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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"For any Neanderthal who has ever feared electing a female president
because what if shes too cranky when shes on her period congratulations. For approximately 1,300 days, you have had a menstruating man in the Oval Office."Having read Mary Trump's offering, this WaPo author examines the most insulting RW stereotypes of women and finds...the bizarre idol they elected President of the United States. (His handlers will won't be able to keep this very popular article secret from him.)
Nobody cares what Roseanne Barr thinks, generally, but a few weeks ago, a one-minute video circulated online that seemed even more bizarre than her usual bizarre: Hear me when I say this, she told her phones camera as she paced around a hotel suite. Trump is, in my opinion, the first woman president of the United States. However youd expected her to end the sentence, it wasnt that. Theories abounded: Was Roseanne trying to court Trumps diminishing female base by saying that Trump was so great for women that he might as well be one? Was it akin to the 1990s declaration that Bill Clinton was the nations first black president?
Donald Trump bears very little in common with any actual woman I know. But, oddly, he has a lot in common with the basest, most unfair stereotypes of femininity. He is ruled by feelings rather than facts. He is fickle, gossipy and easily grossed out. He uses florid language, like beautiful and perfect, and says he and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un fell in love. He deals with adversity like a Mean Girl with a burn book, via insults and freeze-outs. For any Neanderthal who has ever feared electing a female president because what if shes too cranky when shes on her period congratulations. For approximately 1,300 days, you have had a menstruating man in the Oval Office.
Its preposterous, not to mention insulting to women, to say that Trump is womanly. But its nearly as preposterous, not to mention insulting to men, to say that hes manly.
The traditionally accepted positive characteristics of masculinity, i.e. stoicism, modesty and self-discipline, do not in the slightest resemble a person who goes online at midnight to tweet his own approval ratings or whose staff has resorted to creating video clips of cheering supporters to bolster his mood. Self-sacrifice? When provided with a simple and easy way to protect the lives of millions of Americans in a pandemic that has killed 130,000 of us, it took the president four months to wear a mask.
Donald Trump is not our first female president. But were now approaching either the end of his presidency or the midpoint. Roseanne Barrs weird video is as good a reason as any to reflect on the presidents gender. Does he really represent masculinity, or is he.?.?. well, what is he, exactly? ...
What does Donald Trump's funhouse-mirror performance of manhood say about what his supporters see reflected back at them? During the 2016 presidential campaign, the merchandise at Trump events was designed to evoke testosterone. As read a series of hoodies and T-shirts: "Finally, a president with some balls." You could have written this off as a dig at Hillary Clinton, except for the "Finally," which implied that Barack Obama, and probably George W. Bush, were also deficient in this manner. Trump, to millions of voters, represented not just a candidate but a paragon of manliness: the most manly manliness seen in decades. Multiple essays have since been written expressing bafflement over this. ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-weird-masculinity-of-donald-trump/2020/07/15/0dfe3854-c43e-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_hesse-740am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
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(14,668 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)creature...golem...sentient cheeseburger...these are all acceptable...then again, cheeseburgers are usually pretty good.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)albacore
(2,398 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)maxsolomon
(33,316 posts)and was attacked as Sexist and anti-LGBTQ. I wanted to point out the irony of Trump being considered "manly" as commonly understood.
Trump is not "Heteronormative". He has an elaborate, expensive, awful looking, fake pompadour, which he bleaches blonde. He's a germophobe. He doesn't drink. He wears makeup everyday. He has fake teeth.
Yet straight white men, working class men, homophobic men disparaging of male vanity, see him as their avatar.
What do they admire, exactly? He's rich, an asshole, and he bangs models/porn stars. Never mind he'd call their wives and daughters "dogs" or "pigs"; they want to be just like that.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I could understand "beer drinking" (as opposed to non drinker or wine drinker) but I don't get it being applied in this context without context.
maxsolomon
(33,316 posts)Teetotaling is atypical, though it is probably Trump's best quality.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)His constant tweeting is his "drinking problem."
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the style of the mother he always disliked, including her hair , not of the father he reportedly wanted to emulater.
And Monsieur Pompadour's admitted, at disordered braggadocio length, that he doesn't want to wear a mask because it isn't flattering.
I've read a lot of them bought the fictional character he was hired to play on TV. And many are now finally realizing they fell for a fake but will vote for him again.
betsuni
(25,472 posts)Caliman73
(11,735 posts)He is a sociopath, just truly a broken person. He has a limited range of emotions, he has no empathy, he has no moral or ethical center. He was brought up with great cruelty on the part of his father, and it appears that his mother was pretty absent or not very involved in his upbringing.
He really had no models of what even "traditional" gender roles were. He has a blend of toxic masculine traits, but is also stuck in a very childish behavioral style (which explains the use of "fell in love" and flowery language) it isn't a girl thing, it is a childlike thing. Trump has no real concept of what "Love" is. He lives in a fantasy world with bizarre, distorted ideas of what a "man" should be like.
Rosanne for her part is also very ill.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)No one's actually defining him as a woman, though, even partly. The author just points out that some of his behaviors as those of the caricature of dysfunctional womanhood many misogynists enjoy imagining, and the dissonance between those and the toxic masculinity his followers admire, and she wonders what on earth's going on with them.
I assume a lot of these odd behaviors developed from the inability to feel normal emotions, not helped by his yooge need for yooge attention and the money to get it. Sociopathic types apparently learn to copy others to appear normal, but as an adult he also wouldn't have gotten the typical feedback and molding those unbuffered by great wealth do.
Just watched video of him warning that Democrats planned to use the evil federal bureaucracy to abolish our beautiful suburbs -- and lower property values. A mix of knowing a couple of buttons to push because they've worked reliably in the past with inability to understand how normal people think (that excludes his loyalists) and thus foresee what won't work.
He won't close his mouth, so every day brings another avalanche of surprising and frightening feedback.