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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:32 AM Jul 2020

Experts: Ivanka Trump's endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/experts-ivanka-trumps-endorsement-of-goya-foods-puts-her-in-serious-legal-trouble/

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Government ethics experts across the nation are denouncing Ivanka Trump’s late-night endorsement of Goya Foods as a violation of law – and ethics – especially as it comes just days after the company’s CEO appeared on national television in the Rose Garden of the White House to praise President Donald Trump.

“If it’s Goya, it has to be good,” the First Daughter and Senior Advisor to the President tweeted Tuesday night, with the statement repeated in Spanish. In her tweet Ivanka Trump is displaying a can of Goya black beans by holding it with her right hand and suggestively motioning to it with her left, as many do when endorsing a product.

Ms. Trump’s Goya tweet is clearly a violation of the government’s misuse of position regulation, 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702. Ms. Trump has had ethics training. She knows better. But she did it anyway because no one in this administration cares about government ethics,” Shaub says.


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Experts: Ivanka Trump's endorsement of Goya Foods puts her in serious legal trouble (Original Post) soothsayer Jul 2020 OP
at the state level i hope samsingh Jul 2020 #1
If its a Federal regulation she violated customerserviceguy Jul 2020 #22
Blatant. In our faces. No federal prosecutor will take the case. So, she gets away with it. NCjack Jul 2020 #28
It would be a tough case for a prosecutor customerserviceguy Jul 2020 #30
Quid pro quo. Aristus Jul 2020 #78
I didn't know about that customerserviceguy Jul 2020 #85
Good. n/t Lucinda Jul 2020 #2
Dare I say, "Lock her up?" Laelth Jul 2020 #3
No one cares about ethics, MoonchildCA Jul 2020 #4
True. CentralMass Jul 2020 #12
and no one in this maladministration onethatcares Jul 2020 #14
The first thing Trump did when he sat behind the Resolute desk LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2020 #58
They don't care...and they're flaunting their position Docreed2003 Jul 2020 #5
She is taking her own advice. Scarsdale Jul 2020 #62
Do her teeth glow in the dark Kaiserguy Jul 2020 #77
Lock her up Champp Jul 2020 #6
THIS NRaleighLiberal Jul 2020 #26
If only anyone cared about ethics these days. fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #7
The repubs Do When It's A Democrat nt sfstaxprep Jul 2020 #15
1500 screaming radio stations are the difference certainot Jul 2020 #53
I found 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702 in 5 seconds of work with a search engine. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #8
But the DOJ edhopper Jul 2020 #9
Ah, but there's a statute of limitations. The next AG will have a choice to make. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #17
It's just another day for the Trump crime family dalton99a Jul 2020 #10
It hasn't happened to this White House yet gratuitous Jul 2020 #11
When Democrats get in there, we have to institute serious penalties for this kind of shit. Squinch Jul 2020 #13
Possibly the first time AnnieBW Jul 2020 #16
She's about as smart as a can of beans. Give her credit. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #18
Unfortunately, the people charged with enforcing ethics laws have abdicated their responsibility StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #19
Am I bad for thinking this when I saw Ivankas ad.... IowaGuy Jul 2020 #20
LOL I completely forgot about that scene! VWolf Jul 2020 #29
I agreee... IowaGuy Jul 2020 #42
Ken Russell must have been crazy. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #73
Product placement will be another way of making a buck if he manages to steal a second term. sop Jul 2020 #21
I'll believe the "serious trouble" when I see it. Been there about a thousand times KPN Jul 2020 #23
She has also used a personal email account... Takket Jul 2020 #64
Did the CARAVAN just evaporate or what? maddiemom Jul 2020 #81
She needs to be prosecuted Feb 2021, or else tRump will run her in 2024. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #24
Ask Kenan Thompson swimboy Jul 2020 #25
I somehow doubt she's had ethics training. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #27
Sure she has. Harker Jul 2020 #40
You should see all the takeoffs of that picture on Twitter. George II Jul 2020 #31
They are always in legal trouble but Dios Mio Jul 2020 #32
If one of the Obama ladies had done this PCIntern Jul 2020 #33
Because no one will stop them lame54 Jul 2020 #34
It'll be forgotten by tomorrow. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #35
Yes, even if he has to do something outrageous to distract soothsayer Jul 2020 #36
At this point, these sorts of things come so quickly that he doesn't even need to HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #37
Billy Barr will get right on that maxrandb Jul 2020 #38
I thought it was a photoshop joke .... but it is real Botany Jul 2020 #39
I thought so too. Thunderbeast Jul 2020 #60
Chelsea Handler responds flibbitygiblets Jul 2020 #69
Ivanka's ethics training consisted of her signing off on a form. bluedigger Jul 2020 #41
Maybe that'll be important when we have a fully functioning government again. Iggo Jul 2020 #43
no consequences nothing to see here, just move along about your business... bringthePaine Jul 2020 #44
Ms. Trump has had ethics training. IronLionZion Jul 2020 #45
Ivanka: "If it's Goya, it has to be good." Buns_of_Fire Jul 2020 #46
"serious legal trouble?" ... and her penalty will be? IcyPeas Jul 2020 #47
A lifetime supply of refried beans. miyazaki Jul 2020 #65
It's a crime family....so....what about this guy? spanone Jul 2020 #48
Now I'm sad I'll never taste that chocolate wafer soothsayer Jul 2020 #49
Presidents Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho & Donald Goya Trump muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #51
He'll pardon all his spawn and their SOs, before he leaves office. If he leaves office. Crunchy Frog Jul 2020 #50
She has said that she inherited her moral compass from her dad, Tanuki Jul 2020 #52
Good.. I hope it actually happens & she gets in real Cha Jul 2020 #54
Still.. the BEANS BLEW BACK IN HER Cha Jul 2020 #55
Maybe Catherine Vincent Jul 2020 #56
Ethics?!? In the tRump W House? BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #57
Serious legal trouble if she were a Democrat. warmfeet Jul 2020 #59
What about the impeached Donald J Trump's endorsement? Generic Brad Jul 2020 #61
I think the A # 1 reason for this Squidly Jul 2020 #63
Shaub is 100% in the wrong by saying "no in this administration cares about government ethics". cstanleytech Jul 2020 #66
LA PREFERIDA BRAND IS BETTER, ANYWAY! raging moderate Jul 2020 #67
That deranged smile of his soothsayer Jul 2020 #68
Bill Barr will be right on this conflict of interest... crickets. madinmaryland Jul 2020 #70
I hope she's not watching Stephen Colbert's show tonight. GoCubsGo Jul 2020 #71
Uh, surrrrre... Wawannabe Jul 2020 #72
She's no Carol Merrill. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #74
This is only making people switch over and vote against them and republicans more duforsure Jul 2020 #75
She's done this before. Why is this time different? Nothing will happen to her. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #76
Just another distraction Woodwizard Jul 2020 #79
No, it doesn't. Goodheart Jul 2020 #80
Maybe one day Empowerer Jul 2020 #82
As if Little Princess will suffer a single minute's down-time.... Paladin Jul 2020 #83
I'd love for her to be in serious legal trouble Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #84

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
22. If its a Federal regulation she violated
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jul 2020

how would any state legal system be involved with that?

Besides, I don't know what the penalties are, but I severely doubt that incarceration is one of them. The worst would probably be a fine that is less than the purported value of a handful of the frills that Ivanka markets to stupid people.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
30. It would be a tough case for a prosecutor
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jul 2020

For starters, there would be no trial until way after the election, so that would take away an incentive.

Plus, I doubt that Ivanka and Jared own stock in Goya, so there would be no financial reason for her to do this, and that undercuts a case.

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
78. Quid pro quo.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:08 AM
Jul 2020

The CEO donates to Trump's campaign, the Trumps shill for his company on the taxpayers' dime. How is this not a blatant violation of election law?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
85. I didn't know about that
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jul 2020

I thought that the only thing the CEO did was to say something nice about Trump in public.

In any case, I don't recall anyone going to prison over a violation of a campaign finance law, I seem to recall there only being fines involved. The best prosecutors probably prefer to handle cases that involve some serious punishment, and would leave something like this to an underling, who might not be able to beat someone who the Trumps could afford to hire.

58. The first thing Trump did when he sat behind the Resolute desk
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 07:11 PM
Jul 2020

was to have Jared bring him a dictionary and a Sharpie so he could black out the word "ethics" -- after Ivanka explained to him what the word meant. Then all three shared a good laugh.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
62. She is taking her own advice.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jul 2020

Since she is telling other people who have lost their jobs, to "find something else" she has decided that her job is on the chopping block (Thank you God) and is practicing becoming a spokesmodel for food items. One question do her teeth glow in the dark?

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
77. Do her teeth glow in the dark
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:48 AM
Jul 2020

That's one question to which I don't want the answer. Just the picture of her coming at me in he dark sends chills down my spine.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. I found 5 C.F.R. § 2635.702 in 5 seconds of work with a search engine.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jul 2020

What kind of legal advice is Princess getting?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. It hasn't happened to this White House yet
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jul 2020

Kellyanne Conway has repeatedly broken the law on this, and nothing happened to her. Princess Dumbass has nothing to fear.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
13. When Democrats get in there, we have to institute serious penalties for this kind of shit.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jul 2020

In the past that has been enforced by nothing more than "gentleman's agreement."

And we know that doesn't work.

Fines, public community service, some way to pay back the taxpayer for what they are taking from us every damn day.

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
29. LOL I completely forgot about that scene!
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jul 2020

The movie was horrendous and did NO justice to the music, but that scene must have been fun to film.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
73. Ken Russell must have been crazy.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 03:04 AM
Jul 2020

I saw it in the theater too. If you weren't stoned when you went in, you were stoned when you came out. By Russell's wild direction. No herb needed. I know it's a Christ allegory but I still have not figured out some of the other stuff.

sop

(10,177 posts)
21. Product placement will be another way of making a buck if he manages to steal a second term.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jul 2020

Manufacturers of all manner of goods and services will gain exposure for their products, paying Trump big money to feature them prominently during Part 2 of his presidential reality show, "The Trumps Get Revenge."


KPN

(15,645 posts)
23. I'll believe the "serious trouble" when I see it. Been there about a thousand times
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

in the past almost 4 years. Hasn't she already been here before herself (the bracelet thing)? What happened?

This is getting exhausting. We are just fucked if we don't go after these people if and when we get control of the WH and Senate. If we don't do that, ethics will only be for Democrats and the little people in the future.

Takket

(21,566 posts)
64. She has also used a personal email account...
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jul 2020

Which was, if memory serves, literally the only thing her father ran on in 2016. Well that and minority bashing

Dios Mio

(429 posts)
32. They are always in legal trouble but
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 12:10 PM
Jul 2020

nothing comes of it so they have no fear.
(Hatch act , emoluments) etc.

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
33. If one of the Obama ladies had done this
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jul 2020

The Republicans would be screaming for impeachment and removal immediately.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
37. At this point, these sorts of things come so quickly that he doesn't even need to
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jul 2020

do anything to distract from them anymore - if the day ends in a 'y' then there's another Trump family scandal and we've come to just accept it and move on.

It's truly is incredible to see.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
41. Ivanka's ethics training consisted of her signing off on a form.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

If she even did that. Probably being backdated right now.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
43. Maybe that'll be important when we have a fully functioning government again.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jul 2020

Doesn’t mean shit right now.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
46. Ivanka: "If it's Goya, it has to be good."
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jul 2020

J.M. Smucker Company: "With a name like Smucker's, it has to be good."

SNL: "With names like Dog Vomit and Monkey Pus, this stuff has got to be terrific."

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
51. Presidents Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho & Donald Goya Trump
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 05:16 PM
Jul 2020
'Idiocracy' writer: I never expected my movie 'to become a documentary'



The man behind the 2006 cult sci-fi film “Idiocracy” is lamenting that his fictional movie appears to have become reality.

"I never expected #idiocracy to become a documentary,” tweeted screenwriter Etan Cohen in an apparent jab at the 2016 presidential race.

Together with "Beavis & Butt-head" creator Mike Judge, Cohen co-wrote the time-travel comedy. The plot revolves around the misadventures of a man who wakes up in a futuristic America only to discover that everyone around him, including lawmakers and government officials, is an idiot.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/270642-idiocracy-writer-i-never-expected-my-movie-to-become-a

Oh well, at least a good Lincoln Project ad will come from it. You know their target demographic will be appalled at a president doing commercial endorsements.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
57. Ethics?!? In the tRump W House?
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jul 2020

Surely you jest. Ask Walter Shaub about the long list of ethics violations. I think he is up to 6,894,662 ethic violations for this year alone. "Ethics, schmethics", says team tRump.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
59. Serious legal trouble if she were a Democrat.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jul 2020

As a repiglicon, not so much. She will skate, and she knows it.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
61. What about the impeached Donald J Trump's endorsement?
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jul 2020

That garbage person posed for a photo today with Goya products line up in front of him on the Resolute desk in the Oval Office. Is there a crime against him doing that too?

Squidly

(783 posts)
63. I think the A # 1 reason for this
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jul 2020

Is tRump thinks by endorsing Goya he will lock up the Latino vote. Thats just how shallow this POS is.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
66. Shaub is 100% in the wrong by saying "no in this administration cares about government ethics".
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 08:03 PM
Jul 2020

It is actually no one that remains a Republican after the Republicans in leadership positions like Moscow Mitch have given their consent to everything that Trump has said and done especially after his impeachment when they refused to remove him.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
74. She's no Carol Merrill.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 03:06 AM
Jul 2020

Nor is she Jay with the box.
Yeah, I'm old. Monty Hall was THE BEST! Watched it all the time with my Dad. Hilarious!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
75. This is only making people switch over and vote against them and republicans more
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 05:38 AM
Jul 2020

Its really really pissing people off. Very , very stupid thing to do from her.

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
76. She's done this before. Why is this time different? Nothing will happen to her.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:43 AM
Jul 2020

Plus, this close to the election, I dont care. Going after her NOW will just let them use it a an opportunity to again scream, "See! They just wont stop! They're after Ivanka!"
Just vote them out.

Woodwizard

(842 posts)
79. Just another distraction
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:46 AM
Jul 2020

Get that on the news instead of the Pandemic, Russian bounties, redirecting medical information from the CDC. All the stuff that should be front and center.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
83. As if Little Princess will suffer a single minute's down-time....
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jul 2020

...for this or anything else her crime family does.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
84. I'd love for her to be in serious legal trouble
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jul 2020

but if anything comes of it, it won't be until Trump, et. al are long out of office.

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