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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:22 PM Jul 2020

"For any Neanderthal who has ever feared electing a female president

because what if she’s too cranky when she’s on her period — congratulations. For approximately 1,300 days, you have had a menstruating man in the Oval Office."

Having read Mary Trump's offering, this WaPo author examines the most insulting RW stereotypes of women and finds...the bizarre idol they elected President of the United States. (His handlers will won't be able to keep this very popular article secret from him.)

The weird masculinity of Donald Trump

Nobody cares what Roseanne Barr thinks, generally, but a few weeks ago, a one-minute video circulated online that seemed even more bizarre than her usual bizarre: “Hear me when I say this,” she told her phone’s camera as she paced around a hotel suite. “Trump is, in my opinion, the first woman president of the United States.” However you’d expected her to end the sentence, it wasn’t that. Theories abounded: Was Roseanne trying to court Trump’s diminishing female base by saying that Trump was so great for women that he might as well be one? Was it akin to the 1990s declaration that Bill Clinton was the nation’s first black president?

Donald Trump bears very little in common with any actual woman I know. But, oddly, he has a lot in common with the basest, most unfair stereotypes of femininity. He is ruled by feelings rather than facts. He is fickle, gossipy and easily grossed out. He uses florid language, like “beautiful” and “perfect,” and says he and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un “fell in love.” He deals with adversity like a Mean Girl with a burn book, via insults and freeze-outs. For any Neanderthal who has ever feared electing a female president because what if she’s too cranky when she’s on her period — congratulations. For approximately 1,300 days, you have had a menstruating man in the Oval Office.

It’s preposterous, not to mention insulting to women, to say that Trump is womanly. But it’s nearly as preposterous, not to mention insulting to men, to say that he’s manly.

The traditionally accepted positive characteristics of masculinity, i.e. stoicism, modesty and self-discipline, do not in the slightest resemble a person who goes online at midnight to tweet his own approval ratings or whose staff has resorted to creating video clips of cheering supporters to bolster his mood. Self-sacrifice? When provided with a simple and easy way to protect the lives of millions of Americans in a pandemic that has killed 130,000 of us, it took the president four months to wear a mask.

Donald Trump is not our first female president. But we’re now approaching either the end of his presidency or the midpoint. Roseanne Barr’s weird video is as good a reason as any to reflect on the president’s gender. Does he really represent masculinity, or is he.?.?. well, what is he, exactly? ...

What does Donald Trump's funhouse-mirror performance of manhood say about what his supporters see reflected back at them? During the 2016 presidential campaign, the merchandise at Trump events was designed to evoke testosterone. As read a series of hoodies and T-shirts: "Finally, a president with some balls." You could have written this off as a dig at Hillary Clinton, except for the "Finally," which implied that Barack Obama, and probably George W. Bush, were also deficient in this manner. Trump, to millions of voters, represented not just a candidate but a paragon of manliness: the most manly manliness seen in decades. Multiple essays have since been written expressing bafflement over this. ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-weird-masculinity-of-donald-trump/2020/07/15/0dfe3854-c43e-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_hesse-740am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
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"For any Neanderthal who has ever feared electing a female president (Original Post) Hortensis Jul 2020 OP
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2020 #1
I mean, calling him human is insulting qazplm135 Jul 2020 #2
Buttery Males !!!! uponit7771 Jul 2020 #3
K&R! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #4
Kick...nt albacore Jul 2020 #5
K&R demigoddess Jul 2020 #6
I tried to address this on DU in 2016 maxsolomon Jul 2020 #7
What does drinking have to do with anything? CTyankee Jul 2020 #9
OK, Beer drinking then. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #11
As a nondrinker, I think we'd be better off if he had a nice glass of Chardonney with his dinner. CTyankee Jul 2020 #13
I almost put a disclaimer. Monsieur Pompadour copies Hortensis Jul 2020 #10
K&R betsuni Jul 2020 #8
You can't really define Trump in terms of gender. He simply is a broken approximation of a person. Caliman73 Jul 2020 #12
Yes, the article ends describing him as a frightened boy. Hortensis Jul 2020 #14

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
2. I mean, calling him human is insulting
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

creature...golem...sentient cheeseburger...these are all acceptable...then again, cheeseburgers are usually pretty good.

maxsolomon

(33,316 posts)
7. I tried to address this on DU in 2016
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jul 2020

and was attacked as Sexist and anti-LGBTQ. I wanted to point out the irony of Trump being considered "manly" as commonly understood.

Trump is not "Heteronormative". He has an elaborate, expensive, awful looking, fake pompadour, which he bleaches blonde. He's a germophobe. He doesn't drink. He wears makeup everyday. He has fake teeth.

Yet straight white men, working class men, homophobic men disparaging of male vanity, see him as their avatar.

What do they admire, exactly? He's rich, an asshole, and he bangs models/porn stars. Never mind he'd call their wives and daughters "dogs" or "pigs"; they want to be just like that.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
9. What does drinking have to do with anything?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jul 2020

I could understand "beer drinking" (as opposed to non drinker or wine drinker) but I don't get it being applied in this context without context.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
13. As a nondrinker, I think we'd be better off if he had a nice glass of Chardonney with his dinner.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:35 PM
Jul 2020

His constant tweeting is his "drinking problem."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. I almost put a disclaimer. Monsieur Pompadour copies
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jul 2020

the style of the mother he always disliked, including her hair , not of the father he reportedly wanted to emulater.

And Monsieur Pompadour's admitted, at disordered braggadocio length, that he doesn't want to wear a mask because it isn't flattering.

I've read a lot of them bought the fictional character he was hired to play on TV. And many are now finally realizing they fell for a fake but will vote for him again.

Caliman73

(11,735 posts)
12. You can't really define Trump in terms of gender. He simply is a broken approximation of a person.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jul 2020

He is a sociopath, just truly a broken person. He has a limited range of emotions, he has no empathy, he has no moral or ethical center. He was brought up with great cruelty on the part of his father, and it appears that his mother was pretty absent or not very involved in his upbringing.

He really had no models of what even "traditional" gender roles were. He has a blend of toxic masculine traits, but is also stuck in a very childish behavioral style (which explains the use of "fell in love" and flowery language) it isn't a girl thing, it is a childlike thing. Trump has no real concept of what "Love" is. He lives in a fantasy world with bizarre, distorted ideas of what a "man" should be like.

Rosanne for her part is also very ill.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Yes, the article ends describing him as a frightened boy.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 06:22 AM
Jul 2020

No one's actually defining him as a woman, though, even partly. The author just points out that some of his behaviors as those of the caricature of dysfunctional womanhood many misogynists enjoy imagining, and the dissonance between those and the toxic masculinity his followers admire, and she wonders what on earth's going on with them.

I assume a lot of these odd behaviors developed from the inability to feel normal emotions, not helped by his yooge need for yooge attention and the money to get it. Sociopathic types apparently learn to copy others to appear normal, but as an adult he also wouldn't have gotten the typical feedback and molding those unbuffered by great wealth do.

Just watched video of him warning that Democrats planned to use the evil federal bureaucracy to abolish our beautiful suburbs -- and lower property values. A mix of knowing a couple of buttons to push because they've worked reliably in the past with inability to understand how normal people think (that excludes his loyalists) and thus foresee what won't work.

He won't close his mouth, so every day brings another avalanche of surprising and frightening feedback.

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