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brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:11 AM Jul 2020

Without waiter jobs, what happens to creative New York?

New York Daily News

NEW YORK (AP) — It’s been the story for many a starry-eyed creative type looking for a big break in the Big Apple — wait tables to pay the bills while auditioning, performing, singing, painting, dancing, writing, whatever it takes to make the dreams of success come true.

But there's been a plot twist, thanks to the coronavirus putting food servers out of work in recent months as restaurants were forced to shut down their dine-in services. And much uncertainty remains over what restaurant dining will look like even as New York City reopens.

Questions of whether there will be enough business for establishments to stay open and even have waiter jobs to fill are causing concern about what that's going to mean for the city's creative class if the jobs that helped them be able to live here and add to the city's artistic culture are no longer readily available.

"It really is a part of the artist's life in New York, so I don't know what that's going to look like if it's just suddenly not an option anymore," said Travis McClung, 28, who has spent close to nine years waiting tables while doing theater, singing and more recently, trying to build his career in video editing and post-production.
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Without waiter jobs, what happens to creative New York? (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
My niece and her husband have been living in my BILs exboyfil Jul 2020 #1
Interesting twist underpants Jul 2020 #2
Hopefully they are spending the last 4 months writing, painting of whatever jimfields33 Jul 2020 #3
They go back to mom and dad's house Nature Man Jul 2020 #4
Backwater hellhole? exboyfil Jul 2020 #8
Give it a rest Nature Man Jul 2020 #9
Amazing enough exboyfil Jul 2020 #11
umm Nature Man Jul 2020 #12
Likely far more "waiter jobs" than auditions these days FBaggins Jul 2020 #5
Waiting and bar tending jobs are a huge part of the economy Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #6
My mom did really well for many years exboyfil Jul 2020 #10
I know bar tenders in big cities who made six figures Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #14
Similar story here in Los Angeles. tinrobot Jul 2020 #7
Left the City 10 years ago Apollo Zeus Jul 2020 #13

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. My niece and her husband have been living in my BILs
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:13 AM
Jul 2020

basement in Iowa for several months now. They are both musicians in New York. Not only are waiter jobs not available, performance and performance support jobs aren't available either. They just got married last year.

jimfields33

(15,763 posts)
3. Hopefully they are spending the last 4 months writing, painting of whatever
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jul 2020

Artistic gift they have. Obviously that depends on if they get the extra 600 a week. Some may not be able to survive if they don’t get unemployment.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
8. Backwater hellhole?
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jul 2020

That kind of elitism is what damages the party. There are good people everywhere.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
11. Amazing enough
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jul 2020

In these back water hell holes we actually do have our own small art museums, community orchestras, and theater troupes.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
12. umm
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jul 2020

youngsters leave their backwater hellholes for NYC because they are backwater hellholes.

Otherwise, they'd stay in bumfuck Midwestistan and do community theater and work at Olive Garden.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
5. Likely far more "waiter jobs" than auditions these days
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:28 AM
Jul 2020

Broadway is close through at least the end of the year.

Johnny2X2X

(19,035 posts)
6. Waiting and bar tending jobs are a huge part of the economy
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jul 2020

Waiting tables is tough work, but if you're good at it and find the right place you can make a decent living doing it. Even more so with bar tending. That is all shut down most places right now.

i know people who've spent their whole lives bar tending and own homes, cars, and put their kids through college on tip money. Really trying times for them right now.

Johnny2X2X

(19,035 posts)
14. I know bar tenders in big cities who made six figures
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jul 2020

I'm in West Michigan and some bar tenders here can make $60K+ a year. But in Chicago and New York, 6 figures if you're good and get into the right spot.

Heck, in Detroit I know a bar tender who worked 2 nights at 1 bar and pocketed $2000 in tips, he was bale to use that money to buy his own bar.

Apollo Zeus

(251 posts)
13. Left the City 10 years ago
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jul 2020

I loved living there in the early 1990s but much of what I loved about it fell away one change at a time.

rents went up
boring banker people moved in
the cheaper ma & pa businesses got priced out
machine gun wielding security forces came in
the dot com boom went bust
cell phones curtailed street interactions

And now the City is losing more big chunks of what made it unique.

The last time I went to Vegas (2008) I stayed in the New York New York hotel. It is like NYC turned into a little theme park. It embraced the uniqueness of NYC but also was sad because it confirmed that NYC isn't like that anymore.

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