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Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:54 PM Jul 2020

T cells found in COVID-19 patients 'bode well' for long-term immunity

Science’s COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center.

Immune warriors known as T cells help us fight some viruses, but their importance for battling SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has been unclear. Now, two studies reveal infected people harbor T cells that target the virus—and may help them recover. Both studies also found some people never infected with SARS-CoV-2 have these cellular defenses, most likely because they were previously infected with other coronaviruses.

“This is encouraging data,” says virologist Angela Rasmussen of Columbia University. Although the studies don’t clarify whether people who clear a SARS-CoV-2 infection can ward off the virus in the future, both identified strong T cell responses to it, which “bodes well for the development of long-term protective immunity,” Rasmussen says. The findings could also help researchers create better vaccines.

The more than 100 COVID-19 vaccines in development mainly focus on another immune response: antibodies. These proteins are made by B cells and ideally latch onto SARS-CoV-2 and prevent it from entering cells. T cells, in contrast, thwart infections in two different ways. Helper T cells spur B cells and other immune defenders into action, whereas killer T cells target and destroy infected cells. The severity of disease can depend on the strength of these T cell responses.

Using bioinformatics tools, a team led by Shane Crotty and Alessandro Sette, immunologists at the La Jolla Institute for Immunology, predicted which viral protein pieces would provoke the most powerful T cell responses. They then exposed immune cells from 10 patients who had recovered from mild cases of COVID-19 to these viral snippets.

All of the patients carried helper T cells that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which enables the virus to infiltrate our cells. They also harbored helper T cells that react to other SARS-CoV-2 proteins. And the team detected virus-specific killer T cells in 70% of the subjects, they report today in Cell. “The immune system sees this virus and mounts an effective immune response,” Sette says.

The results jibe with those of a study posted as a preprint on medRxiv on 22 April by immunologist Andreas Thiel of the Charité University Hospital in Berlin and colleagues. They identified helper T cells targeting the spike protein in 15 out of 18 patients hospitalized with COVID-19.

The teams also asked whether people who haven’t been infected with SARS-CoV-2 also produce cells that combat it. Thiel and colleagues analyzed blood from 68 uninfected people and found that 34% hosted helper T cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. The La Jolla team detected this crossreactivity in about half of stored blood samples collected between 2015 and 2018, well before the current pandemic began. The researchers think these cells were likely triggered by past infection with one of the four human coronaviruses that cause colds; proteins in these viruses resemble those of SARS-CoV-2.

The results suggest “one reason that a large chunk of the population may be able to deal with the virus is that we may have some small residual immunity from our exposure to common cold viruses,” says viral immunologist Steven Varga of the University of Iowa. However, neither of the studies attempted to establish that people with crossreactivity don’t become as ill from COVID-19.

More: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity?fbclid=IwAR1cKY5K2Ri9Yhav3Kw5pO2TkArMmD80n7l0uJ4_5NyzOeuZBsC7uoWGMvM

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wishstar

(5,269 posts)
1. Good if previous exposures to coronavirus colds can help ward off Covid 19's effects, but
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jul 2020

I'm skeptical since that contradicts what we're seeing with younger people being less susceptible while older people get more sick from Covid 19 when older folks would have had many more exposures to coronaviruses that cause colds.

Celerity

(43,348 posts)
10. T-Cell response and antibodies are 2 separate things and that 'antibodies are gone after a few
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jul 2020

weeks' is being over-hyped and is simply not true for most people so far. My wife and I have the same levels of antibodies post infection for closing in on 4 months. We are part of a very rigorous study here in Stockholm at Karolinska Universitetssjukhuset. We are hardly unique and are in the vast majority so far according to the many doctors we have spoken to over the past couple months. Our taking part in the study is our way of trying to help to end this pandemic. We donate plasma as well.

here is another article on T-cells and COVID-19

Immunity to COVID-19 is probably higher than tests have shown

https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown

New research from Karolinska Institutet and Karolinska University Hospital shows that many people with mild or asymptomatic COVID-19 demonstrate so-called T-cell-mediated immunity to the new coronavirus, even if they have not tested positively for antibodies. According to the researchers, this means that public immunity is probably higher than antibody tests suggest. The article is freely available on the bioRxiv server and has been submitted for publication in a scientific journal. “T cells are a type of white blood cells that are specialised in recognising virus-infected cells, and are an essential part of the immune system,” says Marcus Buggert, assistant professor at the Center for Infectious Medicine, Karolinska Institutet, and one of the paper’s main authors. “Advanced analyses have now enabled us to map in detail the T-cell response during and after a COVID-19 infection. Our results indicate that roughly twice as many people have developed T-cell immunity compared with those who we can detect antibodies in.”

In the present study, the researchers performed immunological analyses of samples from over 200 people, many of whom had mild or no symptoms of COVID-19. The study included inpatients at Karolinska University Hospital and other patients and their exposed asymptomatic family members who returned to Stockholm after holidaying in the Alps in March. Healthy blood donors who gave blood during 2020 and 2019 (control group) were also included.

T-cell immunity in asymptomatic individuals

Consultant Soo Aleman and her colleagues at Karolinska University Hospital’s infection clinic have monitored and tested patients and their families since the disease period. “One interesting observation was that it wasn’t just individuals with verified COVID-19 who showed T-cell immunity but also many of their exposed asymptomatic family members,” says Soo Aleman. “Moreover, roughly 30 per cent of the blood donors who’d given blood in May 2020 had COVID-19-specific T cells, a figure that’s much higher than previous antibody tests have shown.” The T-cell response was consistent with measurements taken after vaccination with approved vaccines for other viruses. Patients with severe COVID-19 often developed a strong T-cell response and an antibody response; in those with milder symptoms it was not always possible to detect an antibody response, but despite this many still showed a marked T-cell response.

Very good news from a public health perspective

“Our results indicate that public immunity to COVID-19 is probably significantly higher than antibody tests have suggested,” says Professor Hans-Gustaf Ljunggren at the Center for Infectious Medicine, Karolinska Institutet, and co-senior author. “If this is the case, it is of course very good news from a public health perspective.” T-cell analyses are more complicated to perform than antibody tests and at present are therefore only done in specialised laboratories, such as that at the Center for Infectious Medicine at Karolinska Institutet. “Larger and more longitudinal studies must now be done on both T cells and antibodies to understand how long-lasting the immunity is and how these different components of COVID-19 immunity are related,” says Marcus Buggert.

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Publication

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.29.174888v1

“Robust T cell immunity in convalescent individuals with asymptomatic or mild COVID-19”

Takuya Sekine, André Perez-Potti, Olga Rivera-Ballesteros, Jean-Baptiste Gorin, Annika Olsson, Habiba Kamal, Sian Llewellyn-Lacey, David Wulliman, Tobias Kamann, Gordana Bogdanovic, Sandra Muschiol, Elin Folkesson, Olav Rooyackers, Lars I. Eriksson, Anders Sönnerborg, Tobias Allander, Jan Albert, Morten Nielsen, Kristoffer Strålin, Sara Gredmark-Russ, Niklas K. Björkström, Johan K. Sandberg, David A. Price, Hans-Gustaf Ljunggren, Soo Aleman, Marcus Buggert, Karolinska COVID-19 Study Group.
bioRxiv, online 29 June 2020, doi: 10.1101/2020.06.29.174888




Shermann

(7,413 posts)
17. Interesting info, thanks
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jul 2020

The reports have been very contradictory on this, even when you remove the "alternative facts" people from the conversation.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
6. People latch on to rare cases.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jul 2020

For instance some people have less effective immune systems and sometimes fail to develop resistance to other diseases via vaccine. A case of "secondary" infection could just be one of those people.

cojoel

(957 posts)
8. T Cells and Antibodies from B Cells are different parts of our adaptive immune response system
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:57 PM
Jul 2020

The article in the OP here is about T-cell response, where most of the articles of low duration immunity is regarding antibodies.

This article talks about both types of response.

https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/if-antibodies-fall-short-of-covid-19-immunity-call-the-t-cells-abeb5cae6832

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
3. South Korea Health dept concluded that risk of reinfection is negligible to none
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jul 2020

lots of false positive - dead virus that can stay in the body for many weeks and can be determined positive by pcr. They are one of the most successful countries when it comes to covid so I trust them more than cdc.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
7. Thats been my laymen's POV
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jul 2020

Few if any considered that in the thread the other day. They went straight for the melodramatic doom.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
15. in California, if you test positive, you will be quarantined
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 02:01 AM
Jul 2020

for 14 days if no symptoms. 14 days start from 2 days before the specimen is collected. In some cases there is less than a week of quarantine cause it takes 3-5 days to get the results. They don’t repeat the test because it will be positive due to the remnants. Contact tracing becomes meaningless with such a huge gap. We need 24 hrs results if we are serious about contract tracing.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
11. K&R
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:05 PM
Jul 2020

I hope it is not like the cold virus with constant mutations.

About the only thing I have been susceptible to is colds, some of which are caused by coronaviruses. I don’t know if that helps or hurts my chances of getting COVID.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
13. There are also hundreds of cold viruses.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 01:17 AM
Jul 2020

Its not like it’s just 1 or 5 viruses. It’s hundreds, and that makes a cold vaccine that much harder. The other factor is no one gets seriously ill, so no pressing need or funds behind it.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
16. Could be more good news
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 02:20 AM
Jul 2020

And yes, since there are so many cold viruses, guess catching 1 per year is not unusual.

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