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How Republicans used to be: (Original Post) volstork Jul 2020 OP
I would think they would be embarrassed by this ass in the WH, but so many love him RKP5637 Jul 2020 #1
Cut from the same piece of s**t, actually. RainCaster Jul 2020 #20
Minnie Cox never returned to her position. no_hypocrisy Jul 2020 #2
Thank you for that information. volstork Jul 2020 #3
A hundred years later... "On 14 July 2008, the Indianola post office was renamed in her honor" progressoid Jul 2020 #5
Not surprised by that, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #14
She did go back, and opened a bank. NT Celerity Jul 2020 #34
The reason Teddy Roosevelt is considered as a great president DFW Jul 2020 #4
Always enjoy your viewpoints. I met quite a few Republicans back in the 50s - 70s erronis Jul 2020 #9
I remember when there were good Republicans. Things started to sour in the 1970s. japple Jul 2020 #17
I agree with you KentuckyWoman Jul 2020 #28
My stepfather and I were discussing politics back in 1996 plimsoll Jul 2020 #24
Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive Republican. Laelth Jul 2020 #6
Current Republicans love to claim hims as their own, but their counterparts at the time... JHB Jul 2020 #10
Precisely. n/t Laelth Jul 2020 #12
He would be a solid democrat now, volstork Jul 2020 #15
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Jul 2020 #7
So I guess Don Jr. and Eric are "Roosevelt Republicans" BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #8
Absolutely a fair question. I don't know how to classify these types of people. erronis Jul 2020 #11
Teddy Roosevelt LOVED killing animals that had absolutely no chance to fight back. i don't get it BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #13
Have to agree with you. volstork Jul 2020 #16
Carl Akeley keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #22
Comparing TR with Uday/Qusay, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2020 #18
The Trumps are not shy about proclaiming how much they have 'sacrificed'. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #25
Imagine my tears of sympathy for the Trump family's sacrifices. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2020 #30
A lot of Roosevelt's kills were donated to museums mgardener Jul 2020 #26
i have a small 60's? "why i am a republican" card. eisenhowerish. pansypoo53219 Jul 2020 #19
Ike's 1956 Party Platform (for re-election) FakeNoose Jul 2020 #23
TR was no peach. He did great things (trust busting and national parks) but he also Squinch Jul 2020 #21
Romanticism and 20-20 hindsight cause people to overlook serious faults. Blue_true Jul 2020 #29
Heck, look at that asshole Nixon: dalton99a Jul 2020 #27
I hate it that Nixon gets any credit at all for the EPA. He fought the concept tooth and nail, but Nitram Jul 2020 #32
My thought is that Teddy was anything but a typical Republican. He even ran as an independent when Nitram Jul 2020 #31
Although they are now the party of racists, once upon... NNadir Jul 2020 #33

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
1. I would think they would be embarrassed by this ass in the WH, but so many love him
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jul 2020

and/or are too cowardly to stand up to him or their constituents. However, I think for many of the GOP today, tRump is cut from the same piece of cloth that they are ...

RainCaster

(10,815 posts)
20. Cut from the same piece of s**t, actually.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jul 2020

I am so appalled at what the GOP has become. Can somebody dream up a new party to replace them? Maybe the All-Night Party?

progressoid

(49,933 posts)
5. A hundred years later... "On 14 July 2008, the Indianola post office was renamed in her honor"
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:32 PM
Jul 2020

On 14 July 2008, the Indianola post office was renamed in her honor with the passage of House Bill 4010.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,414 posts)
14. Not surprised by that,
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jul 2020

I couldn't imagine she'd want to return to that town even if they hadn't threatened her.

I hope she had some grandkids or great-grandkids around to see the PO named after her.

DFW

(54,268 posts)
4. The reason Teddy Roosevelt is considered as a great president
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jul 2020

He understood that the job was one of service to the nation, and not a perk the nation granted to him. Also--he understood that the onus was upon HIM to do good, and it was the right and the duty of the nation to call him out if he did wrong.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

The only post-WWII Republican who even had a whiff of understanding this was Eisenhower. I think, ironically enough, that Bob Dole, as president, would have understood this as well, even though I am VERY glad we never had to find out.

Calvin Coolidge was (to my very biased way of thinking) far too beholden to the God Squad for me to admire him too much, but he did have his head screwed on straight about a few issues. He came out once with a quote that came close to mirroring TR's quote above:

“When a man begins to feel that he is the only one who can lead in this republic, he is guilty of treason to the spirit of our institutions.”

erronis

(15,170 posts)
9. Always enjoy your viewpoints. I met quite a few Republicans back in the 50s - 70s
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jul 2020

only because my father worked with many administrations (Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon...). Many of them were fine people even if anti-social programs.

Things really went south (southern strategy?) with Nixon although there was plenty of skulduggery during every one. Reagan epitomized the "government is the problem" altho he made government the problem. The beginning of saying-what-you-don't-mean?

Once the vultures got their claws into government via lobbyists, bribes and blackmail, there was no more sense of governance for the people. They're still here.

As Shakespeare might have said: "First, get rid of K Street."

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
28. I agree with you
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:54 PM
Jul 2020

I have always supported Democrats but Republicans seemed at least have decent hearts and work from a fact based environment... up until the run up to Reagan. Sometimes I wondered if it was simply derangement from Nixon getting busted.

Add in the rise of 24 hr cable news and all the changes that destroyed reliable information....

plimsoll

(1,667 posts)
24. My stepfather and I were discussing politics back in 1996
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jul 2020

Yes you could do that with a Republican back then. I said I preferred a moderate, he said Bob Dole is a moderate, I disagreed at the time. I think he was on to something.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive Republican.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:43 PM
Jul 2020

He was a completely different political animal than the Coolidges and Tafts of the party. Roosevelt was an aberration.

-Laelth

JHB

(37,152 posts)
10. Current Republicans love to claim hims as their own, but their counterparts at the time...
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jul 2020

...(which would be a mix of Republican and Democratic factions) called him a "socialist" for some of the policies he championed.

erronis

(15,170 posts)
11. Absolutely a fair question. I don't know how to classify these types of people.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jul 2020

I wouldn't like them back then, or now.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
13. Teddy Roosevelt LOVED killing animals that had absolutely no chance to fight back. i don't get it
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jul 2020

either.
You wanna prove you're a big bad he man? Go after them naked, and bare handed.
Otherwise FUCK OFF.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,315 posts)
18. Comparing TR with Uday/Qusay, ...
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

TR led a charge up San Juan Hill.

Don Jr and Eric military records are less stellar.

keithbvadu2

(36,640 posts)
25. The Trumps are not shy about proclaiming how much they have 'sacrificed'.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jul 2020

The Trumps are not shy about proclaiming how much they have 'sacrificed'.

Visit to Arlington Cemetery reminded Donald Trump Jr. of all his family's 'sacrifices,' he writes

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/visit-to-arlington-cemetery-reminded-donald-trump-jr-of-all-his-family-s-sacrifices-he-writes-1.606501

mgardener

(1,810 posts)
26. A lot of Roosevelt's kills were donated to museums
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:43 PM
Jul 2020

Museum of Natural History and Smithsonian

A View of Animals That Theodore Roosevelt Shot - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/nyregion/a-view-of-animals-that-theodore-roosevelt-shot.html

Smithsonian–Roosevelt African Expedition - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithsonian%E2%80%93Roosevelt_African_Expedition

Squinch

(50,901 posts)
21. TR was no peach. He did great things (trust busting and national parks) but he also
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jul 2020

did really, really horrible things.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. Romanticism and 20-20 hindsight cause people to overlook serious faults.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jul 2020

TR, Wilson, FDR, JFK, LBJ had them big time. Wilson in particular did some horrible things to staunch a rising Black middleclass.

dalton99a

(81,386 posts)
27. Heck, look at that asshole Nixon:
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:52 PM
Jul 2020
— The National Environmental Policy Act (1969), which among other things required that all federal agencies produce environmental impact statements on the possible negative effects of any and all regulations. It also created the President’s Council on Environmental Quality.

— The Environmental Protection Agency (1970).

— The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA, 1970). Proposed by Nixon “...for better protection of life and property from natural hazards…for a better understanding of the total environment…[and] for exploration and development leading to the intelligent use of our marine resources…”

— The Clean Air Act (1970).

— Earth Week (1971).

— The Clean Water Act (1972).

— The Endangered Species Act (1973).

His opponents claimed, naturally, that all of these seemingly noble gestures were politically motivated. Nixon didn’t care about he environment: he knew lots of Americans did care, and he wanted to divert attention from the disaster in Vietnam. There’s probably a grain of truth in it, but so what?


And his 1974 plan for comprehensive health insurance

The current vintage of Republicans are fucking traitors and thieves


Nitram

(22,755 posts)
32. I hate it that Nixon gets any credit at all for the EPA. He fought the concept tooth and nail, but
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 10:32 AM
Jul 2020

ended up signing the bill into law once he accepted that the Democratic majority in both houses of Congress would pass it over a veto. Nixon was a politician first and foremost, and he wanted credit for a progressive bill if it was inevitably going to pass.

Nitram

(22,755 posts)
31. My thought is that Teddy was anything but a typical Republican. He even ran as an independent when
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jul 2020

he ran for president as a member of his Progressive ("Bull Moose&quot Party.

NNadir

(33,457 posts)
33. Although they are now the party of racists, once upon...
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jul 2020

...a time, they were pushing against racism and bigotry, beginning with Lincoln, continuing with Grant, up to and including TR.

Our party was like their party as late as 1960, although there was considerable dissent.

The push against racism in the Democratic Party began with the greatest Democrat of the 20th century, Eleanor Roosevelt, and became official under LBJ.

I have read accounts of Ms. Roosevelt having had to be nice at dinners in the White House with the likes of segregationists like James Eastland.

We now oppose racism while they revel in celebrating it.

Above all, we must fight to restore decency to America.

MAKE AMERICA DECENT AGAIN. MADA!

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