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Mark Gamba
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Despot Trump has sent federal police to a city without the invitation from that city's Mayor nor that state's Governor. According to many reports by serious news agencies: "Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off." Seriously people??? Are we all so young we forget what happened in Germany, or Argentina or dozens of other countries under the leadership of a despot? This is America, and we are allowing this to occur on our streets. I guarantee that in every one of those countries there was a "legitimate reason" being touted. A line needs to be drawn and needs to be drawn right now. That line will not be one made up of lawyers. Despot Trump couldn't care less about the law, to him it is something to be gotten around. If I were Governor right now, some staffer would be working really hard to talk me out of calling up the Oregon National Guard and having them surround the protests FACING OUT- there to protect the protesters from the minions of the despot. How bad will we allow This to get? The very thing that the right wingers fear the most is happening, it's just not happening to them. Remember - the rule of law only protects you if the person with the physical power over you also believes in the rule of law. Despot Trump does not.
Nevilledog
(51,094 posts)dchill
(38,484 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)guard would supersede the Governor's orders.
They would be put under the Unified military command of the Dept of Defense and CiC.
I believe at that time they would order the troops to turn around.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)marybourg
(12,631 posts)I think if it were, the families of those taken would be reporting them missing to the police and to the world on social media.
If this is true, all of us, sick, well, young, old, must take to the streets.
I dont want to ever hear: First they came for the protesters . . .
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)There's video.
marybourg
(12,631 posts)AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,850 posts)Here is my search results:
https://www.ask.com/web?o=0&l=dir&qo=serpSearchTopBox&q=Federal+troops+in+Portland+Oregon
Lots of links at above.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Right off.
Nevilledog
(51,094 posts)All along most of us have relied upon the simple idea that American forces wouldn't turn against Americans. This paramilitary Fed force seems to have no problem terrifying civilians.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)marlakay
(11,457 posts)In their bitterness that they are the minority. I don't read the twitter account but I liked her on FB so I know what's happening. They are always saying the cruelest meanest things to her.
I hope she has good security.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)dobleremolque
(491 posts)KPN
(15,643 posts)martial law down the road. Oregonians will push back. I have no doubt.
KPN
(15,643 posts)about to here in Oregon where weve been somewhat insulated from the Reich wing by our sea of blue. Im optimistic when it comes to tRump vs Oregonians.
marlakay
(11,457 posts)Of supporters.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Hope hes headed for bigger things. He may try again for Congress in 2022.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)...with a really interesting background.
calimary
(81,238 posts)I think, for National Geographic. Met him several times at local events. Would like very much to see him in Congress instead of Kurt Schrader - who's a fucking DINO. Won't do anything that his republi-CON friends don't like.
As someone who came from Ted Lieu territory, it's a real buzz kill, gotta say. In this case, we didn't move up. We moved down.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)0rganism
(23,945 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Using the government on those who refuse to allow him to bully them, so he does things to terrorize them , and hurt them for intimidation of them and others.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)They have no identification, no jurisdiction, and are operating illegally and kidnapping citizens.
The local law enforcement must protect the citizens.