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mahina

(17,646 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:07 PM Jul 2020

Why can't trump just start working on Covid, getting US companies making ppe & testing?

It’s obvious that failing us on this scale is going to lose him a lot of voters. Even if he only cares about himself which is clearly true, why won’t he do what is necessary here?

It’s way past trying to hide the fact that there’s a problem. The problem has escalated to the point that nobody rational doesn’t see it. The only way he’s going to get this under control is getting enough protective equipment and testing happening at scale and right away. Why won’t he do that?

Is he really trying to kill us?

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Why can't trump just start working on Covid, getting US companies making ppe & testing? (Original Post) mahina Jul 2020 OP
Yes, he really is trying to kill us. murielm99 Jul 2020 #1
To do that, he would have to admit that he was wrong. Impossible. NT enough Jul 2020 #2
I really think it's that simple. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #16
Yes. His brain won't allow it. brush Jul 2020 #26
he's bdamomma Jul 2020 #3
it's all about how he could profit JI7 Jul 2020 #5
defective seems... sprinkleeninow Jul 2020 #25
The only reason he's not doing the right things is because he does not want to. RockRaven Jul 2020 #4
Instructions from his boss putin. Easier than paying the taliban and it destroys our economy mucifer Jul 2020 #6
Yup SheltieLover Jul 2020 #19
Because he really doesn't know how to do anything catrose Jul 2020 #7
This too. He's failed at everything in life. Lost the hundreds of millions of his father's money... brush Jul 2020 #28
Then he would be admitting it happened under his watch spanone Jul 2020 #8
That's a great question. Is he really in deep denial? soothsayer Jul 2020 #9
... Nevilledog Jul 2020 #17
maybe he wants to bdamomma Jul 2020 #10
All roads lead to Putin. n/t ariadne0614 Jul 2020 #11
It's obvious, he's really trying to kill us. He's vicious evil scum. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2020 #12
Trump has a binary view of the world. Yavin4 Jul 2020 #13
Because he's too damn lazy to care. Initech Jul 2020 #14
It's "The Art of the Deal", He's been feathering his post presidency retirement account from day one Alex4Martinez Jul 2020 #15
What's in it for him? IcyPeas Jul 2020 #18
he works for Putin, not America Skittles Jul 2020 #20
I've been asking this question for weeks and never gotten a good answer Sucha NastyWoman Jul 2020 #21
Yes. That could've been done months ago. Manufacturing those N95 masks is not rocket science. brush Jul 2020 #29
He felt that DPA was absolutely essentially Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #32
Maybe he can't walk and chew gum at the same time but our manufacturing companies can... brush Jul 2020 #33
Trump is Joker from Dark Knight, the stupid version who wants to see it burn down uponit7771 Jul 2020 #22
"Some men just want to watch the world burn." Initech Jul 2020 #31
He is under the delusion that if enough people are sick not_the_one Jul 2020 #23
I don't understand. He could have tried in March, and even if he failed, people would respond. dawg day Jul 2020 #24
HE WORKS FOR PUTIN GeorgeGist Jul 2020 #27
He doesn't want more testing MiniMe Jul 2020 #30
Largest surgical face mask producer in US turned down CozyMystery Jul 2020 #34
Whoa. So yes. mahina Jul 2020 #38
Trump? Work? struggle4progress Jul 2020 #35
The sadly ironic thing is Dorian Gray Jul 2020 #36
If he did that he would have to admit there is a problem. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2020 #37

mucifer

(23,533 posts)
6. Instructions from his boss putin. Easier than paying the taliban and it destroys our economy
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jul 2020

all good for putin.

brush

(53,771 posts)
28. This too. He's failed at everything in life. Lost the hundreds of millions of his father's money...
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:37 PM
Jul 2020

he cheated his siblings out of, went bankrupt running casinos for God's sake. Then had to go to the Russkies to get funded because American banks won't lend to him anymore because he doesn't pay back his debts. That scripted reality show is the only reason the dumb half of this country thought he was a successful business tycoon, and in reality, that is "fake news", to use his own parlance.

You're right. He doesn't know how to but thinks he can weasel his way through as he's done his whole miserable life.

spanone

(135,827 posts)
8. Then he would be admitting it happened under his watch
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jul 2020

as he said, he takes responsibility for NOTHING.

FUCK HIM

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
9. That's a great question. Is he really in deep denial?
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:20 PM
Jul 2020

Does he truly believe it’s a hoax?

Does Pence feed him a bunch of nonsense about all the supplies they have and how governors are happy?

Do they have supplies and tests they’re sitting on and the prez is unaware Jared is not distributing them?

Does he still think hospital workers are stealing them?

Is he actually trying to kill us because Putin wants him to?

Is he being played by Putin but unaware?

Is he just criminally stupid?

Does he really think it will just magically disappear?

Does he think it will hurt the rocket ship economic recovery if he has to acknowledge the virus is running wild?

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
10. maybe he wants to
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jul 2020

kill Americans and have Russians take over the country. Paranoid answer, but you never know about this maniac case.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
13. Trump has a binary view of the world.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:30 PM
Jul 2020

1. Things that helps him win re-election.
2. Things that hurt him from winning re-election.

He sees the virus in the 2nd category. He's incapable of seeing it any other way.

Initech

(100,064 posts)
14. Because he's too damn lazy to care.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jul 2020

He's got his marching orders from AM hate radio and Fox News, and the only thing he cares about is what's good for him, the rest of us don't matter.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
15. It's "The Art of the Deal", He's been feathering his post presidency retirement account from day one
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:33 PM
Jul 2020

So he cut deals to allow mask and ventilator makers to do so at maximum profit.

He put an oil man in the department of energy, wife of Blackwater in as Secty of Education.

There's nothing he does that can't be tied directly to making rich friends richer.

And that's why he's not doing much for votes.

I think.

IcyPeas

(21,859 posts)
18. What's in it for him?
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:50 PM
Jul 2020

He doesn't give a shit about people dying. Only if he can profit somehow.

It's all just a game to him.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
21. I've been asking this question for weeks and never gotten a good answer
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jul 2020

Why hasn’t Exceptional America managed to produce N95 masked for EVERYONE by now?

brush

(53,771 posts)
29. Yes. That could've been done months ago. Manufacturing those N95 masks is not rocket science.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:46 PM
Jul 2020

We and all the medical professionals could all have been wearing those for months and the virus would've been defeated, that is if we had a president with enough brains to realize that all he had to do was to deploy the Defense Production Act, get the masks assembly lines going and of course, wear a fucking mask in leading by example.

We don't have that president as there was nothing in it for him.

brush

(53,771 posts)
33. Maybe he can't walk and chew gum at the same time but our manufacturing companies can...
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jul 2020

do more than one thing at a time. We've got the worst president ever at the worse possible time who can't think beyond meat plants?

We are so screwed.

I can't...I just can't take this much longer.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
23. He is under the delusion that if enough people are sick
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jul 2020

he will have an excuse to delay or cancel the election, at which point he will have to invoke martial law to keep us peasants "under control". His cultists will gush orgasmically at his power and maniliness.

Even better, let's force the kids back into school so they can infect each other, their teachers and staff, their parents, and all their family members.

Towards that end, he has delayed every logical response to a pandemic, letting it fester and infect, PREVENTING PPE from being available, PREVENTING tests from being available, so he can ANNOUNCE the vaccine in October, when everyone will say WHEW! JUST IN TIME, have ANOTHER orgasm and re-elect him.

As I said... MASSIVELY delusional.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
24. I don't understand. He could have tried in March, and even if he failed, people would respond.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jul 2020

He keeps bragging ad nauseum about how 5 months ago he (belatedly) stopped some flights from China.
But he doesn't even bother to lie and say he's done anything since.

And if he'd just tried, well, it might have worked at least a little, and people would think better of him. He must have been getting advice from his advisors to do something.

And he just didn't. He also lied and lied and blamed Obama (!). But he also didn't do the smallest thing to make this better. He could even start now. But he won't.
He stopped having those loony "briefings" months ago, which were insane, but at least he could pretend he was "educating' Americans. And then he quit even that.

Maybe he really does want to lose in November.

Or maybe he gets sadistic pleasure with every death.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
30. He doesn't want more testing
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:48 PM
Jul 2020

He thinks that more testing means more positive tests. I really don't think that he gets that if people are positive, they are positive, regardless of if they are tested or not. The only difference is you know about it if they are tested.

CozyMystery

(652 posts)
34. Largest surgical face mask producer in US turned down
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 05:13 AM
Jul 2020

A Texas medical supply company told the federal government it could make 1.7 million N95 masks for the US per week — but no order came.

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavirus-us-response-trump/2020/5/10/21253689/covid-19-masks-trump-white-house-prestige-ameritech

"The Post reports Mike Bowen, owner of the largest surgical face mask producer in the US — Prestige Ameritech in Texas — contacted top officials in the Department of Health and Human Services on January 22, the day after the first US coronavirus cases were identified.

His pitch: Provide the funds needed to dust off four dormant manufacturing lines, and his firm would produce 1.7 million N95 masks every week. According to Bowen, he’d been raising the alarm for years that the US was too dependent on foreign countries (where nearly 90 percent of masks used in the country come from) for production, and argued his manufacturing lines offered both a way around that, and to ensure the US would have the masks it needed.

Rick Bright — the former director of HHS’s Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (who was ousted in April, and later filed a whistleblower complaint alleging he was demoted for fighting for science-based preparations “over political expediency”) — pushed top HHS officials to accept Bowen’s offer, to no avail. Prestige Ameritech later exported a million masks to China. The Post reports Mike Bowen, owner of the largest surgical face mask producer in the US — Prestige Ameritech in Texas — contacted top officials in the Department of Health and Human Services on January 22, the day after the first US coronavirus cases were identified.

His pitch: Provide the funds needed to dust off four dormant manufacturing lines, and his firm would produce 1.7 million N95 masks every week. According to Bowen, he’d been raising the alarm for years that the US was too dependent on foreign countries (where nearly 90 percent of masks used in the country come from) for production, and argued his manufacturing lines offered both a way around that, and to ensure the US would have the masks it needed.

Rick Bright — the former director of HHS’s Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (who was ousted in April, and later filed a whistleblower complaint alleging he was demoted for fighting for science-based preparations “over political expediency”) — pushed top HHS officials to accept Bowen’s offer, to no avail. Prestige Ameritech later exported a million masks to China."

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
36. The sadly ironic thing is
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 06:49 AM
Jul 2020

if he had come out strong from the beginning and done this, he may have handily won re-election. I hate the man, and I couldn't have predicted how incredibly horribly and negligently he and his admin would have handled this mess. It's a shitshow.

So, he's dug in his heels and will never admit he's wrong. Therefore, he can't reverse course. I don't think he or Jared would know how to.

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