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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called on President Trump Thursday to exercise "the full power" of the Defense Production Act to meet coronavirus equipment needs and accused him of engaging in a "massive dereliction of duty" by ignoring science during the pandemic.
What she's saying: "I yearn for other Republican presidents," Pelosi said at a press conference. "While we may have disagreed on many points, but at least we had a shared commitment to the governance of our country."
The big picture: Congress is prepping for a bitter battle over the next coronavirus stimulus package, which comes amid a surge in infections in 37 states over the past week. The $600-per-week supplemental unemployment insurance (UI) benefit included in the March CARES Act is set to expire at the end of July.
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The bottom line: "Because we are Americans, we're going to beat this. But we have to beat it scientifically, and in order to do that, you have to believe in science, and you have to believe in governance," Pelosi said.
https://www.axios.com/pelosi-trump-coronavirus-stimulus-congress-c662773c-e773-4d90-ae2c-7f02e2676fd7.html
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)leftieNanner
(15,076 posts)But they are working hard to get rid of Trump AND the Republican toadies in the Senate. Until we get the country back on an even keel, I think they will continue to support proper governance.
We shall see.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)They will bring back people like that in a heartbeat.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,401 posts)Sarah Palin was unacceptable but Republicans picked somebody arguably even worse and dumber than her for PRESIDENT!!!
diva77
(7,638 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,401 posts)They still adhered to rules and norms and believed in good governance was the point that I think that was being made. I did NOT vote for either of them
appalachiablue
(41,113 posts)'just ask your parents for the money' Mitt. No way.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Likely would have compromised a lot if he had to with a Democratic House & Senate. He is not the type who would stake out partisan lines and never, ever cross 'em to the point of letting the country burn to appease a specific ideology.
Romney also would have turned around and appointed the same judges Trump has, so, in that regard, every Republican is awful.
But I don't fault the Lincoln Project for wanting a Republican president. They're Republicans, after all! I would expect that they'll go back to being Republicans, or at least hoping to get sanity back in the party.
Romney was sane. I think they would be perfectly okay re-nominating and supporting Romney over Biden, or whomever the Democrats nominate in 2024, and that's fine. I get it. I am under no illusion here that they're in this for the long run. They're here to beat Trump.
Once they do, all bets are off. So be it. I'm okay with that because I'd rather have their commitment to beat Trump than working to get Trump reelected by pushing the same false-choice a lot of Never Trumpers pushed in 2016 (namely that Hillary was awful too).
appalachiablue
(41,113 posts)the current figure, and what a low bar but true that at least he's sane. If the Lincoln Project works towards beating Trump and advancing a more reasonable candidate that's fine. Nancy's remark I understand as her having to do what's best for the country.
But there is no question that the influence of party figures and allies like the Koch Brothers, Heritage, the Libertarians, the Federalist Society, Betsy Devos and others will persist with an agenda of turning this country into an anti democratic, authoritarian and ethno-nationalist state run by a corrupt oligarchic system. One marked by anti science and anti Enlightenment values with severe dysfunction from chainsaw capitalism, income inequality, racism and the loss of rights for women and minorities beyond what has taken place in the last several decades. The lowered status of the U.S. as a world leader to a flawed democracy is also among the major concerns.
The party would have to revert to a kind of Eisenhower Republicanism, highly unlikely, in order to attempt to rebuild the country after the extensive damage it has undergone which will last for generations. I am particularly disturbed by the strong encouragement and renewal of extremist, racist, even pro violence and pro fascist elements whose presence will remain for decades.
This is not the 1980s or 1990s, we are facing existential crises threatening civilization and the entire planet like never before in history. It will take a major Reconstruction to recover from the era of the last 30-40 years, and to prepare for the coming future which is facing massive new challenges. My heart breaks for younger generations that will have to confront the legacy of issues we leave behind.
Celerity
(43,255 posts)look at all the other swing states I am giving away, all those gone from our side, but still, we win. and Texas will get more EV's after the Census, more seats in the House, and multiple ones of those swing states I gave to the Rethinks will LOSE EV's.
Want to stop a Rethug from ever winning the POTUS again? Skim out excess LW and Democratic population from deep Blue states, and have them flood into TX and FL by the millions and shift those 2 sates perma Blue. Have Dem-friendly billionaires help do this. The Great Blue Shift.
IF FL also goes perma Blue then it is game over, as I can then (on top of all the other swing states I tossed away above) also turn CO, MN, NH, and NV red, and we still win.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)uponit7771
(90,329 posts)... will want to keep their MAGA associations?!
I couldn't imagine being a PoC in a work place were I have a MAGA Clucker as a boss and think I"m getting a fair shake knowing my boss enables (minimum) an overtly racist person like Trump.
What are these people going to do post Trump? Act like the internet and pictures never happened?
How do we hold these bastards responsible for Trumps response to CV19?!
They're now attempting to rewrite history as if Trump has nothing to do with CV19 spread in America
George II
(67,782 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)and how they fueled the rise of Fox News and hate Radio. If they do some serious Mea Culpa and show earnest desire to change for the better, I am willing to give them a chance to prove it, but with my guard up.
Champp
(2,114 posts)He's busy burying the pandemic data, screwing up and slowing up the testing, and choking off the supply of PPE.
No way is he, or his Republican cronies, going to do anything good for America.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)a sister, or a child die from COVID19. All the lying in the world from the likes of Trump, Kemp and DeSantis wont change that.
lpbk2713
(42,751 posts)It doesn't help any when they believe the planet is only 4000 years old.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...republican presidents, not that she "yearns" for future republican presidents. A number of past republican presidents knew how to run the country. We may not agree on their policy overall, but they were not donald trump.
This is just another hit piece on a prominent Democrat.
still_one
(92,115 posts)take pleasure to misrepresent DEMOCRATS, and the DEMOCRATIC PARTY
George II
(67,782 posts)still_one
(92,115 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,974 posts)Since Nancy Pelosi is a complete And VERY successful Democratic Party badass and Republicans worst nightmare, I thought the heading wording of the OP a trifle unusual, but then...perhaps not
melman
(7,681 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,974 posts)Saw that.
So then you acknowledge the "heading wording of the OP" was not at all unusual. Not even a trifle.
Terrific.
ismnotwasm
(41,974 posts)Actually, no.
I know your whole point here is to try to imply I'm a Republican.
But Axios is not a right wing publication. And this is their headline.
Sometimes you just gotta accept when your shots don't land. The insult just doesn't work.
ismnotwasm
(41,974 posts)What the hell gave you that idea? I find the title manipulative but as I did note YOU didnt write it. Dude, my dude, just...stop. It will be ok.
George II
(67,782 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....is "unusual".
Quite honestly, I don't see the point of this other than to try to make a perfectly valid statement by Pelosi (with words before and after the six words of the headline) into an appearance that she "yearns" for a republican president", implying that she wants one in the future, which is totally incorrect.
What she said, and it's clear when those six words taken out of context are included with the ENTIRE sentence and thought, is that she "yearns" for a republican president NOT like the one we have, but like some that we've had in the past.
It's a shame that Axios had to misrepresent what she said with the sensational six words in their headline and the misrepresentation is posted here on DU.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)both-sides -- Nancy wants Republican presidents so they'll veto the ACA with a public option in the future (the one she got through the House and then by a miracle the compromised one the Senate passed) and all the other progressive policies that are now sitting on McConnell's desk, because she's been a secret Republican this whole time. I KNEW IT! Finally, the truth is revealed. I will never vote again for this corrupt rigged system. Thank you, Axios!"
And suddenly, questioning a source is bad.
jalan48
(13,853 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)jalan48
(13,853 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)It's funny how they concentrate on trying to get rid of the strongest Dems which only helps the Repubs.
They'll gladly take this out of context for further attacks as well. Everyone else knows what she meant, of course.
wiggs
(7,811 posts)anyone of any age would do us better than the most reprehensible, arrogant, limited, corrupt, self-centered person any of us has ever seen or met.
pansypoo53219
(20,968 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)Stupid and narcissistic.
George II
(67,782 posts)I wish people wouldn't have just read the headline and run with it.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)Where is their shared shared commitment to the governance of our country? I could go on but I think that should be more than enough to take care of any yearning.
George II
(67,782 posts)Did you not view the video in the article? Is that what she said?
Autumn
(45,026 posts)Seems like that's what I heard when I watched the video.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)What?
"We're in a fairly critical place. I yearn for other Republican presidents. While we may have disagreed on many points, at least we had a shared commitment to the governance of our country."
"You have to believe in science, and you have to believe in governance."
What's the problem?
Autumn
(45,026 posts)and responded to a response to my comment. Yes I viewed the video and that is what she said. It's my opinion that all republicans are the same and have no interest in the governance of our country. I yearn for republicans to become extinct, not for republicans of the past who got us where we are today. YMMV
47. So you really think that Pelosi today said that she "yearns" for another republican president?
Did you not view the video in the article? Is that what she said?
betsuni
(25,447 posts)That's what Nancy said. This does not apply to the Republican Party in 2020. Duh.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)Yes, that's part of what she said. Duh.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)Autumn
(45,026 posts)you should go and do an OP and break down every sentence she spoke. Someone may be interested in that.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)Autumn
(45,026 posts)betsuni
(25,447 posts)Autumn
(45,026 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....she was speaking in the future, "yearning" for a republican president someday. The Axios headline is very misleading and false!
George II
(67,782 posts)I'll retype one word for emphasis:
"I yearn for other Republican presidents. While we may have disagreed on many points, at least we HAD a shared commitment to the governance of our country."
"HAD" meaning in the past, she's clearly talking about PREVIOUS republican presidents, not yearning for future republican presidents.
That's very clear, and again the headline clearly (and cleverly) misrepresents that. It's easy for a writer to lop off something before and something after a few simple words to totally change the sense of what one actually said. It's done all the time, it's a tactic of the right wing.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)Because that's what I heard her say. If you want to break down everything she said then by all means do an OP breaking it down. Also, I never implied that she wanted future republicans. When the words "Richard Nixon " followed that sentence it was obvious what she was talking about. Myself? I don't miss the past republicans or their governance and sure as the fuck won't yearn for them.
The headline very clearly does not misrepresent what she said. Those were her words. Headlines are typically not a complete speech or interview but nice try.
George II
(67,782 posts)....this is an obvious attempt to misrepresent or mischaracterize what she said, made even more clear by many of the responses in this discussion.
I also NEVER said that the headline wasn't her words, but as I've said a number of times already, and now once again, that's just SIX words taken from what she said, there was a lot before those six words and a lot after that gave everyone interested a much different perspective. She was speaking comparatively about past republican presidents vs. the one we have now.
As I also said, this is yet another attempt to make Nancy Pelosi look bad. It's been done countless times, as it's been done to Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, even Barack Obama and other DEMOCRATS.
I know what headlines are, and unfortunately the more negative they are about Democrats, false as they may be, the more people pounce on them as "gotchas".
Have a wonderful day.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)You may not like that she said it and you may not like the reaction to her words but be honest and don't accuse people of doing what they aren't. You don't think anyone should discuss what Nancy had to say unless the discussion is about every sentence in a 2 minute clip of her interview? It doesn't work that way George.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)"It doesn't work that way George."
Autumn
(45,026 posts)betsuni
(25,447 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....was cleverly omitted from the headline, they just used the "red meat" words.
David Letterman used to do a bit like that once a week, lifting a few words here and a few words there to portray something about a politician. But that was comedy.
As for the rest of what you said, the six words they used was NOT the gist or purpose of that 2-minute clip or the entire statement (btw, it wasn't an interview, it was her daily briefing), but the writer who lifted those six words obviously did the job he intended.
It works that way Autumn.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)I'm sure.
George II
(67,782 posts)....thank you.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....what the writer of that headline did.
It's the ol' go to directive of "do an OP" when someone doesn't agree with what someone says. I don't know how many times I've seen that said to people when they don't like the viewpoint of the person they're responding to.
Autumn
(45,026 posts)PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)...that Im almost ready to drive out to Yorba Linda and dig up Richard Nixon.
Yeehah
(4,574 posts)who can help us maintain the facade of democracy.