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[awesomerwb1]

1. RIH

Rest in hell

[Leghorn21]

2. Wtf one year

No no no god almighty one YEAR

NO

[brush]

18. Barr/trump have been given a year to figure out how to kill her.

No bail and they know just where she is. I'm thinking they'll covid her. Suiciding her like they did Epstein would be too obvious and suspect.

[empedocles]

3. Game on

[Silent3]

4. Will she remain alive in jail that long?

I'm sure a lot of people don't want her to start talking.

[qazplm135]

5. ordinarily against denying bail to anyone

but the lack of an extradition treaty and vast wealth make this an acceptable exception.

[Baclava]

6. Ghislaine did not kill herself?

[bamagal62]

7. That's a long time.

[SWBTATTReg]

8. Good. I hope she suffers being that she shopped kids out to her $millionaire / $billionaire friends

[gristy]

9. 2021? That makes no sense - See "The Speedy Trial Act of 1974"

There's a 70-day limit, though it does appear that certain things have to happen before the 70-day clock starts ticking.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-628-speedy-trial-act-1974

Title I of the Speedy Trial Act of 1974, 88 Stat. 2080, as amended August 2, 1979, 93 Stat. 328, is set forth in 18 U.S.C. §§ 3161-3174. The Act establishes time limits for completing the various stages of a federal criminal prosecution. The information or indictment must be filed within 30 days from the date of arrest or service of the summons. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(b). Trial must commence within 70 days from the date the information or indictment was filed, or from the date the defendant appears before an officer of the court in which the charge is pending, whichever is later. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(c)(1).

Moreover, in order to ensure that defendants are not rushed to trial without an adequate opportunity to prepare, Congress amended the Act in 1979 to provide a minimum time period during which trial may not commence. Speedy Trial Act Amendments of 1979, Pub. L. No. 96-43, Section 3, 93 Stat. 327. Thus, the Act provides that trial may not begin less than 30 days from the date the defendant first appears in court, unless the defendant agrees in writing to an earlier date. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(c)(2). In United States v. Rojas-Contreras, 474 U.S. 231 (1985), the Supreme Court held that this 30-day trial preparation period is not restarted upon the filing of a substantially similar superseding indictment.

If the indictment is dismissed at the defendant's request, the Act's provisions apply anew upon reinstatement of the charge. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(d)(1). If the indictment is dismissed at the request of the government, the 70-day clock is tolled during the period when no indictment is outstanding, and begins to run again upon the filing of the second indictment. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(6). If trial ends in a mistrial, or the court grants a motion for a new trial, the second trial must begin within 70 days "from the date the action occasioning the retrial becomes final." 18 U.S.C. § 3161(e).

Certain pretrial delays are automatically excluded from the Act's time limits, such as delays caused by pretrial motions. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(F). In Henderson v. United States, 476 U.S. 321, 330 (1986), the Supreme Court held that § 3161(h)(1)(F) excludes "all time between the filing of a motion and the conclusion of the hearing on that motion, whether or not a delay in holding that hearing is 'reasonably necessary.'" The Act also excludes a reasonable period (up to 30 days) during which a motion is actually "under advisement" by the court. 18 U.S.C. § 3161 (h)(1)(J). Other delays excluded from the Act's time limits include delays caused by the unavailability of the defendant or an essential witness (18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(3)); delays attributable to a co-defendant (18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(7)); and delays attributable to the defendant's involvement in other proceedings, including delay resulting from an interlocutory appeal. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(E). (Note, however, that the 30-day defense preparation period provided for in § 3161(c)(2) is calculated without reference to the Section 3161(h) exclusions).

A defendant may not expressly waive his rights under the Speedy Trial Act. See, e.g., United States v. Saltzman, 984 F.2d 1087, 1090-1092 (10th Cir. 1993). However, if the trial judge determines that the "ends of justice" served by a continuance outweigh the interest of the public and the defendant in a speedy trial, the delay occasioned by such continuance is excluded from the Act's time limits. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(8)(A). The judge must set forth, orally or in writing, his reasons for granting the continuance. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(8)(A). The government should never rely on a defendant's unilateral waiver of his rights under the Act. The government should make sure that the judge enters an "ends of justice" continuance and that he sets forth his reasons for doing so.

The Act provides a sanction of dismissal for violation of its time limits that may be with or without prejudice to reprosecution. In assessing whether dismissal should be with prejudice, the court must consider the seriousness of the offense, the circumstances leading to dismissal, and the impact that reprosecution would have on the administration of the Act and on the administration of justice. 18 U.S.C. § 3161(a)(1)-(a)(2). In United States v. Taylor, 487 U.S. 326 (1988), the Supreme Court held that a trial court must examine each statutory factor in deciding to dismiss charges with prejudice. The Court in Taylor found that a minor violation of the time limitations of the act that did not prejudice the defendant's trial preparation did not justify the dismissal with prejudice of an indictment charging serious drug offenses.

While a defendant cannot unilaterally waive his rights under the Speedy Trial Act, he can forfeit his right to obtain a dismissal of the case for a claimed violation of the Act by failing to move for dismissal prior to trial. The statute provides that "[f]ailure of the defendant to move for dismissal prior to trial * * * shall constitute a waiver of the right to dismissal under this section." 18 U.S.C. § 3162(a)(2).

The Speedy Trial Act is inapplicable to juvenile delinquency proceedings, which have their own speedy trial provision. See 18 U.S.C. § 5036 (speedy trial provision of the Juvenile Delinquency Act). Furthermore, the Interstate Agreement on Detainers (IAD) provides its own time limits for persons incarcerated in other jurisdictions. See 18 U.S.C. Appendix 2, § 2, Articles III-VI. In such a case, the government must comply with both the time limits of the IAD and the Speedy Trial Act.

Case law governing the Speedy Trial Act is found in West's Federal Practice Digest 3d, Criminal Law, at Key Numbers 577.1-586. The legislative history is found in S. Rep. No. 1021, 93d Cong., 2d Sess. (1974); H.R. Rep. No. 1508, 93d Cong., 2d Sess., reprinted in 1974 U.S. Code. Cong. and Ad. News 7401; S. Rep. No. 212, 96th Cong., 1st Sess. (1979); H.R. Rep. No. 390, 96th Cong., 1st Sess., reprinted in 1979 U.S. Code Cong. and Ad. News 805. These reports are contained in a one-volume legislative history of the Act, prepared by the Federal Judicial Center, which was previously distributed to all United States Attorneys' Offices.

Additional resource tools are 1) the Guidelines to the Administration of the Speedy Trial Act of 1974 as Amended (revised December 1979), which was prepared by the Committee on the Administration of Criminal law of the Judicial Conference of the United States (Judicial Conference Guidelines), and distributed to all United States Attorneys' Offices; and 2) the guidelines adopted by the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (Second Circuit Guidelines). A good overview of the Speedy Trial Act (including cases interpreting the Act), and of a defendant's constitutional speedy trial rights in general, is provided in Twenty-Fifth Annual Review of Criminal Procedure, 84 Georgetown Law Journal 1022-1039 (April 1996). Additionally, the Appellate Section of the Criminal Division is available for assistance in interpreting the Act.

A defendant's right to a speedy trial has constitutional and statutory underpinnings in addition to the Speedy Trial Act. Federal statutes of limitations provide a time frame within which charges must be filed. Moreover, Rule 48, Fed. R. Crim. P., grants trial courts discretion to dismiss cases that are not brought to trial promptly. See Rule 48(b), Fed. R. Crim. P. (authorizing trial court to dismiss indictment if there is "unnecessary delay" in presenting the charge to a grand jury, in filing an information, or in bringing a defendant to trial).

Even if a charge is brought within the period provided by the statute of limitations, a defendant may be able to show that preaccusation delay has violated his Fifth Amendment due process rights. To obtain a dismissal of the charges by reason of pre-indictment delay, a defendant has the burden of establishing that the government engaged in intentional delay to gain a tactical advantage, and that he suffered actual prejudice. United States v. Lovasco, 431 U.S. 783 (1977); United States v. Marion, 404 U.S. 307, 324 (1971).

A defendant's rights under the Speedy Trial Clause of the Sixth Amendment are triggered by "either a formal indictment or information or else the actual restraints imposed by arrest and holding to answer a criminal charge." United States v. Marion, 404 U.S. 307, 320 (1971). (As noted above, any delay before this time must be scrutinized under the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment, not the Sixth Amendment's Speedy Trial Clause. United States v. MacDonald, 456 U.S. 1, 7 (1982)). In Barker v. Wingo, 407 U.S. 514 (1972), the Supreme Court set out a four-factor test for determining whether delay between the initiation of criminal proceedings and the beginning of trial violates a defendant's Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial. The test requires the court to consider the length of the delay, the cause of the delay, the defendant's assertion of his right to a speedy trial, and the presence or absence of prejudice resulting from the delay. Barker, 407 U.S. at 530-533.

In United States v. Loud Hawk, 474 U.S. 302 (1986), where the reason for the 90-month delay (interlocutory appeals) did not weigh against the government, the Supreme Court held that the possibility of prejudice occasioned by the delay was not sufficient to establish a Sixth Amendment speedy trial violation. Moreover, the courts of appeals routinely reject Sixth Amendment speedy trial challenges in the absence of a showing of prejudice. See, e.g., United States v. Tannehill, 49 F.3d 1049, 1054 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 116 S. Ct. 167 (1995); United States v. Baker, 63 F.3d 1478, 1497 (9th Cir. 1995), cert. denied, 116 S. Ct. 824 (1996). However, in Doggett v. United States, 505 U.S. 647 (1992), the Supreme Court held that an "extraordinary" eight-and-one-half-year delay between the defendant's indictment and arrest, which resulted from the government's "egregious persistence in failing to prosecute [him]," violated his right to a speedy trial even in the absence of "affirmative proof of particularized prejudice." Doggett, 505 U.S. at 652, 655, 657.

Where there are successive state and federal prosecutions, the general rule is that the federal constitutional speedy trial right does not arise until a federal accusation against the defendant is made. Thus, a prior state arrest based on the same facts as the subsequent federal charge does not implicate the federal constitutional guarantee. United States v. Walker, 710 F.2d 1062, 1069 (5th Cir. 1983), cert. denied, 465 U.S. 1005 (1984).

[Sherman A1]

11. We live in a Covid 19 shaped world now

Everything is moving much more slowly.

[StarfishSaver]

16. The 70-day time limit is tolled while pre-trial motions are being made

Here's the pre-trial schedule:

Completion of discovery due by Monday, November 9, 2020
Defense Motions due by December 21, 2020
Government response January 22, 2021
Defense Reply due by February 5, 2021
Tentative trial date: July 12, 2021

This timing is not unusual in a case this complicated. It looks like, in setting a trial date (which is tentative), the judge allowed for possible additional time needed after the motions are ruled upon in case additional motions need to be filed. And, from what I can tell, Maxwell's attorneys agreed to this schedule without objection.

[Leghorn21]

20. Thanks much, Star - I figured it was about the usual amount of time to unravel this disgusting

hellscape, but I was mad nevertheless!!!! - thanks for your chill pill!

[FM123]

22. Thanks StarfishSaver for that schedule!

I am wondering something...
Once set, is the completion of discovery due date of Nov 9 set in stone? Can that be extended for any reason - like if (WHEN) trump loses on Nov 3 and Maxwell decides she just remembered something criminal about Trump & Epstein that she wants to add because she is not afraid to throw him under the bus anymore?

[StarfishSaver]

24. The judge can always extend the discovery deadline

It happens all the time, especially since discovery often leads to more evidence that must then be discovered ...

[FM123]

26. Great!

[fleur-de-lisa]

10. So the judge didn't go for her request to hang out in a luxury hotel suite? I'm shocked!

[stillcool]

12. easy pickings...

with a lot of room for error.

[lpbk2713]

13. That should allow ample time for her to be suicided.

And I don't doubt it will happen before January.

[cwydro]

14. The replies on this thread make me realize how many don't believe in "innocent until proven guilty.

I agree she seems to be a nasty piece of work, but does not everyone deserve that right?

What has happened to DU?

[Goodheart]

15. Wouldn't the best way to protect her own life be to name names NOW?

Just spill the beans. No need for the guilty to then kill you, except for revenge.

[Ilsa]

17. Plenty of time for one of her former customers

to find a way to slip someone with a noose into the prison system. Or maybe find her weak spot. I wonder if she would change her name to Pentangelo?

[Tarheel_Dem]

19. It sure would've been great to hear from her before the elections. n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

21. If the Judge had granted bail,

30 minutes later, her hired car would pull up at Teterboro Airport in NJ. A private plane would be ready. She would likely fly to France where there is no extradition treaty with the U.S. The End.

[Cha]

23. And, the fact that she was hiding and attempted to

run when the FBI had breached her hideaway property.

[Nature Man]

25. Here's hoping

the security cameras in her jail are in good working order.