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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:49 AM Jul 2020

So my friend has COVID-19 and is in the hospital

She is a fifty-two year- old insulin- dependent diabetic. Her A1C is 10 which is high. She said she is being administered intravenous dextrose. I suspect the COVID-19 has triggered her blood sugar. I hope and pray that is all that it is.

COVID-19 is no joke. Shame on anybody who treats it as such.

Thoughts, prayers, best wishes appreciated.

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So my friend has COVID-19 and is in the hospital (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 OP
I'm so sorry. I hope she gets well soon! GreenPartyVoter Jul 2020 #1
Hope your friend gets through this swiftly and with no horrible impacts. lark Jul 2020 #2
Sending good vibes malaise Jul 2020 #3
Healing vibes and energy for your friend. Please keep us posted. niyad Jul 2020 #4
My daughter works in a doctor's office and is an insulin dependent diabetic about the same age as... Srkdqltr Jul 2020 #5
Sending good thoughts cate94 Jul 2020 #6
A prayer for healing and continued health for your friend and a Tanuki Jul 2020 #7
Sending good wishes for her quick recovery Alliepoo Jul 2020 #8
Sending good vibes for your friend. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2020 #9
Best wishes MLAA Jul 2020 #10
I had a conversation in the hospital when my husband died. Susan Calvin Jul 2020 #11
My grandfather invented the process for dissolving amino acids GumboYaYa Jul 2020 #31
Based on what I heard from that lady, Susan Calvin Jul 2020 #41
I hope your friend is going to have one or two days in there....and head back onecent Jul 2020 #12
Hope she recovers soon and fully. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2020 #13
Good vibes her way greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #14
I send good thoughts and healing energy her way. wendyb-NC Jul 2020 #15
best wishes hkp11 Jul 2020 #16
Your friend will be in my prayers Gothmog Jul 2020 #17
If she's getting dextrose her blood sugar is dangerously low, despite the high A1C ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #18
Excellent point. nt ooky Jul 2020 #22
Not necessarily Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #26
My husband was an extremely brittle Type 1 adult onset diabetic. Heartstrings Jul 2020 #33
I'm sure they are - Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #36
Exactly... Heartstrings Jul 2020 #40
Prayers and hugs for your friend. gademocrat7 Jul 2020 #19
Sent up a prayer for your friend. iluvtennis Jul 2020 #20
One of my adult children is a type 1 insulin dependent diabetic. ooky Jul 2020 #21
Healing vibes on the way! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #23
I'm so sorry, Dem. She's where she needs to be right now. Hortensis Jul 2020 #24
A1C reflects average blood sugar over the past 3 months Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #25
One time I asked her what her fasting glucose is and she said 200. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 #28
Normal fasting glucose is under 100 Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #32
I am so sorry. qwlauren35 Jul 2020 #27
thoughts and prayers and best wishes...the entire thing...it is a scary time. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #29
Sending good thoughts... CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #30
Wishing her a speedy recovery Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #34
Good thoughts and vibes for your dear friend. sarge43 Jul 2020 #35
I hope she will be OK. Very scary. Keep us posted and take care. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #37
Positive energy for a full recovery mrs_p Jul 2020 #38
Lifting her up. calimary Jul 2020 #39
I hope your friend gets through this, DSB! Cha Jul 2020 #42
may she have a speedy, complete recovery tishaLA Jul 2020 #43
Prayers that samplegirl Jul 2020 #44
Sending prayers! pazzyanne Jul 2020 #45
This is the fate of many here on DU. warmfeet Jul 2020 #46
Could she be confused and they are giving her dexamethasone (a steroid)? LisaL Jul 2020 #47
(((((Good Vibes))))) SouthernCal_Dem Jul 2020 #48
thinking of your friend, wishing her well. peacebuzzard Jul 2020 #49
I hope your bdamomma Jul 2020 #50

lark

(23,091 posts)
2. Hope your friend gets through this swiftly and with no horrible impacts.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jul 2020

Best wishes for good health coming her way!

Srkdqltr

(6,270 posts)
5. My daughter works in a doctor's office and is an insulin dependent diabetic about the same age as...
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jul 2020

...your friend. I worry. Best wishes to your friend I hope she recovers swiftly. This virus thing is just awful.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
7. A prayer for healing and continued health for your friend and a
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jul 2020

speedy vaccine for you and all of us! Please keep us informed about your friend.

Alliepoo

(2,215 posts)
8. Sending good wishes for her quick recovery
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:09 AM
Jul 2020

And lots of healing vibes her way!! Also sending peace-filled vibes to you. I know you are worried about your friend. Your DU fam is here for you.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
9. Sending good vibes for your friend.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jul 2020

My husband is a Type Ii insulin dependent diabetic. He also has Congestive Heart Failure. He getsvthis, I am a widow. THAT is how serious we are taking this.

Susan Calvin

(1,646 posts)
11. I had a conversation in the hospital when my husband died.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jul 2020

With a person whose husband was also in the hospital and was being fed by a tube. She said that stuff they put in them is basically nothing but sugar and terrible for you. It was causing all kinds of things to go wrong with her husband.

GumboYaYa

(5,942 posts)
31. My grandfather invented the process for dissolving amino acids
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jul 2020

in a glucose drip when he was treating long term care patients in a Mash unit in Korea. I don't think the technology has advanced that much since then.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
12. I hope your friend is going to have one or two days in there....and head back
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:48 AM
Jul 2020

to home.
I had a friend who is over 70...she got a bad cough, and I called her one night and there was no answer.

The next day my girlfriend called me (worked with her for 10 years at the IRS after I left Ford)...and she sounded
like she had a VERY BAD COLD and that she was in with the Covis people...and she couldn,t remember anything.

I waited for a day or two and all of a sudden she called me...and said she did NOT HAVE ANY COVIS....gave her something
to take for whatever it was...and she is doing real fine. She was home in two days. I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE IT...

Don't give up, I'm sure you won't....I keep thinking I'm going to go and I don't want to die with corniv. AT ALL!!!!

Saying prayers.

wendyb-NC

(3,321 posts)
15. I send good thoughts and healing energy her way.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jul 2020

I hope that the doctors and nurses are able to stabilize her blood sugar and she responds to the Covid-19 treatments, to regain complete health.

hkp11

(275 posts)
16. best wishes
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jul 2020

covid-19 is no joke - people with underlying conditions are especially vulnerable, just like me (diabetes).

Hoping that she gets well soon.

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
18. If she's getting dextrose her blood sugar is dangerously low, despite the high A1C
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

Scary situation, Best of wishes and I hope she gets well.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
26. Not necessarily
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jul 2020

She may be getting dextrose because she is unable to eat. In which case they likely need to back off on the dextrose or add insulin to reduce the blood sugar.

Absent any information about her current blood glucose levels, it is impossible to tell whether they are giving her dextrose to counter low blood glucose - OR - are giving her dextrose for other reasons (in which case her current blood glucose needs to be carefully monitored to ensure that the dextrose used for other reasons isn't exacerbating an already high blood glucose).

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
33. My husband was an extremely brittle Type 1 adult onset diabetic.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

My question would be, are they not giving her insulin?

No matter, healing vibes sent her way.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
36. I'm sure they are -
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:10 PM
Jul 2020

but it can be a very hard balance, as I'm sure you're aware.

My point was more that we don't know why they are giving her dextrose.

If she has been given more insulin (or has been giving herself) more insulin than needed to bond to the sugar and remove it from her blood, her blood glucose may be dangerously low - and dextrose would be treatment to counter too much insulin.

Or she may be getting dextrose for another reason entirely (in which case, as an insulin-dependent diabetic, they need to carefully monitor her blood glucose, and potentially alter her insulin dose to ensure that what cures something else doesn't turn into diabetic ketoacidosis, for example)

ooky

(8,922 posts)
21. One of my adult children is a type 1 insulin dependent diabetic.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jul 2020

We know about high A1C's. The A1C is a measure of average blood sugar over several months, so her sugar was likely already high when she was infected with COVID. Her spot sugar readings are a good indicator of how the COVID is effecting it, which I am sure it is. The hospital is the best place for her right now in terms of controlling her blood sugar levels and managing it's effect on the COVID and vice-versa. From my experience with our son's diabetes, my view is that anyone with this combination of diseases should be in the hospital.

My son is type 1 and his profession requires him to go into people's homes, and I am terrified.

All my best wishes for your friend.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
25. A1C reflects average blood sugar over the past 3 months
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:36 AM
Jul 2020

It's not a precise measure, but unless she has been in the hospital for quite a while it is NOT the cause of the high A1C.

I assume they are taking her blood sugar regularly throughout the day? That is the measure that reflects what the dextroxe (and COVID 19) are doing to her blood sugar.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
32. Normal fasting glucose is under 100
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jul 2020

An A1C of 10 is roughly equivalent to an average blood glucose of 240 for the past 3 months. That is definitiely not a COVID (or dextrose) caused blood sugar problem. It's out-of-control diabetes.

(For reference, my last A1C is 6.3 - formally in the "pre-diabetic" range, even though I have diabetes. My fasting blood glucose is between 80 and 120. I never go above 140 (the top of the "normal" range), even after eating. The goal most doctors set for people with diabetes is to come back down to below 140 within 2 hours after eating. If I followed those guidelines, my A1C would be in the range of 7.5 - 8.0.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to make someone take better care of themselves - but if your friend asks for help, reducing carb intake (sugar + starches) is a very effective way to keep diabetes from becoming a progressive disease. It takes a major change in eating habits that most are not willing to make.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
38. Positive energy for a full recovery
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:27 PM
Jul 2020

I hope your friend gets better soon.

I was just told by a co-worker that she is a firm believer when it’s your time it’s your time so she isn’t concerned about the virus. What the fuck does that even mean? I said what does that mean for someone like my husband who is immunocompromised? I am so sick of these so called Christians here. Ugh.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
46. This is the fate of many here on DU.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jul 2020

This is the fate of many on planet earth.

Perhaps we should consider working with each other.

Just a crazy fucking thought.

We could all work toward helping each other. Nah! That's just naive.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
47. Could she be confused and they are giving her dexamethasone (a steroid)?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jul 2020

Dextrose would have been giving if her blood glucose is low, not high. Dexamethasone showed promised in the survival rate of covid.

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