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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember this. At the appointed hour, even if the election results are delayed in recounts or whatev
.....at that appointed hour in January, Nancy Pelosi will be sworn in as president until the election is resolved.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)
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hlthe2b
(102,217 posts)There is a deadline for EC to meet. Your scenario (sans an emergency court determination or provisional slate of electors nominated) is highly unlikely and in fact has been dealt with at least once previously (not counting Bush v Gore). Thus, EC meets and my scenario plays out. See my other post below for more detail.
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hlthe2b
(102,217 posts)when an in-process recount suggested that Kennedy had actually won over Nixon. It fell to the EC to reconcile:
There appears only to have been one example, in 1961, when the governor of the state of Hawaii first certified the electors of Vice President Richard M. Nixon as having been appointed, and then, due to a subsequent recount which determined that Senator John F. Kennedy had won the Hawaii vote, certified Senator Kennedy as the winner. Both slates of electors had met on the prescribed day in December, cast their votes for President and Vice President, and transmitted them according to the federal statute. This was the case even though the recount was apparently not completed until a later date, that is, not until December 28.20The presiding officer, that is, the President of the Senate, Vice President Nixon, suggested without the intent of establishing a precedent that the latter and more recent certification of Senator Kennedy be accepted so as not to delay the further count of electoral votes. This was agreed to by unanimous consent.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL32717.pdf
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global1
(25,241 posts)Trump?
leftieNanner
(15,081 posts)His term ends on January 20, 2021. So he wouldn't be President any more.
hlthe2b
(102,217 posts)which would happen BEFORE inauguration day, so no, there would be no vacancy and Pelosi would not become President.
Contingent elections are extremely rare, having occurred only three times in American history, all in the early 1800s. In 1800, Thomas Jefferson was pitted against his own vice-presidential nominee in a contingent election due to problems with the original electoral procedure. In 1824, the presence of four candidates split the Electoral College, and Andrew Jackson lost the contingent election to John Quincy Adams despite winning a plurality of both the popular and electoral vote. In 1836, faithless electors in Virginia refused to vote for Martin Van Buren's vice-presidential nominee Richard Mentor Johnson, denying him a majority of the electoral vote and forcing the Senate to elect him in a contingent election.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)The duly elected President Elect will become President. If the votes in the Electoral College do not provide 270 votes for one candidate due to challenges, the process may be decided by the House of Representatives with each state granted one vote. If that process fails to elect a President, the Speaker of the House (as determined at the beginning of the new Congress in early January becomes Acting President until election issues are resolved.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)The delay in recounts is why the GOP sued to STOP the recounts and appealed to SCOTUS to appoint GWB President. Part of the decision said, " The counting of votes that are of questionable legality does in my view threaten irreparable harm to petitioner Bush, and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election."
Instead they caused irreparable harm to the USA and to our election system.