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melman

(7,681 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:06 PM Jul 2020

Nancy Pelosi: "I yearn for other Republican presidents"

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called on President Trump Thursday to exercise "the full power" of the Defense Production Act to meet coronavirus equipment needs and accused him of engaging in a "massive dereliction of duty" by ignoring science during the pandemic.

What she's saying: "I yearn for other Republican presidents," Pelosi said at a press conference. "While we may have disagreed on many points, but at least we had a shared commitment to the governance of our country."

The big picture: Congress is prepping for a bitter battle over the next coronavirus stimulus package, which comes amid a surge in infections in 37 states over the past week. The $600-per-week supplemental unemployment insurance (UI) benefit included in the March CARES Act is set to expire at the end of July.

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The bottom line: "Because we are Americans, we're going to beat this. But we have to beat it scientifically, and in order to do that, you have to believe in science, and you have to believe in governance," Pelosi said.

https://www.axios.com/pelosi-trump-coronavirus-stimulus-congress-c662773c-e773-4d90-ae2c-7f02e2676fd7.html

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Nancy Pelosi: "I yearn for other Republican presidents" (Original Post) melman Jul 2020 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #1
K&R Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #2
Don't worry, the MINUTE Biden is elected, the Lincoln Project will start trying to elect one! BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #3
Ultimately, they will leftieNanner Jul 2020 #6
Never forget, these are the same guys who brought us McCain, Romney and SARAH FUCKING PALIN BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #7
McCain, Romney would have been ok Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #12
They would not have been ok. They only look better when compared to Dump. diva77 Jul 2020 #16
I was only speaking relatively Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #18
+1 Mitt 'corporations are people my friends' Romney, and appalachiablue Jul 2020 #23
Romney would have been a generic, one-term Republican president. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #26
Romney does look more decent and capable than appalachiablue Jul 2020 #48
Look at this map, and let the effect of just Texas going Blue has, let it fully sink in Celerity Jul 2020 #46
+1, I'll add ... "acting as if Trump never existed" uponit7771 Jul 2020 #8
Like Nixon. After he was gone, you couldn't find ANYONE who voted for him...nobody. BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #9
Whoa, I wonder how it will be with Red Don? Wonder how many of his MAGA Hat racist fuck as followers uponit7771 Jul 2020 #10
I didn't see The Lincoln Project mentioned in the OP or the linked article. Why mention them here? George II Jul 2020 #20
Because Pelosi is yearning for Republican Presidents, and so are they. BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #34
NO SHE ISN'T but that's what some would like people to believe. Did you watch the video at the link? George II Jul 2020 #35
I hope that they do some serious reflection about how they made Trump possible, Blue_true Jul 2020 #41
The Republican golfer-in-chief will not do it Champp Jul 2020 #4
Families will know when Gramma, Gramps, Uncle Billy, Aunt Judy, a brother, Blue_true Jul 2020 #42
" ... believe in science." lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #5
I yearn to never have another Russiapublican president again. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #11
+1 melman Jul 2020 #13
Same here. Republifuckan presidents and Congress are bad for the country. nt Blue_true Jul 2020 #44
The TRUTH is that the quote is taken out of context - she was speaking about PAST.... George II Jul 2020 #14
Of course it is George. This is the same stuff from the likes of the Sirota's, Gray's, etc. who still_one Jul 2020 #19
Gray has been all over Twitter bashing Biden the last two months, even STILL here in July. George II Jul 2020 #22
It is disgusting still_one Jul 2020 #31
I was wondering what this was about ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #24
Exact headline copied from Axios melman Jul 2020 #25
Yeah yeah ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #27
Oh melman Jul 2020 #28
Oh dear. ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #29
Yeah melman Jul 2020 #30
Whoa....no ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #37
I love how some make a decision about what you're thinking and then challenge you to deny it. George II Jul 2020 #43
Just because it is the Axios headline as they posted it doesn't preclude the reality that it... George II Jul 2020 #32
I guess that Axios author wants us to see the headline and think: "Omygerd, both-sides-both-sides betsuni Jul 2020 #50
I don't yearn for any Republican jalan48 Jul 2020 #15
Neither does Nancy Pelosi. Did you watch the video in the article? George II Jul 2020 #33
Good to hear. jalan48 Jul 2020 #39
The bitter left is already taking aim at Pelosi Hav Jul 2020 #17
I yearn for a sane 9 year old rather than this sociopathic toddler. Literally, almost wiggs Jul 2020 #21
we need a LOYAL opposition. not commie fux gnewz monsters. pansypoo53219 Jul 2020 #36
I yearn for NO REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS ever again. milestogo Jul 2020 #38
Neither does Nancy Pelosi. Unfortunately Axios inadvertently or willingly gave the wrong impression. George II Jul 2020 #40
Why? There's a Republican president now. And all Republicans are just like him. Mitch, Lindsey. Autumn Jul 2020 #45
So you really think that Pelosi today said that she "yearns" for another republican president? George II Jul 2020 #47
Did you watch the video George? Are saying that Nancy did not say Autumn Jul 2020 #51
"Are saying that Nancy did not say" betsuni Jul 2020 #52
I don't have a problem do you? I watched the video and commented on something Nancy said Autumn Jul 2020 #53
"You have to believe in science, you have to believe in governance." betsuni Jul 2020 #54
"You have to believe in science, you have to believe in governance." Autumn Jul 2020 #55
"part of what she said" betsuni Jul 2020 #56
Since you find talking about snippets of what she said to be irritating or beneath you perhaps Autumn Jul 2020 #58
Can't. I'm a little busy. betsuni Jul 2020 #61
Yeah me too. Autumn Jul 2020 #62
This is a forum for Democrats. betsuni Jul 2020 #67
Yes it is a forum for Democrats. And since I am a Democrat, here I am Autumn Jul 2020 #69
___ betsuni Jul 2020 #70
And one where posters are expected to support Democrats, not try to "gotcha" them. George II Jul 2020 #78
Yes, Nancy was speaking of presidents in the past who were sane, the implication is that.... George II Jul 2020 #77
Yes I did, Autumn, and the headline clearly misrepresents what she said. But you have it there.... George II Jul 2020 #57
Are you saying that she did not say Autumn Jul 2020 #59
Obviously I didn't say she didn't say it, I repeated it in my post. But as I also said.... George II Jul 2020 #63
She said just that, there's absolutely no attempt to misrepresent or mischaracterize what she said. Autumn Jul 2020 #64
"don't accuse people of doing what they aren't." betsuni Jul 2020 #65
How nice. You found time to join the discussion and help out! Autumn Jul 2020 #66
It's not about me. "Not me, Us." Remember? betsuni Jul 2020 #72
She said "just that" and a LOT more, but the clarifying statement following "just that".... George II Jul 2020 #68
You want to clarify it go and do an OP and do just that. Someone will be interested Autumn Jul 2020 #71
Sorry, I'm not interested. I'll do my clarification (actually have several times) right here.... George II Jul 2020 #73
You did seem to be very interested. Glad you clarified that you're not. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #74
What I'm not interested in is the "go to" directive of "do an OP", you're trying to do.... George II Jul 2020 #75
Likewise I'm sure. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #76
I'm so desperate to get rid of Trump... PlanetBev Jul 2020 #49
Yeah, a "regular" republican president Yeehah Jul 2020 #60

leftieNanner

(15,076 posts)
6. Ultimately, they will
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jul 2020

But they are working hard to get rid of Trump AND the Republican toadies in the Senate. Until we get the country back on an even keel, I think they will continue to support proper governance.

We shall see.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
7. Never forget, these are the same guys who brought us McCain, Romney and SARAH FUCKING PALIN
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jul 2020

They will bring back people like that in a heartbeat.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,401 posts)
12. McCain, Romney would have been ok
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

Sarah Palin was unacceptable but Republicans picked somebody arguably even worse and dumber than her for PRESIDENT!!!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,401 posts)
18. I was only speaking relatively
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jul 2020

They still adhered to rules and norms and believed in good governance was the point that I think that was being made. I did NOT vote for either of them

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
23. +1 Mitt 'corporations are people my friends' Romney, and
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:09 PM
Jul 2020

'just ask your parents for the money' Mitt. No way.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
26. Romney would have been a generic, one-term Republican president.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:28 PM
Jul 2020

Likely would have compromised a lot if he had to with a Democratic House & Senate. He is not the type who would stake out partisan lines and never, ever cross 'em to the point of letting the country burn to appease a specific ideology.

Romney also would have turned around and appointed the same judges Trump has, so, in that regard, every Republican is awful.

But I don't fault the Lincoln Project for wanting a Republican president. They're Republicans, after all! I would expect that they'll go back to being Republicans, or at least hoping to get sanity back in the party.

Romney was sane. I think they would be perfectly okay re-nominating and supporting Romney over Biden, or whomever the Democrats nominate in 2024, and that's fine. I get it. I am under no illusion here that they're in this for the long run. They're here to beat Trump.

Once they do, all bets are off. So be it. I'm okay with that because I'd rather have their commitment to beat Trump than working to get Trump reelected by pushing the same false-choice a lot of Never Trumpers pushed in 2016 (namely that Hillary was awful too).

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
48. Romney does look more decent and capable than
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:52 PM
Jul 2020

the current figure, and what a low bar but true that at least he's sane. If the Lincoln Project works towards beating Trump and advancing a more reasonable candidate that's fine. Nancy's remark I understand as her having to do what's best for the country.

But there is no question that the influence of party figures and allies like the Koch Brothers, Heritage, the Libertarians, the Federalist Society, Betsy Devos and others will persist with an agenda of turning this country into an anti democratic, authoritarian and ethno-nationalist state run by a corrupt oligarchic system. One marked by anti science and anti Enlightenment values with severe dysfunction from chainsaw capitalism, income inequality, racism and the loss of rights for women and minorities beyond what has taken place in the last several decades. The lowered status of the U.S. as a world leader to a flawed democracy is also among the major concerns.

The party would have to revert to a kind of Eisenhower Republicanism, highly unlikely, in order to attempt to rebuild the country after the extensive damage it has undergone which will last for generations. I am particularly disturbed by the strong encouragement and renewal of extremist, racist, even pro violence and pro fascist elements whose presence will remain for decades.

This is not the 1980s or 1990s, we are facing existential crises threatening civilization and the entire planet like never before in history. It will take a major Reconstruction to recover from the era of the last 30-40 years, and to prepare for the coming future which is facing massive new challenges. My heart breaks for younger generations that will have to confront the legacy of issues we leave behind.

Celerity

(43,255 posts)
46. Look at this map, and let the effect of just Texas going Blue has, let it fully sink in
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jul 2020

look at all the other swing states I am giving away, all those gone from our side, but still, we win. and Texas will get more EV's after the Census, more seats in the House, and multiple ones of those swing states I gave to the Rethinks will LOSE EV's.

Want to stop a Rethug from ever winning the POTUS again? Skim out excess LW and Democratic population from deep Blue states, and have them flood into TX and FL by the millions and shift those 2 sates perma Blue. Have Dem-friendly billionaires help do this. The Great Blue Shift.



IF FL also goes perma Blue then it is game over, as I can then (on top of all the other swing states I tossed away above) also turn CO, MN, NH, and NV red, and we still win.








uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
10. Whoa, I wonder how it will be with Red Don? Wonder how many of his MAGA Hat racist fuck as followers
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jul 2020

... will want to keep their MAGA associations?!

I couldn't imagine being a PoC in a work place were I have a MAGA Clucker as a boss and think I"m getting a fair shake knowing my boss enables (minimum) an overtly racist person like Trump.

What are these people going to do post Trump? Act like the internet and pictures never happened?

How do we hold these bastards responsible for Trumps response to CV19?!

They're now attempting to rewrite history as if Trump has nothing to do with CV19 spread in America

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. NO SHE ISN'T but that's what some would like people to believe. Did you watch the video at the link?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jul 2020

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. I hope that they do some serious reflection about how they made Trump possible,
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jul 2020

and how they fueled the rise of Fox News and hate Radio. If they do some serious Mea Culpa and show earnest desire to change for the better, I am willing to give them a chance to prove it, but with my guard up.

Champp

(2,114 posts)
4. The Republican golfer-in-chief will not do it
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jul 2020

He's busy burying the pandemic data, screwing up and slowing up the testing, and choking off the supply of PPE.

No way is he, or his Republican cronies, going to do anything good for America.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. Families will know when Gramma, Gramps, Uncle Billy, Aunt Judy, a brother,
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jul 2020

a sister, or a child die from COVID19. All the lying in the world from the likes of Trump, Kemp and DeSantis won’t change that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. The TRUTH is that the quote is taken out of context - she was speaking about PAST....
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jul 2020

...republican presidents, not that she "yearns" for future republican presidents. A number of past republican presidents knew how to run the country. We may not agree on their policy overall, but they were not donald trump.

This is just another hit piece on a prominent Democrat.

still_one

(92,115 posts)
19. Of course it is George. This is the same stuff from the likes of the Sirota's, Gray's, etc. who
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:11 PM
Jul 2020

take pleasure to misrepresent DEMOCRATS, and the DEMOCRATIC PARTY





ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
24. I was wondering what this was about
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jul 2020

Since Nancy Pelosi is a complete And VERY successful Democratic Party badass and Republicans worst nightmare, I thought the heading wording of the OP a trifle unusual, but then...perhaps not

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
28. Oh
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jul 2020

So then you acknowledge the "heading wording of the OP" was not at all unusual. Not even a trifle.


Terrific.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
30. Yeah
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jul 2020

I know your whole point here is to try to imply I'm a Republican.


But Axios is not a right wing publication. And this is their headline.


Sometimes you just gotta accept when your shots don't land. The insult just doesn't work.

ismnotwasm

(41,974 posts)
37. Whoa....no
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jul 2020

What the hell gave you that idea? I find the title manipulative but as I did note YOU didn’t write it. Dude, my dude, just...stop. It will be ok.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Just because it is the Axios headline as they posted it doesn't preclude the reality that it...
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:09 PM
Jul 2020

....is "unusual".

Quite honestly, I don't see the point of this other than to try to make a perfectly valid statement by Pelosi (with words before and after the six words of the headline) into an appearance that she "yearns" for a republican president", implying that she wants one in the future, which is totally incorrect.

What she said, and it's clear when those six words taken out of context are included with the ENTIRE sentence and thought, is that she "yearns" for a republican president NOT like the one we have, but like some that we've had in the past.

It's a shame that Axios had to misrepresent what she said with the sensational six words in their headline and the misrepresentation is posted here on DU.

betsuni

(25,447 posts)
50. I guess that Axios author wants us to see the headline and think: "Omygerd, both-sides-both-sides
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:00 AM
Jul 2020

both-sides -- Nancy wants Republican presidents so they'll veto the ACA with a public option in the future (the one she got through the House and then by a miracle the compromised one the Senate passed) and all the other progressive policies that are now sitting on McConnell's desk, because she's been a secret Republican this whole time. I KNEW IT! Finally, the truth is revealed. I will never vote again for this corrupt rigged system. Thank you, Axios!"



And suddenly, questioning a source is bad.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
17. The bitter left is already taking aim at Pelosi
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jul 2020

It's funny how they concentrate on trying to get rid of the strongest Dems which only helps the Repubs.
They'll gladly take this out of context for further attacks as well. Everyone else knows what she meant, of course.

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
21. I yearn for a sane 9 year old rather than this sociopathic toddler. Literally, almost
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jul 2020

anyone of any age would do us better than the most reprehensible, arrogant, limited, corrupt, self-centered person any of us has ever seen or met.

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. Neither does Nancy Pelosi. Unfortunately Axios inadvertently or willingly gave the wrong impression.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:41 PM
Jul 2020

I wish people wouldn't have just read the headline and run with it.

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
45. Why? There's a Republican president now. And all Republicans are just like him. Mitch, Lindsey.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jul 2020

Where is their shared shared commitment to the governance of our country? I could go on but I think that should be more than enough to take care of any yearning.

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. So you really think that Pelosi today said that she "yearns" for another republican president?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:22 PM
Jul 2020

Did you not view the video in the article? Is that what she said?

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
51. Did you watch the video George? Are saying that Nancy did not say
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:08 AM
Jul 2020
"I yearn for other Republican presidents,"While we may have disagreed on many points, at least we had a shared commitment to the governance of our country."
?

Seems like that's what I heard when I watched the video.

betsuni

(25,447 posts)
52. "Are saying that Nancy did not say"
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:32 AM
Jul 2020

What?

"We're in a fairly critical place. I yearn for other Republican presidents. While we may have disagreed on many points, at least we had a shared commitment to the governance of our country."

"You have to believe in science, and you have to believe in governance."

What's the problem?

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
53. I don't have a problem do you? I watched the video and commented on something Nancy said
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:42 AM
Jul 2020

and responded to a response to my comment. Yes I viewed the video and that is what she said. It's my opinion that all republicans are the same and have no interest in the governance of our country. I yearn for republicans to become extinct, not for republicans of the past who got us where we are today. YMMV

George II (54,516 posts)

47. So you really think that Pelosi today said that she "yearns" for another republican president?

Did you not view the video in the article? Is that what she said?

betsuni

(25,447 posts)
54. "You have to believe in science, you have to believe in governance."
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:51 AM
Jul 2020

That's what Nancy said. This does not apply to the Republican Party in 2020. Duh.

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
55. "You have to believe in science, you have to believe in governance."
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:56 AM
Jul 2020

Yes, that's part of what she said. Duh.

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
58. Since you find talking about snippets of what she said to be irritating or beneath you perhaps
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:03 AM
Jul 2020

you should go and do an OP and break down every sentence she spoke. Someone may be interested in that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
77. Yes, Nancy was speaking of presidents in the past who were sane, the implication is that....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jul 2020

....she was speaking in the future, "yearning" for a republican president someday. The Axios headline is very misleading and false!

George II

(67,782 posts)
57. Yes I did, Autumn, and the headline clearly misrepresents what she said. But you have it there....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:02 AM
Jul 2020

I'll retype one word for emphasis:

"I yearn for other Republican presidents. While we may have disagreed on many points, at least we HAD a shared commitment to the governance of our country."

"HAD" meaning in the past, she's clearly talking about PREVIOUS republican presidents, not yearning for future republican presidents.

That's very clear, and again the headline clearly (and cleverly) misrepresents that. It's easy for a writer to lop off something before and something after a few simple words to totally change the sense of what one actually said. It's done all the time, it's a tactic of the right wing.

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
59. Are you saying that she did not say
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:11 AM
Jul 2020
"I yearn for other Republican presidents," "While we may have disagreed on many points, but at least we had a shared commitment to the governance of our country."
?

Because that's what I heard her say. If you want to break down everything she said then by all means do an OP breaking it down. Also, I never implied that she wanted future republicans. When the words "Richard Nixon " followed that sentence it was obvious what she was talking about. Myself? I don't miss the past republicans or their governance and sure as the fuck won't yearn for them.

The headline very clearly does not misrepresent what she said. Those were her words. Headlines are typically not a complete speech or interview but nice try.

George II

(67,782 posts)
63. Obviously I didn't say she didn't say it, I repeated it in my post. But as I also said....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jul 2020

....this is an obvious attempt to misrepresent or mischaracterize what she said, made even more clear by many of the responses in this discussion.

I also NEVER said that the headline wasn't her words, but as I've said a number of times already, and now once again, that's just SIX words taken from what she said, there was a lot before those six words and a lot after that gave everyone interested a much different perspective. She was speaking comparatively about past republican presidents vs. the one we have now.

As I also said, this is yet another attempt to make Nancy Pelosi look bad. It's been done countless times, as it's been done to Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, even Barack Obama and other DEMOCRATS.

I know what headlines are, and unfortunately the more negative they are about Democrats, false as they may be, the more people pounce on them as "gotchas".

Have a wonderful day.

Autumn

(45,026 posts)
64. She said just that, there's absolutely no attempt to misrepresent or mischaracterize what she said.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:40 AM
Jul 2020

You may not like that she said it and you may not like the reaction to her words but be honest and don't accuse people of doing what they aren't. You don't think anyone should discuss what Nancy had to say unless the discussion is about every sentence in a 2 minute clip of her interview? It doesn't work that way George.

George II

(67,782 posts)
68. She said "just that" and a LOT more, but the clarifying statement following "just that"....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jul 2020

....was cleverly omitted from the headline, they just used the "red meat" words.

David Letterman used to do a bit like that once a week, lifting a few words here and a few words there to portray something about a politician. But that was comedy.

As for the rest of what you said, the six words they used was NOT the gist or purpose of that 2-minute clip or the entire statement (btw, it wasn't an interview, it was her daily briefing), but the writer who lifted those six words obviously did the job he intended.

It works that way Autumn.

George II

(67,782 posts)
73. Sorry, I'm not interested. I'll do my clarification (actually have several times) right here....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 10:03 AM
Jul 2020

....thank you.

George II

(67,782 posts)
75. What I'm not interested in is the "go to" directive of "do an OP", you're trying to do....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jul 2020

....what the writer of that headline did.

It's the ol' go to directive of "do an OP" when someone doesn't agree with what someone says. I don't know how many times I've seen that said to people when they don't like the viewpoint of the person they're responding to.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
49. I'm so desperate to get rid of Trump...
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:28 AM
Jul 2020

...that I’m almost ready to drive out to Yorba Linda and dig up Richard Nixon.

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