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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 05:31 PM Jul 2020

If Trump thinks flying the Rebel flag is a free speech thing does that apply to the NAZI flag too

Trump Claims The Confederate Flag Has Nothing To Do With Slavery
From the article:

Trump was asked by CBS News, “You understand why the flag is a painful symbol for many people because it’s a reminder of slavery.”

Trump answered, “People love it. I know people that love the confederate flag and not thinking of slavery. NASCAR, the flags all over the I think it’s freedom of speech, whether it’s confederate flags or black lives matter or anything else you want to talk about. It’s freedom of speech.”



This is a free country and you're free to wave either one and decent people are free to say you are an awful human being that should be ostracized.
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If Trump thinks flying the Rebel flag is a free speech thing does that apply to the NAZI flag too (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 OP
Yes and heritage also applies etc ... most if not all excuses for CF applies to Nazi Flag uponit7771 Jul 2020 #1
Not in Germany. guillaumeb Jul 2020 #2
Great question! kentuck Jul 2020 #3
Do analogies like this ever convince conservatives to change positions? Shermann Jul 2020 #4
What are the differences? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 #5
The Nazis were traitors, absolutely Shermann Jul 2020 #8
People can fly either one on their property or persons... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #6
Exactly. Midnight Writer Jul 2020 #10
If free speech is so important to him, why doesn't Colin Kaepernick have any? CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #7
I almost got Key mixed up with the man who wrote Amazing Grace. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 #9
I didn't know about that. Thanks for the post. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #12
Of course. There were good people on both sides. not_the_one Jul 2020 #11

Shermann

(7,412 posts)
4. Do analogies like this ever convince conservatives to change positions?
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 05:39 PM
Jul 2020

They don't seem to. They will manufacture differences out of thin air when necessary. In this case, there are actual differences to puff up.

Shermann

(7,412 posts)
8. The Nazis were traitors, absolutely
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jul 2020

They were a criminal regime which committed serious crimes against their own people, and not just the Jews (too many to list).

I don't believe history has judged the Confederacy as a "criminal" regime despite their rebellion and secession.

Both were based on terrible ideologies.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
6. People can fly either one on their property or persons...
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jul 2020

No government agency, federal, state, or local should fly either one.

Government agencies need to stick with the appropriate government flags.

And thank you Mississippi for finally moving into the current century by entertaining changes to your racist rag.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
7. If free speech is so important to him, why doesn't Colin Kaepernick have any?
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jul 2020

And since Francis Scott Key was a slave owner, we should abolish his nonsense anyway.

Let John Fogerty write something more patriotic. He loves this country more than the suits do.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. I almost got Key mixed up with the man who wrote Amazing Grace.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jul 2020

He was a slave owner who became an abolitionist.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
12. I didn't know about that. Thanks for the post.
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 10:14 PM
Jul 2020

God Bless America wasn't even a consideration to me because of the separation clause and the Kate Smith revelation.

Plus, after 9/11, the sentiment became "God bless America and to hell with everyone else." (This was way before the newest idiot began discussing his damn wall.)

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