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Remember this. At the appointed hour, even if the election results are delayed in recounts or whatev (Original Post) Grasswire2 Jul 2020 OP
Is that for real? soothsayer Jul 2020 #1
NO... hlthe2b Jul 2020 #2
Ha dammit soothsayer Jul 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jul 2020 #10
States certify prior to convening of EC hlthe2b Jul 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jul 2020 #14
THis has occurred with Hawaii in 1961 wherein two slates of electors were presented hlthe2b Jul 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author soothsayer Jul 2020 #3
So Would The Current pResident Still Be In Charge?.... global1 Jul 2020 #5
Technically leftieNanner Jul 2020 #8
In the event no candidate wins an absolute majority in the EC, it goes to House (Contingent Election hlthe2b Jul 2020 #6
On January 20th at noon Thunderbeast Jul 2020 #7
that is it nt Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #13
No - if that were possible we wouldn't have ended up with George W. Bush as President csziggy Jul 2020 #9

Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

hlthe2b

(102,217 posts)
11. States certify prior to convening of EC
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jul 2020

There is a deadline for EC to meet. Your scenario (sans an emergency court determination or provisional slate of electors nominated) is highly unlikely and in fact has been dealt with at least once previously (not counting Bush v Gore). Thus, EC meets and my scenario plays out. See my other post below for more detail.

Response to hlthe2b (Reply #11)

hlthe2b

(102,217 posts)
12. THis has occurred with Hawaii in 1961 wherein two slates of electors were presented
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 05:51 PM
Jul 2020

when an in-process recount suggested that Kennedy had actually won over Nixon. It fell to the EC to reconcile:

Counting Electoral Votes: An Overview of Procedures at the Joint Session Congress:

There appears only to have been one example, in 1961, when the governor of the state of Hawaii first certified the electors of Vice President Richard M. Nixon as having been appointed, and then, due to a subsequent recount which determined that Senator John F. Kennedy had won the Hawaii vote, certified Senator Kennedy as the winner. Both slates of electors had met on the prescribed day in December, cast their votes for President and Vice President, and transmitted them according to the federal statute. This was the case even though the recount was apparently not completed until a later date, that is, not until December 28.20The presiding officer, that is, the President of the Senate, Vice President Nixon, suggested “without the intent of establishing a precedent” that the latter and more recent certification of Senator Kennedy be accepted so as “not to delay the further count of electoral votes.” This was agreed to by unanimous consent.



https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf

Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

hlthe2b

(102,217 posts)
6. In the event no candidate wins an absolute majority in the EC, it goes to House (Contingent Election
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 05:22 PM
Jul 2020

which would happen BEFORE inauguration day, so no, there would be no vacancy and Pelosi would not become President.

In the United States, a contingent election is the procedure used in presidential elections in the case where no candidate wins an absolute majority of votes in the Electoral College, the constitutional mechanism for electing the president and the vice president of the United States. A contingent election for the president is decided by a vote of the United States House of Representatives, and the contingent election for the vice president is decided by a vote of the United States Senate. The contingent election procedure, along with the other parts of the presidential election process, was first established in Article Two, Section 1, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, and then modified by the 12th Amendment in 1804.

Contingent elections are extremely rare, having occurred only three times in American history, all in the early 1800s. In 1800, Thomas Jefferson was pitted against his own vice-presidential nominee in a contingent election due to problems with the original electoral procedure. In 1824, the presence of four candidates split the Electoral College, and Andrew Jackson lost the contingent election to John Quincy Adams despite winning a plurality of both the popular and electoral vote. In 1836, faithless electors in Virginia refused to vote for Martin Van Buren's vice-presidential nominee Richard Mentor Johnson, denying him a majority of the electoral vote and forcing the Senate to elect him in a contingent election.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
7. On January 20th at noon
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 05:26 PM
Jul 2020

The duly elected President Elect will become President. If the votes in the Electoral College do not provide 270 votes for one candidate due to challenges, the process may be decided by the House of Representatives with each state granted one vote. If that process fails to elect a President, the Speaker of the House (as determined at the beginning of the new Congress in early January becomes Acting President until election issues are resolved.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. No - if that were possible we wouldn't have ended up with George W. Bush as President
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jul 2020

The delay in recounts is why the GOP sued to STOP the recounts and appealed to SCOTUS to appoint GWB President. Part of the decision said, " The counting of votes that are of questionable legality does in my view threaten irreparable harm to petitioner Bush, and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election."

Instead they caused irreparable harm to the USA and to our election system.

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