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Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:58 AM Jul 2020

Troy Harlow has always made sure to pay his mortgage on time. Wells Fargo had other plans for him.

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Troy Harlow has always made sure to pay his mortgage on time. Wells Fargo had other plans for him.

Lawyers say they've found cases in 11 states in which Wells Fargo has wrongly claimed borrowers asked to pause mortgage payments during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Troy Harlow has always made sure to pay his monthly mortgage bill on time, even after he filed for personal bankruptcy protection in late 2017 following a kidney transplant that put him on permanent disability.

"I needed to have a place to live," Harlow said in an interview. "I keep everything paid because I know it has to be paid."


But Wells Fargo, the bank that handles Harlow's mortgage, had other ideas for him.

On April 29, without Harlow's knowledge or permission, Wells Fargo told the bankruptcy court overseeing his payment plan that he had asked the bank to pause his mortgage payments because he had been hurt by COVID-19. Harlow, 48, of Buchanan, Virginia, made no such request and had continued to forward the full amount owed on his mortgage to Wells Fargo, court documents show.

The bank claimed that it had placed Harlow in a forbearance program, a temporary arrangement under the CARES Act aimed at helping borrowers who attest to financial hardship related to the coronavirus. Under the program, borrowers whose loans are financed by government-sponsored entities like Fannie Mae and Ginnie Mae can stop making payments for up to a year. Harlow's mortgage was originated by the Federal Housing Administration and went into a pool of loans sold to investors by Ginnie Mae.

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"I was just astounded that this was going on behind my back," Harlow said. "I hope we can get this straight, because I do not want to lose my house."


https://www.nbcnews.com/business/personal-finance/troy-harlow-has-always-made-sure-pay-his-mortgage-time-n1233635

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Troy Harlow has always made sure to pay his mortgage on time. Wells Fargo had other plans for him. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jul 2020 OP
Good grief, that is terrifying. wendyb-NC Jul 2020 #1
How does WF still have customers? tazkcmo Jul 2020 #2
People who already had.accts with them before Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #9
So they stayed. tazkcmo Jul 2020 #10
You can't just switch the bank that carries your mortgage. MoonchildCA Jul 2020 #14
True. tazkcmo Jul 2020 #24
Some people don't have a choice Trailrider1951 Jul 2020 #16
This business of reselling mortgages should be illegal. The place you take out the mortgage Liberal In Texas Jul 2020 #25
+1. we've already moved our money. WF is so morally bankrupt who wants to do business with them?! uponit7771 Jul 2020 #18
So Wells Fargo Is At It Again Me. Jul 2020 #3
Corporate Death Penalty. Corporations are people, legally, right? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #5
Yup Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #13
When Is Something Going To Be Done Me. Jul 2020 #26
Wells Fargo strikes again! central scrutinizer Jul 2020 #4
Wells Fargo is the worst. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #6
Fraud exboyfil Jul 2020 #7
Wells Fargo should be newblewtoo Jul 2020 #8
I hope he sues Well Fargo. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #11
Surely his monthly statements for his mortgage reflect his payments. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #12
Yeah, I was wondering what happened to his payments if he Bettie Jul 2020 #17
Right. Not to cut Wells Fargo any slack, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #19
Even if he didn't pay attention but just sent in his payment Bettie Jul 2020 #20
That's why I look at my statement every month. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #21
We do now, but at that time Bettie Jul 2020 #22
The mortgage being sold off and resold off is a huge problem. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #23
Wells Fargo ellie Jul 2020 #15

Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
9. People who already had.accts with them before
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jul 2020

News of their fraudulent business practices came to light

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
14. You can't just switch the bank that carries your mortgage.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jul 2020

It’s not like a bank account. And if you are no longer working, and on a small fixed income, it is almost impossible to refinance.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
24. True.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:34 PM
Jul 2020

Even if they could change mortgage holders, they could end up with WF again the way these banks buy debt. That sucks.

Thanks for your input.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
16. Some people don't have a choice
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jul 2020

When I refinanced my mortgage in 2009 for a lower interest rate, I dealt with a local bank. After two months, they sold the mortgage to WF. I had no say in the matter. However, I will say that I had no trouble with WF at all. I sold that house in 2017.

Liberal In Texas

(13,552 posts)
25. This business of reselling mortgages should be illegal. The place you take out the mortgage
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jul 2020

should have to service it for as long as you have the mortgage.

Otherwise a mortgage can end up with some fly-by-night unscrupulous company and you have absolutely no say in it. It's one of the big things that is wrong with the reverse mortgage program.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. Corporate Death Penalty. Corporations are people, legally, right?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jul 2020

Also throw all the executives in jail.

newblewtoo

(667 posts)
8. Wells Fargo should be
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jul 2020

put out of people's misery. Worst.Company.Evah No way should they be allowed anywhere near a Federal Housing Loan program. They are barely competent enough to run a student savings plan.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
12. Surely his monthly statements for his mortgage reflect his payments.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

I make sure I look at mine every month so that what I've paid is credited correctly, especially since I've started paying extra principal, so that it will be paid off sooner.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
19. Right. Not to cut Wells Fargo any slack,
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jul 2020

a mortgage holder needs to be paying attention to what's going on.

Bettie

(16,104 posts)
20. Even if he didn't pay attention but just sent in his payment
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jul 2020

where did the money go?

If it wasn't paid on the mortgage, what happened to it? He'd notice if it went back into his account, you'd think.

So, was it misapplied?

Our mortgage company applied our extra payment amounts to escrow for property taxes after it got sold for the dozenth time. Took us some calls to get them to apply it to principle as intended and we didn't notice right away.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
23. The mortgage being sold off and resold off is a huge problem.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jul 2020

For some reason, my current mortgage has always been with the same servicer. Well, actually two different ones since last year, after ten years, I re-financed to pay for solar installation, but it's stayed with the new one ever since.

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