Elizabeth Warren and the Biden Veepstakes

[TexasTowelie]

On Friday morning, we published my piece on Joe Biden’s surprisingly good Made in America plan. I could not help noticing that it looked a lot like Elizabeth Warren’s Economic Patriotism plan of a year ago. And though I had no official confirmation, I wrote that Warren must have had something to do with Biden’s plan.

On Friday afternoon, both Biden and Warren confirmed her involvement. Biden wrote a letter to the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, a PAC close to Warren, crediting her role. And then Warren, in a CNN interview later on Friday, complimented Biden and his economic team, and acknowledged her own involvement.

Well, well. There are lots of ways to interpret this. One is that Biden is taking full advantage of Warren to send signals to reassure the grassroots left. Another is that Warren is truly playing a major substantive role.

Either way, one must conclude that despite the drumbeat that Biden has to name a Black running mate, Warren is still very much in it. In a recent piece for Slate, Julia Craven, who is African American, wrote that Warren is the best candidate for VP to advance a racial-justice agenda. Jamelle Bouie has made similar arguments in the Times.

Read more: https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/elizabeth-warren-and-the-biden-veepstakes/
(American Prospect)

[lagomorph777]

1. I was a Warren supporter for a long time but we have to hold the Senate.

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. It's a myth that Warren as VP puts the senate at risk

As they have in the past, MA Dem legislators can force Gov. to appoint a Dem replacement.

[Wanderlust988]

18. Gov. Baker could easily run and would probably win

That's very possible!

[elleng]

2. Of course she's 'in it,'

at least insofar as contributing actively to the shape of his campaign and later, I expect, his administration, either from inside or 'just' outside.

[LizBeth]

3. I am all in for Warren. I truly believe she has what we need, right here and now.

[BComplex]

5. I'm with you LizBeth! Warren is the best person for the job. In a recent poll of Black Americans,

Warren won over Harris, Rice, Abrams, and all the other potential candidates. I like Rice second best, but Warren is far and away my choice for who can help Biden get this mess turned around in real time.

[LizBeth]

7. I like Rice as second too. I would like Harris in like AG, because I think that is her strength.

[Budi]

22. I seriously doubt the source of such a poll. It flips opposite from every other poll I have read.

It's not going to be Warren.

[Budi]

4. As he's looking to advance the 2024/28 Presidency for the Democratic Party, his VP cannot be Warren.

The America Biden seeks to secure will be a launch pad for future generations.
He then passes that trusted torch to his choice for President in 2024 or 2028, the VP who has worked closely by his side, who represents all that was made new & solid for America under his careful watch.

This is why Sen Warren will play an important role along with many other wise contributors in shaping America's new future, but she can not be his VP, his choice to lead beyond his tenure.

He will not choose Warren as VP.

[BComplex]

6. I totally disagree. I know that there is a great deal of prejudice against people in their 70's

but we're not dead yet, and people have to quit acting like we're all on our last legs, like we have no future.

[calguy]

9. No, we're not dead yet

but it's time we passed the torch to the next generation. There's a whole new batch of well qualified leaders waiting in the wings to shape THEIR own future. We've had our time, now let's let them have theirs.

[PTWB]

11. Ridiculous.

Both Biden and Trump are already pushing the age envelop. Biden will be 78 when he takes office in January. He will be 82 in 2024 and if he was elected again he’d be 86 when he leaves office after a second term.

The fact that there are physical and cognitive declines that come with age is just that - a fact. It is not derogatory or ageist or anything else.

Biden needs to set his Presidency up as a springboard for the next generation of Democratic politicians.

[BComplex]

15. That is not a "fact". It is BS. Many people are still sharper at 89 than some people are at 29.

And I've known many of them. There are some people who are old at 50. There are others who are young at 90. It all depends on the person. Biden may be old by the time he gets in office. Warren is not even starting to get old.

YOU CANNOT GENERALIZE ABOUT PEOPLE based on color, sex, age, religion, level of education attained, or even physical prowess. There is a HUGE difference in people based on all of those criteria, or most any other criteria you can come up with.

[Budi]

16. Oh good lord. He will choose a VP that represents & can carry America forward

It's not about age. It's more about who carries his legacy of rebuilding a more solid future.

Its not Warren.
Nor is it who I prefer but I get where Biden is going with his VP selection.

That person has to represent where his 4 or 8 year term leaves off. His legacy will be the foundation he rebuilds America upon.
He will choose someone who offers a solid trust that his legacy will be forever honored. Righting historic wrongs of the US's past & laying a new floor to build from.

I think Mayor Buttigieg would have made an excellent VP. A person Biden could have mentored into the position of Leader of the Free World one day.
And yes, there are a few who also fit that role so well.

[pattyloutwo]

8. Yes, she can!

She can be prez in 2024, and pass the torch to her Veep in 2028, like Biden is doing!

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. Actually, you make the perfect case why she should be VP - to carry the torch in 2024 nt

[Budi]

17. Nope. She's not carrying the torch forward for the future Biden's got in mind.

She & many others have a role in creating it. But to step in where Biden leaves off is not one designed for Warren..

Please.
He may as well choose Hillary Clinton. She comes with more creds on her resume than Warren afterall.

Its not going to be either of them btw
Why ever would he?

[Thekaspervote]

20. I hope you are right.

reasons
1. I just don’t think she’s that big of draw. She did not preform well in the primary, did not even carry her home state
2. looking to 2024 (if Biden does not run) and beyond, she will be Biden’s age in 4 yrs
3. A POC would lock in that voting block...having said that I include Sen Tammy
Duckworth.

[pattyloutwo]

12. Here is the Slate piece

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/the-case-for-elizabeth-warren-for-vp.html

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. Warren walks the walk - from the article:

Where most of the Democratic presidential field supported racial justice and progressive ideals in general terms, palatable to a mainstream audience, Warren offered a platform specifically and explicitly designed to aid Black Americans in overcoming the consequences of racism. Alleviating inequality, particularly as experienced by Black people, was at the root of Warren’s policy proposals, in a way few of her well-meaning opponents could match.

Much more detail at the link in previous post.

[Budi]

19. There are many accomplished & brilliant Dems who have also walked the walk.

Biden's not choosing Warren.
That future torch will never be hers. But yes, she will have a hand in it's design
Face it.

It belongs to the future seers, the one Biden will mentor until he's confident.
Like a Jedi.
Yup.
Joe's the Jedi. ..💙

[Thekaspervote]

21. Well said!

[Budi]

23. Jedi to Jedi, they have already chosen the future torchbearer.

We will all know in due time.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

24. I wish he would choose her.

If it's okay for 77 year old Biden to be running this year, it should be just fine for a 75 year old Elizabeth Warren to be running in 2024.

My fear is that Biden will bow to those who are insisting on a woman of color for VP. Then we'll really see how deep and wide racism is in this country.