conference right now in response to the increases of virus in the state.

7 day average case numbers 8,200
Increase of 7 counties on the watch list from last week.
Positivity rate of 7.4% over a 14 day Period
https://abc7.com/governor-newsom-update-today-gavin-press-conference-california-covid-19-coronavirus/6315327/

[Wounded Bear]

1. K & R...for visibility...

Link would be nice.

[diva77]

2. Why don't they come up with a guaranteed income once and for all instead of playing

this deadly game of opening up?? Make masks mandatory and use NY as a model of how to get the message to the people.

Rethugs are up to their eyeballs in blood.

I also don't understand why Newsom caved and opened up too early. The science wasn't there to back him up.

[enough]

4. Yes. NT

[onecaliberal]

5. Masks have been mandatory for weeks here.

I live in a red county where people and business refuse to comply. The state opened too early and did not follow the original plan.

[diva77]

8. Masks are mandatory in LA County as well and the mentality is that you're being nice if you don't

bother people who aren't wearing masks. It is so backward - literally and figuratively.

[ucrdem]

89. That captures the sentiment here in the IE too.

In March, when many were making do with homemade masks, the peer pressure was on anyone who improvised too casually. Now the same glaring oldsters are breezing around obliviously and looking sheepish when they approach people still wearing masks.

What happened?

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. Do it nation wide, shut it all down. Do what needs to be done. Get this

under control NOW!

[BigmanPigman]

47. A national 6 week shutdown is necessary

as well as a plan to mass produce supplies, guarantee all jobs won't be lost, freeze all rent and mortgage payments, and weekly $$$ payments to live on. I think other countries in Europe did this and it worked. tRump wants us killed and bankrupt (so does the GOP...that has been their goal for years).

[Blue_true]

53. The problem is, with 30% of people refusing to obey social distancing or

wear masks when in public, we can shut down completely and as soon as we open back up, we will be back where we started within two months.

We have a country that has become ungovernable, thanks to the efforts of the Republican Party now, and over decades.

[BigmanPigman]

55. As long as the GOP is in power we will stay sick and unemployed.

No big deal....

[Blue_true]

56. Even when they are not in power, they rile up that 30% and have them threaten violence.

End the end their threats will need to be met head on. The hardcore one will fight and we need to be prepared for that and not back down.

[onecaliberal]

76. The ungovernable need to be jailed.

[Blue_true]

87. Yes. nt

[onecaliberal]

71. All of this. We should have been producing PPE non stop since March.

80% of California scaled back starting tomorrow. I don’t know what it’s going to take to wake people up.

[BigmanPigman]

73. It has to personally hit them like with Mulvaney and his son....

"Former White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney on Monday criticized the U.S. coronavirus testing process, calling his family’s difficulties in obtaining tests and delays in the results “inexcusable” in the seventh month of the pandemic, splitting from his former boss’ repeated boasts about testing."

“I know it isn’t popular to talk about in some Republican circles, but we still have a testing problem in this country,” Mulvaney wrote in an op-ed for CNBC.

"Mulvaney, who served in Congress before leading the White House budget office and becoming chief of staff, said his son had recently been tested for the virus and had to wait up to a week for the results, and that his daughter was turned away from getting a test before she went to visit her grandparents."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/13/mulvaney-coronavirus-testing-359695

*These asses only give a shit when it hits them or their family. Same with the GOP cult members. They only care about themselves....always have and always will.

[onecaliberal]

75. Their only problem is they can't get privilege in this case.

It’s fine for everyone else to wait a week for results. People are dying at home without ever having been tested. The lack or response is a crime against humanity. We need to push those mother fuckers aside and do something, a lot of people are dying. It is the very source of my anxiety. Watching all of the death, not seeing anyone willing to stop it.

[underpants]

3. I'm keeping up with haircuts from now on

after 4 months I looked like a hermit or a prospector

[Blue_true]

51. I purchased a pair of hair clippers. After the first time, I actually like my hair

with me cutting it. The only problem areas are around the ears and trimming the back, when I can go to a barber again, I will have him do only that, the rest I will do myself.

[BootinUp]

64. you're in the barganing phase i think. lol

[stopbush]

6. Affects my wife, who is a cosmetologist in OC.

Looks like she's be back on unemployment.

And I just informed EDD that she was back to full employment when I did her benefit certification yesterday. I had been holding off, posting her earned wages for the last 4 weeks which showed she had excessive earnings and wouldn’t get UI benefits for those weeks, but wary that a shutdown order was coming. Looks like I pulled the plug a day early. Now, I’ll need to reopen her claim.

[BamaRefugee]

7. SO everyone involved in these things is out of work AGAIN, and Senate doesn't want us to get $600

extra unemployment, wtf are we supposed to be doing? My small business has been closed since late March, but I am STILL paying all my business licenses and fees, waiting to re-open, as well as $1.25 MILLION in business insurance, and I'm not making a penny.

[onecaliberal]

10. Yup. They're all acting as though we don't need fucking money to eat.

[BamaRefugee]

14. Forget eating, I'm about to send the IRS $1000 in quarterly estimated tax and I've been UNEMPLOYED

for 4 months! Plus I just paid my usual taxes for 2019 AND my accountant, ain't no money left for food even with the extra 600!

I already gave up cable but had to keep internet, and now all the contents of my storage unit are in my living room!

[onecaliberal]

18. I'm sorry.

I wouldn’t have given away my last dollars.

[BamaRefugee]

20. You would if IRS is already draining your bank account monthly over an ongoing tax dispute!

Can't provide them with any more red flags!

[onecaliberal]

25. If only you were a tax fraudster, you'd be okay.

I do get it, we owed a few years worth way back in the day and they nearly froze our bank account over it because we couldn’t pay what they were demanding because of medical bills. This country is just completely fucked.

[BamaRefugee]

28. Sorry that happened! The IRS is supposed to have suspended the bank account thefts for 3 months due

to pandemic but of course, they haven't stopped (although they may well not be crediting me for the thievery) and calling the IRS has resulted in instant recording saying they are taking no calls in these troubled times.

[onecaliberal]

29. Keeping Positive thoughts and hoping for action to resolve the situation in your favor immediately.

[BamaRefugee]

44. thanks my friend

[Blue_true]

54. In a general sense. What type of business are you in? nt

[BamaRefugee]

58. I'm a registered, licensed and bonded Process Server. Courts are shut down basically, attorneys are

barely functioning, so without subpoenas and summonses, writs and levies, unlawful detainers, etc, being issued, and court dates being given, I have no work.
The last week I worked, in March, I got 8 jobs. In 7 days. I usually get a dozen a day. I would go broke working like that. Then my doctor ordered me to stay at home anyway, so, BAM, my business is closed.

[Blue_true]

59. Yeah, you don't have the capacity to work around the pandemic, due to the nature of your work. nt

[BamaRefugee]

61. Right. Standing about a 2 feet away from someone denying who they are and screaming at me with

their fetid COVID breath is not a healthy scenario.

[Sogo]

15. Your insurance company should be cutting your premium,

like auto insurance has been, due to non-driving during lockdown.

Perhaps you should approach them about that....

[BamaRefugee]

17. Nope. All I can do is cancel the policy, then get another one when I can work again. But who knows

if they'll skyrocket the premiums then?
Plus I will have to contact all of my clients and other entities with new insurance policy, etc, it's a clustef**k.

[Sogo]

22. Indeed. That sucks....

[Ghost Dog]

36. How come you can't claim any compensation

from the business insurance?

[BamaRefugee]

45. Compensation? You mean like the reduction in auto insurance?

I have no idea, I called and asked, they said I can cancel the policy and that's it. Start over again later.
I may be forced to do that soon, but would rather not.

[Ghost Dog]

52. Loss of business beyond your control?

Depends on the small print, I imagine.

[BamaRefugee]

57. There doesn't seem to be any small print, you either have a policy at their price, or you don't.

My business depends on the US and California courts being in business as well as attorney's offices, everything is basically shut down, the last week I worked, I got 8 jobs. In 7 days. I usually get a dozen a day.
Then my doctor ordered me to stay home due to age and underlying medical issues, so, I had to close down.

[BannonsLiver]

88. *senate republicans don't want you to have the $600

[BittyJenkins]

11. That is a relief,

I know it will be hard on people but in the last two weeks our county's death rate has tripled and so have the new infections. This is getting way out of control again. Hopefully government can help with monies for people. We are in very hard times.

[Hekate]

12. Glad I got my hair cut last week; I told my hairdresser I didn't know when I'd be back...

She completely understood. Her safety protocol was excellent though

Off to the dental hygienist finally...

[peggysue2]

37. I did the same thing, Hekate

Had my hair cut and colored during the lull and before our health department's mandatory mask ruling. I went early in the morning to a shop that has strict protocols in place and of course, I was masked and gloved. As were the stylists and every employee. In and out within 2 hours. The employees were very diligent, cleaning down seats, arm rests and all equipment between uses and the shop had customers spaced out. No sitting in the waiting area; they come and wave you in from the parking lot

Haven't tried the dentist yet. My front teeth need capping, about a 3-hour appt., though the dentist isn't sure what he'll find beneath the cosmetic veneers I've had in place for the last decade. Not sure how long I'll put that work off. I rescheduled my hygiene appt until October. But in all honestly, our dentist has always practiced serious safety measures. They're probably a safer bet than a lot of other businesses.

Btw, I said the same thing to my stylist: cut it shorter than normal because I don't know when I'll be back in. Took a lot off. My hair was well below my shoulders.

The times we are a-living!

[brush]

13. So much for trump crowing about unemployment rates going down.q

I can see that big "L" on his forehead now.

[beaglelover]

16. When is this effective. I have a haircut scheduled today at 5:45.

Grrrr. This sucks.

[onecaliberal]

26. Basically today. Now.

[beaglelover]

42. My stylist called to say she's working through the day in the salon so I'm good.

[FreeState]

62. No - starts at 12:00am Wednesday n/t

[Hekate]

70. I got one last errand done on the way out of town from seeing the dentist today...

The dentist’s receptionist had a really cute mask on, all flowery & went with her dress. I asked her where she’d gotten it and how much it cost: she said it was a 5-pack for $25 at a little boutique. Score!

But in a harbinger of my upcoming doc’s appointment, the bookstore and shoe store were both closed, although I managed to get a croissant.

[kysrsoze]

19. I agree with closing indoor restaurants, bars and gyms. Not so much with hair salons and malls

Since the U.S. Govt isn't helping us out, people here need work so we have to strike some sort of balance. I got my hair cut one since this started, and the shop was very careful about wearing masks, separating patrons and making everyone wait outside. We went to Macy's last week looking for furniture and there were so few people at the mall, and as long as people wear masks, I don't think it's a substantial risk. In addition, open-air malls and shops are still allowed to operate.

I see a lot of towns and restaurants are expanding open-air dining, which I think is good. We need to see more creativity like this, drive-in movies and concerts, etc.

Glad to see LAUSD and San Diego County decided to cancel all in-person school. That was a disaster waiting to happen.

[diva77]

24. I wonder whether Cruella De Vos will get away with yanking funding from these already severely

underfunded school districts.

[onecaliberal]

30. Only Title Programs are funded by the feds.

[diva77]

65. Thanks for educating me!

[onecaliberal]

66. It would hurt schools no question but by no means

Can he defund.

[FreeState]

63. We've had several breakouts at Gyms and Salons

and that's just in San Diego.

[totodeinhere]

82. Human life is more important than hair salons and malls.

Yes, some people employed in those industries will suffer. But human life is more important than dollars. Everything must be closed down to save lives. Even if all it saves is one human life it's worth it.

[Baclava]

21. Outdoor Disney Downtown open

Scenes from Downtown Disney’s Busy Opening Day







While most people wore masks, many people blatantly removed their masks. At restaurants, servers were forced to approach and serve tables of customers who had removed and not replaced their masks while sitting at the outdoor tables.

Lines wound outside places like Wetzel’s Pretzels, where people waited as long as 45 minutes for their snack. The temperatures were staggeringly warm and the only way to get was to purchase it from one of the overwhelmed vendors scattered throughout the outdoor mall. The longest wait we encountered was for the World Of Disney Store, which was using a timed-entry system (I had to wait about two and a half hours). Once inside, I spoke to several Disney fanatics who said they were worried about getting sick, but that they just couldn’t miss out on the chance of purchasing the limited quantity 65th anniversary merch available for the first time that day in the store.

Unfortunately, while people in lines and on the “street” were great about social distancing, the same can’t be said for people inside the store itself. Ironically, the worst place to try to shop was at one of the shelves selling Disney-themed masks (four for $20, with a limit of four per person). I was chased away repeatedly by people crowding around and leaning over me to grab items.

https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/disneyland-reopening-downtown-disney/

[onecaliberal]

31. They will be closing again. The restaurants at least.

[Baclava]

32. Bars, "both indoor and outdoor" will be closing again, too

[onecaliberal]

33. Yes all bars and wineries everywhere.

All Bars are already closed in the counties in the watchlist.

[Celerity]

85. This is the literal definition of dumbfuckery and I-truly-have-no-life-ism

Once inside, I spoke to several Disney fanatics who said they were worried about getting sick, but that they just couldn’t miss out on the chance of purchasing the limited quantity 65th anniversary merch available for the first time that day in the store.

[still_one]

23. Depends on the county. Looks like Santa Clara county barbershops and salons are open

[onecaliberal]

34. The 30 counties on the watch list are closed for everything.

[still_one]

35. I understand. Santa Clara county isn't on that list. In my view the California Covid site

does not make it easy to navigate through it to find specific information

[onecaliberal]

39. It may not he updated since the new regulations are going into place today.

As a rule I’ve been doing the same things all along. I never went to dinner or the beach or even the grocery store. I haven’t gotten a haircut or gone to the gym. I’ve been home trying to keep my vulnerable husband and the rest of my family from becoming infected.

[still_one]

50. Except for grocery store, that is pretty much a similar routine for me also

Take care

[still_one]

74. They updated it yesterday. Santa Clara County will close down barbershops tomorrow

after being open for two days

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/covid19/Pages/press-statement-07-13-2020-state-order.aspx

I hate to say this, but I think Newsom has been dealing with this poorly. This county to county open or closures is not only confusing, but people can go from one county that is closed to one that is open, and that is not a good thing.

They should close things state wide, get things under control, then they can slowly open on a county by county basis based on the guidelines

[onecaliberal]

77. I agree. It can't be open for business until the virus is under control.

Other countries have accomplished this. We just need to do what they did. Of course it would require a non lunatic to lead an actual national response and not make states with little funds to compete against one another to protect the lives of those on the front lines. It truly is crimes against humanity.

[still_one]

79. +++

[BootinUp]

27. Shoot looks like I'm going pony tail soon, lol. Nt

[Dem2]

38. Get one of these

https://www.flowbee.com/index.html

Don't laugh, I bought one 30 years ago and busted that bad-boy out during the shutdown, still works!

[smirkymonkey]

48. Or, the "Suck-Cut"!

[peggysue2]

40. Gotta do what you gotta do to bring this virus under control

Multiple outbreaks have happened in other countries and the remedy is the same as Newsom ordered: temporarily lock down so you can put a lid on it, reopen carefully with an eye out for hotspots. Hong Kong has recently closed schools and this morning shut down Disney World to contain a sudden infection uptick.

This is the way the world looks right now and will continue to look until an effective vaccine emerges.

[onecaliberal]

41. Agree.

[triron]

43. Need to do this in NM urgently. Over 100 new cases in Bernalillo cty yesterday.

Governor only closed indoor dining.

[AllaN01Bear]

49. a friend of mine now lives in monterrey county(prunedale ) manditory mask wearing.

thousand dollar fine . we need a state wide mandate with teeth. and go after sherrifs who wont enforce it.

[Blue_true]

60. Sheriffs that won't enforce reasonable mandates should be removed from office, and if their

deputies refuse, fire them all, in fact fire any cop, local, state or federal that refuse to enforce mandates that are intended to get this country back to functioning smoothly during this pandemic.

[onecaliberal]

78. Hear hear. The sheriff here announced a month ago she won't enforce the mask mandate.

A breast cancer survivor even. My city mayor said they wouldn’t enforce it either. Now suddenly they’re posting photos of themselves masked on the city webpage. The governor needs to send strike teams to fine the hell out of these people. We had low cases for a while but after months of people acting like there is no pandemic that has all changed. Our hospitals are full.

[shanti]

67. Courts?

[ucrdem]

68. They probably should have stayed closed, but now at least now we know better ..

I was eager for the gym to reopen and went every day for an hour at 5 am the first week and a half. Then people decided to stop wearing masks and started having casual conversations across the gaps in the blocked-off machines. Who was there to enforce the mask requirement? No one. So I left. Next time I get a chance I'm going to cancel my membership as I don't see returning any time soon.

[Xolodno]

69. Wine club we belong to...

...wasn't on the list of counties. But just got the email from them stating, even though they weren't on the list, they and the other local wineries all agreed to add additional safe guards, limiting the number of people inside even more, requiring reservations, etc.

In other words, they don't want to end up on the list.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

72. my son and I just got haircuts this past weekend! thank the lord

we don't have to wait even longer

[totodeinhere]

80. That is what Governor Newsom ordered but it remains to be seen if he can enforce it.

Some businesses have already said that they will defy this order, and at least one county sheriff has said that he will not enforce it.

[onecaliberal]

81. The Sheriff in my county said that over a month ago.

The governor sent strike teams here to hold business accountable. Also he offered incentives to city governments to enforce the mandate. IMO if you hold a position in city government and for whatever reason you fail to do your sworn duty, you should be immediately fired.

[totodeinhere]

83. I agree but you can't just fire a sheriff. She or he was elected by the voters.

You could try to sue to force them to comply but that could be tied up in the courts for weeks or months, meanwhile more people will die.

[onecaliberal]

84. I think the governor can fire the sheriff.

In any case he isn’t going to do that. I live in CA22 which is traitor nunes district so honestly it’s not a surprise. It’s just indicative of how pathetic a place we find ourselves in this country.

[totodeinhere]

86. Source please. I just did a search for the topic and I could find nothing that indicates

that a governor can fire a sheriff. Governors can't just go around firing elected officials.

[onecaliberal]

90. It varies from state to state.

If you searched google you read that. I clearly stated it wasn’t going to happen. I don’t have time to argue about something I stipulated from the start would not happen.